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11-24-15 07:37PM |
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Phil_D
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Sweden's Paulina Stein (lead) injured her ankle yesterday and won't be playing for the rest of the tournament. Their alternate (Anna Huhta) has been playing in her place and doing fairly well so far.
Just thought I'd share in case anyone was interested.
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11-24-15 07:52PM |
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misty1
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quote: Originally posted by Phil_D
Sweden's Paulina Stein (lead) injured her ankle yesterday and won't be playing for the rest of the tournament. Their alternate (Anna Huhta) has been playing in her place and doing fairly well so far.
Just thought I'd share in case anyone was interested.
Thanks for the news.
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11-24-15 07:52PM |
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I was surprised to see a) a different team from the Czech Republic, rather than Jiri Snitl, and b) no representative from France on the men's side (even in the B division). Does anyone know how the CZ playdowns work, and also what is up with France men's curling?
p.s. Misty and ML, thanks for making up and keeping it real.
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11-24-15 07:57PM |
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misty1
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quote: Originally posted by jzwanzig
I was surprised to see a) a different team from the Czech Republic, rather than Jiri Snitl, and b) no representative from France on the men's side (even in the B division). Does anyone know how the CZ playdowns work, and also what is up with France men's curling?
p.s. Misty and ML, thanks for making up and keeping it real.
France did have a team. there is also a C division of teams in europe and they compete in a tournament before the european championship starts. The top 2 teams in this C division get promoted up to the B division. France sent a team sent skipped by wilfrid coulot, however they lost in the C division playoffs and so missed the championship
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11-24-15 08:02PM |
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quote: Originally posted by misty1
France did have a team. there is also a C division of teams in europe and they compete in a tournament before the european championship starts. The top 2 teams in this C division get promoted up to the B division. France sent a team sent skipped by wilfrid coulot, however they lost in the C division playoffs and so missed the championship
Ah, too bad. I always liked watching Tony Angiboust play, along with Thomas Dufour--very French, totally calm and detached.
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11-24-15 08:05PM |
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quote: Originally posted by jzwanzig
Ah, too bad. I always liked watching Tony Angiboust play, along with Thomas Dufour--very French, totally calm and detached.
yeah, they were always a team you could never underestimate. Sadly it seems that with them gone french curling has no one to take their place. curling isnt very popular in france, probably right down there at the bottom. Its sad but things are not in a good place and i dont think there is any interest in getting better
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11-24-15 09:06PM |
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The weird thing was that France had a men's team in the B division last year, but for some reason no team played so they just lost all their games by default. I don't know what the story was there.
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11-24-15 09:39PM |
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Phil_D
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quote: Originally posted by peteski
The weird thing was that France had a men's team in the B division last year, but for some reason no team played so they just lost all their games by default. I don't know what the story was there.
I don't know either but it was totally last-minute if I recall correctly.
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11-25-15 08:01AM |
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Huge win for scotland this morning on the mens side and suddenly they are right back in it. at this point really no mens teams have been eliminated so far which is ridiculous
norway is running away with this . at this point they are going 11-0
the reigning womens champions of the world are on the verge of being eliminated though.
unless they can come back and beat scotland they will need denmark to come back and beat finland. If finland holds on and beats denmark that effectively knocks them out of playoff contention. at 4 losses they would need estonia to beat finland tonight and that doesnt seem likely. they would also need to beat sweden.
either way it doesnt look like switzerland are medaling here
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11-25-15 08:36AM |
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surprise of the event is finland. can they win a medal?
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11-25-15 08:41AM |
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sweden/russia going an extra..even though sweden was up by 3
and switzerland is almost eliminated from playoff contention. they need an estonian win tonight and to beat sweden. they still have playoff aspirations but they are dim.
i got to say though that its nice to see that finland seems to be back in a good place in curling in both ladies and mens.
big win for germany too. with hungary last they have a good shot at finishing 7th and getting to worlds clear and good while norway will play the world group playoff...unless they upset scotland
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11-25-15 08:55AM |
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oh boy is this looking bad for sweden. no draw on the in turn side and sidorova can block off the out turn. she might have a double down the middle .there might also be some kind of hack weight shot on the inturn. doesnt look like anna can block both
difficult to see how sweden scores here
maybe a triple on the reds. long yellow tap..hack weight double
she's going with the tap. this might eliminate tiebreakers and set the 4 teams clear unless estonia can manage the huge upset over finland tonight
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11-25-15 08:58AM |
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to much weight and wow. up 9-6 and gave up 6 points in the last 2 ends
thats just a monumental collapse.
so now, unless estonia pulls out some real magic tonight we have our 4 playoff teams:
russia, denmark, scotland, finland.
