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Just a point \note here. You're only allowed to sweep opposing rocks behind the T. Kennedy just swept a McEwen rock that was above the T. I don't if it made a difference but he broke that rule

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^ YES HE DID - it was very flagrant. He never apologized.
I think Kennedy has played the game long enough to know the rules by now - so that was just trying to cheat, plain and simple. Right out of the Homan book of 'sportsmanship'. It was absolute bush league from him.

People say that Kennedy is a good team player, etc. He may well be a good team player, but this is not the first time I've seen questionable/disrespectful behaviour from him.
There's no excuse for him sweeping an opposing rock very clearly above the T-line.

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That was probably as well curled a game as I've ever seen at a Brier !!

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Post the clip. Never ever saw Kennedy as you say as a "cheater"

You can sweep at the line and as it reaches the line or across the line.
I side with Kennedy until proof is provided.

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'Kennedy just swept a McEwen rock that was above the T.' misty1

'YES HE DID - it was very flagrant.' On The Nose

And what did the crack TSN team of Cathy, Russ and Vic have to say about that curling violation?

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Gallant will sink Team Bottcher.

Gushue covered up for his inconsistency.

Won't happen on this team.

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Post the clip. Never ever saw Kennedy as you say as a "cheater"

You can sweep at the line and as it reaches the line or across the line.
I side with Kennedy until proof is provided.

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Blew it.

How long before Hebert and Kennedy figure out Gallant and Bottcher aren't clutch performers?

This team can't last long.

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I'm very happy to see dunstone in the final. Was dreading another bottcher/gushue match which. After bottcher v.s koe yields the dullest match ups on tour. We have a chance fir a first time winner. Hopefully it'll happen

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I'm very happy to see dunstone in the final. Was dreading another bottcher/gushue match which. After bottcher v.s koe yields the dullest match ups on tour. We have a chance fir a first time winner. Hopefully it'll happen

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Normally I have a preference on who I want to see win the brier but in this case, I will be happy with either team. Last night’s game was fun to watch so I am hoping for another great game tonight.

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I'm aware of the rule.
I guess it's up to you to find the clip - if any clips exist - because I already saw it live.

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Yesterday, he was in Darren's way as he was sweeping in the House. Marc was sweeping and blocking Darren from sweeping. They didn't make a big deal about it - I guess they decided that it wasn't deliberate.

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But with today's sweeping above the T-line, one wonders...

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There was also the time he mocked Gushue's injury a few years ago - that wasn't received very well by curling fans (I do have a clip of that one below)...
Questionable behaviours from Kennedy are adding up...
https://twitter.com/AnthonyGermain/...7962624?lang=en [/B]

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Happy that it’s MB vs Canada for the title, will be fine with either winning.

Side note; whoever is writing the articles on here really needs to do some better research. The last skip other than Koe, Bottcher or Gushue to win was not in 2013, it was in 2015, with Pat Simmons leading the former Koe rink to gold. Also, Gushue already has four titles so this would not tie anything.

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I thought Dunstone handled his first final pretty well outside of the bad call around the corner in 9 but his middle guys left some shots out there and Nichols was Nichols. Was hoping for a new name out there but Goo just adds to his HOF resume.

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Cream came to the top again. Nichols is one heck of a gamer.

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That was a fun game to watch.

It’s remarkable that Gushue has won 5 Briers in 6 years.

Dunstone team played well. They’ll be back.

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That's not how evidence works.

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You're alleging something, you provide the evidence. Do you even know the end & shot?

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I recall that, I also recall Marc apologizing. It's far from the first time on guy behind the line has accidentally impeded someone on the the other team.

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You wonder, no one else does.

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He wasn't expecting to be televised, he was being goofy with his teammates in an attempt to stay loose before the game.

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Have you never goofed on in a way you later regretted? It's hardly something to get worked up about.

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Haha....that little man from manitoba lost .....

Could you imagine if that completely unmarketable team actually won?

King Gushue rules and saved curling for 1 more year.

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Some observations...

Dunstone's hit & roll in the 8th was just about perfect. We'll never know if it would have rolled right on top of the Canada rock with a bit more sweeping.

B.J.'s and Dunstone's freezes in the 10th were also almost perfect. Unfortunately for them, they left a 4 or 5 inch gap, and Nicholls and Gushue picked both of them out with surgical precision - great shots (but it helps to have great ice to make those great shots - they'd be considerably more difficult to make on typical curling club ice).

Dunstone has matured considerably. He went through the week very solidly with the best record, and came through in the clutch many times .

