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From what I'm hearing there doesn't seem to be much of a push from the WCF side to go to 8 ends and that's ok too. There's nothing wrong with doing 10 ends in Provincials, Brier, Scotties, etc.

All I'm suggesting is that we consider 8 ends for early qualification events where the facilities aren't designed to hold up for 12-14 ends. (2-3 ends of practice, 10 ends of game plus possible extra end).

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Just a thought, why do we need 3 announcers for curling. Every other sport seems to have 2. Do we really need to replace Linda now? Wondering if they should be looking for a more long term replacement for Vic and go with 2 once he retires?

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Just a thought, why do we need 3 announcers for curling. Every other sport seems to have 2. Do we really need to replace Linda now? Wondering if they should be looking for a more long term replacement for Vic and go with 2 once he retires?

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Just a thought, why do we need 3 announcers for curling. Every other sport seems to have 2. Do we really need to replace Linda now? Wondering if they should be looking for a more long term replacement for Vic and go with 2 once he retires?

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I really like the three manned booth. I also think that Cheryl is doing an excellent job. One thing she doesn't do is constantly try to one up the other commentators with knowledge. Also, she doesn't laugh and giggle like a ten year old schoolgirl. I hope TSN retains Cheryl in the three manned booth situation. She's doing an excellent job.

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I really like the three manned booth. I also think that Cheryl is doing an excellent job. One thing she doesn't do is constantly try to one up the other commentators with knowledge. Also, she doesn't laugh and giggle like a ten year old schoolgirl. I hope TSN retains Cheryl in the three manned booth situation. She's doing an excellent job.

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However...the road to a National championship should be paved with similar scenarios and experiences. The purpose of playing in a Provincial event is to prepare the ultimate winner for the next level...including the same game parameters and conditions. It follows that to prepare teams for the Provincial championship they should have like experiences and game rules at the zones and regionals! A ten-end game is a whole different kind of animal from an eight ender!

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I have been reading at length the comments regarding ice, rocks etc and I finally had to chime in. I've played in both Ontario and Manitoba at a high level.

Let me remind those in Ontario how good you have it. The last 4 berths into Manitoba are being given through the good old, MCA Bonspiel, now called the Manitoba Open. Now it's tamed down from previous years,only 256 teams for those 4 spots. Now granted, there are some club teams etc but here is what you deal with outside of that. You also have to deal with prior qualified teams going in with the potential of knocking out unqualified teams, sort of like allowing Epping, Kean etc the free chance to come in and take out Middaugh, Howard with absolutely nothing to lose.

You move from club to club, with no idea what you are facing, you are playing with unknown rocks and you have no practice time before each game. Top that off with a draw that could be slanted in such a way that you need to go through quality team after quality team and wow, who wouldn't want to try and qualify!!

I remember playing a number of years ago, there was dripping all over the ice and the first draw was 17 seconds and moved to a speedy 21 by games end, with ice falling to the boards one way. Every curler in Manitoba has 2 dozen stories like this, its been a crapshoot as long as there has been ice.

So, would I take consistent ice that didn't curl much, have time to practice before the event (if you choose) and before your game on each sheet and sign me up.

Jus thought I would throw out another perspective on each province's challenges. You are not alone in your challenges IMHO

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No, Ontario is far from alone.
This past weekend, at the Saskatchewan Southerns (level leading to provincials), 3 of the 4 sheets played on had dramatic falls (>1' negative ice needed on the one turn). The speed also varied extremely from path to path. Add to this, it was warm outside, which led to the temperature warming up in the rink, and games also seeing a number of picks.
Unlike Ontario where teams who fail to make it out of their region can still take the Challenge route to provincials, in SK, the teams are done if they get eliminated along the road.

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Frankly 8 end games with the 5-rock rule should be the norm for everything - zones to worlds. The ice will hold up better, game should be slightly more aggressive and it plays better into our modern day, busier lifestyle.

Hell, a few of the clubs in my area are switching to 6-end games for the social/rec leagues to accommodate for everyone's busy lifestyle. Look at golf - many studies are saying that in 5 years the 12-hole golf course will reign supreme. I think once it's switched, we'll look back on 10 end games and laugh about how long curling games used to be much like we do for the old 12 and 14 end games.

In regards to poor ice conditions: Wouldn't the simplest solution simply be to only hold the events at clubs with confirmed good ice conditions? I've got to think that any club curler can quickly list off the top of their head which clubs have good ice in their area, and which have bad ice. Have the OCA pay the "good ice" club some sort of rental fee (and of course the natural increase in food and beverage sales) and just be done with it.

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Our first day schedule is decided:

2pm: Team Kean vs Team Dow
7pm: Team Squires vs Team Balsdon

Join us for the games from the 2015 Tankard here: https://games.curlinggeek.com/broadcast/50

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Is Glen Howard team in the provincial playdowns to go to Briar

seems to be two tankards. recharge with Milk tankard. and ontario tankard

whats the diff... thx

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Your confusion is natural: Ontario has three events named 'Tankard'. The one you care about is the "Recharge with Milk Tankard - Ontario Men's Curling Championship", running all this week. Pretty much any discussion of 'Tankard' in Ontario refers to this event: an 11 team playdown to decide our brier representative.

Website: http://www.ingersollcurlingclub.ca/2015-tankard

Glenn Howard was eliminated. His son Scott is playing for Team Kean and still has a shot at the brier.

The other two tankards are amateur events, 'Silver Tankard' and 'Women's Tankard': both are 8 players-per-team events contested inside the province. Tons of fun, but no one talks about them outside the event.

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What happen to Wayne Middaugh? I though he was skipping the Corner rink?

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What happen to Wayne Middaugh? I though he was skipping the Corner rink?

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Middaugh went to the Super Bowl. He'll be back in lineup when he's back.

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We do not currently have a geek lined up for the 2pm Tuesday draw. If you'll be in Ingersoll tomorrow and want to give it a try, send me a note at geek@curlinggeek.com

You'll need either a laptop or an iPad.

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Will Middaugh be in the lineup later this week?

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Wow! Kean looking like a giant so far. Could we see one of Epping or Balsdon miss out on the playoffs???

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Thank goodness the curling is good because the commentary is dreadfully boring. Compared to the Scotties play by play commentary last week in Penetanguishene, The Tankard is the cure for insomnia.

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Wow! Kean looking like a giant so far. Could we see one of Epping or Balsdon miss out on the playoffs???

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After a missed day, we're back in Ingersoll. Tune in at 7pm on Thursday to follow Epping v. Squires:

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Spoke too soon, not a good day to say the least. Now I wish we could see both games tomorrow to check out the body language and team dynamics.

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i dont know what it is but most of the time kean and epping play its not even close. its a blowout one way. I may really like both but i almost have to hope the final doesnt involve them because then we will, if history indicates get stuck with some one sided demoliton job thats over in 6 or 7 ends.

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Most people favored Epping coming into the event but Kean has looked the best all week. Both these teams have great talent but in terms of "potential" I like Kean more, especially when it comes to defending a lead. Mathers and Camm can throw absolute rockets. Mathers in particular looks like he could come close to EJ's fastball.... If this team puts it all together they could be something really really good, perhaps great. There were some chemistry issues earlier in the year but they seem to be gelling better at the moment. It's all between the ears with this young team.

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