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11-25-15 09:11AM |
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quote: Originally posted by Manitoba Legend
No-brainer at the beginning I picked Russia, Denmark, Scotland but there had to be a 4th so Finland slithers in.
Surprised to see CC show a glimmer of emotion as she crapped out on her final 4 shots of the game to hand Russia a win.
I could really feel for her as you could tell she was devastated - even though she usually shows about as much emotion as a pineapple.
Just wonder how much more of this she can take before calling it a day?
finland got demolished by russia and scotland but they do have a couple good wins over denmark and switzerland so..maybe there's a possibility of a medal for them?
i do fell a bit for cici. but only a bit because i cant feel to bad for someone who was up 9-6 with 1 end left to play and lost 12-9.
how will she recover mentally for the game against switzerland is the question. there is still technically a chance she could get a tiebreaker with a win. not a very good chance because it reuires finland to lose to estonia but a chance all the same.
i guess i shouldnt have said switzerland was out of it earlier, that was wrong and just saying finland will win. estonia does have a chance so technically switzerland is still alive but it would be a huge upset if finland lost tonight
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11-25-15 11:54AM |
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Will placements here have an impact on men's and women's world championships qualifiers ?
I was looking at who may get relegated to the B flight, and who may receive battlefield promotions to A but thought that doesn't matter with the Olympics a couple years away. Then I thought of the world's and wondered if the Scotland/England men are in danger of not qualifying for World's this year?
I can't figure all of that out, but someone here must know.
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11-25-15 12:37PM |
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HotRocks
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relegation
I just heard last night on the world curling stream that HUNgary and ESTonia will be relegated...
dont know about the others..
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11-25-15 04:00PM |
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misty1
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Re: relegation
quote: Originally posted by HotRocks
I just heard last night on the world curling stream that HUNgary and ESTonia will be relegated...
dont know about the others..
yep. hungary and estonia on the womens side are relegated no matter what. Its between norway and germany who finishes 8th and plays the world playoff against the B winner. if both win both finish 4-5 but germany the round robin match. im not sure if they would actually play a tiebreaker or not or use the H2H to determine 8th
we doi know that russia, denmark, scotland, switzerland, and sweden have qualified for the worlds
and yes switzerland do need estonia to win to get into a tiebreaker
its so much more complicated with the men
as of now czech republic and netherlands are relegated. czech republic play italy. now if czech republic win that and netherlands beat switzerland i have no idea how that would play out as all would be 3-6. it gets simple if italy win. czech republic and netherlands get relegated. as for who would play the world playoff i have no idea because there are a million scenarios there.
what we know for sure is that sweden and norway will be at the world championship
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11-25-15 04:10PM |
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misty1
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quote: Originally posted by TNH
Will placements here have an impact on men's and women's world championships qualifiers ?
I was looking at who may get relegated to the B flight, and who may receive battlefield promotions to A but thought that doesn't matter with the Olympics a couple years away. Then I thought of the world's and wondered if the Scotland/England men are in danger of not qualifying for World's this year?
I can't figure all of that out, but someone here must know.
its hard to figure out. there are many games taking place tomorrow that determine what happens, it all comes down to the last day. the only teams for sure that will be qualified for worlds are sweden and norway
scotland is safe from relegation, they will stay in A. thats for sure. now , whether or not they get through to worlds are have to play the playoff and finish 8th remains to be seen
tomorrow:
scotland plays germany
russia plays norway
switzerland plays netherlands
finland plays sweden
italy plays czech republic
all 5 games have meaning
scotland will qualify for worlds and could finish as high as 3rd tomorrow if they win , and everything else goes their way. they could still qualify for worlds and the playoffs if they lose though, as we could see 5 teams end up 4-5.
