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Koe team had pretty much the same run at the roar .. same as Martin , Howard , and Stoughton...

The best way to ruin curling for me is to play it on lousy and inconsistent ice with mismatched rocks .. I saw Koe draw the pot to win a brier - when he cant get halfway to the house on a dozen draws im pretty sure it isnt about him .. and to say they werent trying hard would be naive ... if i was playing they would need to turn off my mike ... i watched less than 15 ends this week .. just caught the good stuff

Not sure why some posters cant see Carter's contribution... probably the most competitive and entertaining player i watch ..

and Russ is awesome .. guess you cant please everybody

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Glenn Howard is 51 not 53, Jeff Stoughton is 50 not 51 and Kevin Martin is 47 not 49. Over 7,000 posts and you're 0 for 3 LOL.

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The third for John Morris was Craig Savill at the time, still playing with Glen Howard for now!

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Koe team had pretty much the same run at the roar .. same as Martin , Howard , and Stoughton...

The best way to ruin curling for me is to play it on lousy and inconsistent ice with mismatched rocks .. I saw Koe draw the pot to win a brier - when he cant get halfway to the house on a dozen draws im pretty sure it isnt about him .. and to say they werent trying hard would be naive ... if i was playing they would need to turn off my mike ... i watched less than 15 ends this week .. just caught the good stuff

Not sure why some posters cant see Carter's contribution... probably the most competitive and entertaining player i watch ..

and Russ is awesome .. guess you cant please everybody

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Here's hoping that "Tommy & The Pants" convince their better halves to allow them to continue playing-the games needs a really colourful crew-especially one that can win.

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I'm not a big Koe fan (no particular reason), but the 1-2 game seemed to do him in. Ulsrud pretty much escaped with the win - coming through a port to make a late-end double with probably only a couple of centimetres to spare, and then relying on Koe to come up light with his final draw in the 9th. Even the 10th end got dicey for Ulsrud and he had to make a pretty good last shot to win.

The point of the comment is that Koe likely should have been in the final after the 1-2 game and the fact he wasn't seemed to play on his mind IMO.

Should Koe get a ton of criticism? I guess many of the armchair curlers will give it to him. Personally, I prefer to cut him and his rink some slack knowing they likely deserved to be in the final after the 1-2 game and believing that tough loss, and the ice, affected them in the 3-4 and bronze medal games. As I said I'm not a big Koe fan, but jumping all over him seems kind of pointless. I do admire that he took the blame in the post-game interviews. You don't see that a lot in today's sports world.

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Correction, in the game versus the winner of the 3-4 game. Sorry.

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What happened to Morris' 3rd who crushed Kennedy?

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SpongeBob pants wins the Worlds? What an embarassment. Nice job Koe. Thnx for attending, u lousy hack.

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SpongeBob pants wins the Worlds? What an embarassment. Nice job Koe. Thnx for attending, u lousy hack.

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You too could win the worlds if you learned how to curl 95%

Your a bitter little not very smart ass turd arent you ..

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SpongeBob pants wins the Worlds? What an embarassment. Nice job Koe. Thnx for attending, u lousy hack.

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I cant tell the difference between jimbobogie and unregistered, except with unregistered his ip address indicates he uses free wi fi at the scarborough library ... Jimbob tells us nothing

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Agreed. No difference between reg or unregistered. A registered user can make dickhead posts too(see all Manitoba Legend posts, ever).

As to Koe, that team was doomed from game one. They surrounded themselves with negative talk and vibes with their post Brier break up announcement. And they played like a team that obviously didn't want to be there-or be in the same room together for that matter. Hopefully Koe learned to zip his lip until after the season is over.

They were ripe for the fall. Lucky to finish fourth, frankly.

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its not all on team koe or any team for that matter. The fact is that no matter how hard people try to keep a secret its just to hard these days. with social media and all the ways there are for information to leak out its almost inevitable that this kind of secret was going to get out before they wanted it to.

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You all sound like Koe's team was a disaster and didn't put in a full effort. With the games in the wee morning hours I wonder how many of you actually watched the Playoff games.

Koe was one shot away from having the lead in the final end of the Page 1v2 game against Ulsrud. A draw/tap that came up way short in the 9th end for 2, which would have had the team in the drivers seat.

In the Semifinal against Sweden, Koe missed a draw in the 2nd end that just had to be anywhere in the 8-foot and then the 3 he gave up was another end where Koe missed a shot.

Koe admitted after the fact the HE wasn't playing at his best. Sometimes this happens and in the past they might have been able to get away with it. The rest of the world is catching up and Ulsrud quietly had one of the stronger season and the Eriksson team is very good as well.

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Koe wasn't at his best because he, and his team, didn't want to be there.

True professional teams and athletes don't announce end of season moves until the season is over. If the leafs told Randy Carlyle he was fired but still had to coach the final ten games, how hard do you think he would work?

True pros don't do what this team did. Pure and simple.

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Koe's team mates didn't want to be there in China.... ofcurse their minds might have been elsewhere other than the curling rink , but representing your country requires some focus and attention to what is at hand ...any half ass input results in udder failure...

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Just because they lost does not mean they did not want to be there or win. What makes everyone an expert in what Kevin, or any of them were thinking? If you can read minds, and predict the future, can you tell me the lotto 6/49 winning numbers? The anger, and the venom expressed on here is sad.

They are splitting. Carter is changing his plans so they can keep the Team Canada designation and privileges. Next year will look different just like every year. People come and go. I am curious about Gushue...what about Mark Nichols???

But I do not know what they will do so I will just wait until they announce what next season will bring.

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Koe's team mates didn't want to be there in China.... ofcurse their minds might have been elsewhere other than the curling rink , but representing your country requires some focus and attention to what is at hand ...any half ass input results in udder failure...

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Koe wasn't at his best because he, and his team, didn't want to be there.

True professional teams and athletes don't announce end of season moves until the season is over. If the leafs told Randy Carlyle he was fired but still had to coach the final ten games, how hard do you think he would work?

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To all the people talking about the importance of the team break-up (i.e. that's why they didn't win a medal), do you really think Nolan, Carter and Pat didn't want to add a World Championship gold medal to their resumes. That's makes no sense whatsoever. If anything they were likely more motivated to prove Kevin wrong for dissolving the team.

Was the off-ice camaraderie between the team likely lesser than normal? Probably. But their effort on the ice was there from start to finish and one or two breaks in the 1-2 game didn't go their way and it snowballed from there.

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1. Team Koe didn't announce anything prior to the Worlds.

2. One made shot in the 9th end against Ulsrud and they're in the final. To suggest Koe didn't want to be there is disingenuous. The Koe we watched was no different from how he acts on the ice all the time, just this time we got to see most of their games and fans just love to nitpick his behaviour when players become Team Canada.

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are you actually going to sit there and suggest that if koe makes a draw for 2 to go up by 1 in the 9th end that that puts him into the final? because that's ridiculous

ulsrud very likely could have scored a 2 in the 10th end

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Sure, Ulsrud can score 2, but it would have put Koe is a very strong position to win the game. Elite teams are very strong in that position and Koe is no different, with an 8-1 record this season when up 1 without hammer. Ulsrud on the other side is 5-4 when down 1 with hammer.

When a team of Koe's hitting ability gets a lead in that situation they're very tough to beat.

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