It was nice to see the Harnden brothers embracing each other after the Final, and then the two of them with their dad.

Gushue's team was not looking good 1/3 of the way through the week. They looked disjointed and out of sync, just barely getting by teams that they should have beaten easily. At that point, it was difficult to picture them in the Final, let alone winning it.

Hebert appeared visually to have dropped some weight this year. I don't know if that's true or not - but it looked that way to my eye.

It'll be interesting to see what happens with that Kevin Koe team. Will they make any changes?

Tough luck for Quebec, who started the week terribly, but then got their bearings and missed a tiebreaker by a whisker.

Watch out for Nova Scotia in the Brier and the Scotties over the next 5 years - they impressed in both.

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I know far less about curling than others posting here. From my simple perspective though, I would say (1) the 1-2 game, 2-3 and Championship games were tremendous. All three games decided were on the last rock in the 10th. So many great shots that outnumber any muscues. (2) For the casual viewer of the game, the Brier playoffs were competitive and generated interest, far more than any promo or hype could deliver. (3) The 8 on the ice tonight are not millionaire athletes, but deserve respect as they play a game they love, as a team, with pride and sportsmanship. Gushue and Co are a class act. Dunstone will be upset but should not hang his head. He made one of the best Canadian curlers ever draw the button to win his record 5th Brier. Dunstone will be back and have his name on the trophy soon himself. (4) Really enjoyed the broadcast. Do not retire just yet Vic. (5) Promoting the game and diversity are laudable goals, but too many teams, or too many teams without a realistic chance if winning. 2 teams for the 4 Atlantic Provinces. 1 team for the 3 Territories. This cuts 4. You could add 2 more Wild Cards (giving you 5 top tier teams) and have 16 teams, not 18.

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Another wholly impressive Brier from Gushue. It’s amazing to think that literally 7 years ago he had 0 and was always half step behind. 5 titles in 7 years is historic.

A couple other notes:

These top teams are so good that these games often are following similar patterns. So close, and any multiple point score is rare. Not a criticism, though them being so good and with consistent ice, and there’s less room for volatility in the games.

Dunstone established himself as a top team this week. Previously he was the good up and comer who was happy to make the playoffs. Now he’s a legitimate contender at these.

It’s really a clear top 3 in Canada for men and then a fairly big gap, and I don’t see that changing any time soon.

Good crowds in London! Kamloops was substandard.

Cathy was good in the big booth! She decisive with her comments.

It’s funny to include Ferbey as a “skip” on those all time lists. A pretty major factor is actually throwing last stones.

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I was really hoping for a new champion

It's clear that the men and women in canada have a very clear division between the top few and the fest and it's not particularly close

Men breaks diwn as the big 4 of gushue, koe , bottcher and then I would add dunstone to that.

Mcewen, Epping, flasch and carruthers are together as the chasing group. They're closest to them but wouldn't bet on either to beat all or more than 1 if the above in the same event.

Then there's a big drop down to everyone else. Watch manuel, horgan, sturmay,gauthier and asselin over the few years to see if they can catch up. They have the most potential of the younger teams put there right now

The women are even more divided. There's the big 3 of Jones, Homan and einarson. The only teams Close to them right now are lawes and mccarville

Then there's a massive gap down to everyone else . Grandy , black and Ackland have potential but they're not at that level yet.

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The same is true world wide. Edin and Mouat are the top class with the Canadian top tier, everyone else behind. Some of the next class down can pull off a big win (Retournaz, the Swiss, the Americans) but not consistently. The women's side--more volatility, more international parity. Always seems to be the case.

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The same is true world wide. Edin and Mouat are the top class with the Canadian top tier, everyone else behind. Some of the next class down can pull off a big win (Retournaz, the Swiss, the Americans) but not consistently. The women's side--more volatility, more international parity. Always seems to be the case.

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And once again a Cminus to TSN for their broadcast, the EXACT SAME format and graphics they have been using for 20+ years.
And why on earth do you have an interview with Stoughton and a bit on the Harnden brothers WHILE the game was going on? And not even showing the action while they talked? Do them before or at the 5th end break or instead of those repetitive best shots of the week fillers.
Watch 10 pin bowling for a couple minutes on US TV. You will see graphics and computer analytics that really explain rotation and path and speed that would easily be adaptable to curling but TSN doesn't want to spend a dime. SN doesn't want to do it either. Both take their curling audience for granted and both are missing a chance to educate and attract fans and grow the game.

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