sorry if i cant help much but the mens side is way to complicated right now to say for sure if scotland are in worlds or not.im not sure what tiebreaker scenario they use to determine who finishes where. last year germany and scotland finished tied 3-6 and had to play a tibreaker to see who finished 8th and would play the world group playoff. im not sure if thats what they are doing again this year
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11-25-15 04:31PM |
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Womens world spots sealed
Norway loses to scotland and germany defeats hungary
that means that teams qualified for worlds are:
scotland
sweden
denmark
switzerland
germany
russia
finland
norway will finish 8th and play B group winner for the spot at worlds
also with finland defeating estonia the final 4 are indeed set. switzerland out.
russia v.s finland in the 1 v.s 4 game
scotland v.s denmark in the 2 v.s 3 game
denmark seriously spiraling now. lost 3 in a row
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11-25-15 05:10PM |
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sweden defeat switzerland in an extra and finish 5th and 5-4. switzerland have a severely disapointing european championship and finish 6th at 4-5. If they were low on confidence coming in this performance surely will not help at all.
they qualify switzerland for worlds but do not even come close to making the playoffs. its hard to say what is going on with this team right now or what can be done to fix it. but its been a really poor season for them overall. its hard to see them getting back to the worlds as it is right now.
as for sweden they finish a respectable 5-4. they will rue that loss against russia though as they could have and should have been in a tiebreaker.
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11-25-15 05:21PM |
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after day 6 i'm at 52- 34
Men draw 9:
sweden def. finland - finland will go all out to try and win so this will be a good game, they probably should have beaten them at worlds if not for a costly late mistake. sweden will edge it out though
italy def. czech republic - italy are still alive, czechs are fighting to stay in a. should be a good one but i'll go with italy
switzerland def. netherlands - as with every game a lot rides on this game for both and it wont be easy but going with switzerland
scotland def. germany - scotland really on a rollw now. will win this
norway def. russia - russia desperate to avoid going 5-4 but norway is to much right now.
so with this germany will finish 8th and be stuck playing the world group playoff
Womens semifinals:
russia def. denmark - denmark is in a tailspin and i dont know if they can get out of it. inconsistencies plague this team again
scotland def. finland - scotland is looking really good right now, peaking at the right time as they always seem to do. just dont think finland can keep up with them in this form
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11-25-15 06:51PM |
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misty1
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quote: Originally posted by Manitoba Legend
I hesitate to label Ladyhawke Paetz a one-hit wonder (2014 Worlds) but her performances this year have been less than stellar. She might be just a Jones-Killer, a team that gets exceptionally juiced up to play the legendary Jones team and makes shots like there's no tomorrow.
Sorta like Val Sweeting has been a bit of a Homan-killer (except this year) or Jeff Stoughton was a notorious McEwen-hunter for many years.
Wonder if the Swiss have made up their minds about who to send to this year's worlds (or is there a playdown misty?)
Tirinzoni has been steady on the Canadian circuit. Bini Feltscher won another big spiel last week. Jaeggi has been competing on the Canadian circuit and possibly Miri Ott is contemplating a comeback??? Who knows?
Sidorova is auto for Russia.
Same with Neilsen in Denmark, Muirhead in Scotland. Switzerland and Sweden have some tough decisions to make.
They can send a fawn like CC Ostlund to slaughter at the worlds - or send the rapidly deteriorating Prytz/Sigfridson combo. Not much choice there. At least the Swiss have 4 or 5 good quality teams.
switzerland does have a national championship.
im not writing off paetz yet, not after 1 rough season. but it is shocking how badly they are struggling this year. some teams just struggle to deal with all the attention on them. they wouldnt be used to it. it might just be taking them a year to get used to all the extra expectation
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11-25-15 07:10PM |
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Team Paetz
I think this Team actually won the worlds out of sync with the natural progression of their careers..
They are just going thru all the natural lessons and huge changes in their lives etc..
Nobody really knows how good they are.. like so many of the other young elite..De Cruz, Smith,
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11-25-15 08:50PM |
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Team Ostland- Sweden
I was really quite surprised at how terrible Cissi finished off a sure win by poor shots...
What's the cure
because Per Lindholm has likely already made that Team their Female rep
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Legend- concerning last years worlds..I was just happy and very surprised that a literal "no name" Paetz won the title...beating the Olympic Champs three times..
change is very good for all sports..even curling..
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