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misty1
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i dont see any changes to the jones rink. she herself was not her usual self here but she was strong at the scotties, as good as we had ever seen her.
i could see she was upset in the interview, you can tell how badly she wants another world gold.
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| 03-22-15 01:22PM |
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Originally posted by misty1
i dont see any changes to the jones rink. she herself was not her usual self here but she was strong at the scotties, as good as we had ever seen her.
i could see she was upset in the interview, you can tell how badly she wants another world gold.
Canadians are so accustomed to winning curling gold that a silver is looked on as a loss. And now the inevitable, "Is Jenn past it? Is it time for her to give up curling and take up lawn bowls?" Well, she was the class act at the Scotties and a top rate curler here but she ran into a group of super-hot Swiss misses.
No other Canadian team would have done as well as she did this week.
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| 03-22-15 01:33PM |
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I'm with ya, greenroad. Best/worst comment along these lines that I've read today suggested that Lawes, Officer and McEwen should dump Jones and replace her with Cathy O. After all, it worked for Thiessen, Rycroft and Simmons when they bumped Koe, who was obviously the weak link on that team.
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| 03-22-15 01:54PM |
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I think there will be changes to Team Jones within the next couple years, but it will be because of pregnancies. I can see at least one player on the team if not more having a baby before the next olympics. It will be interesting if it does happen and who they bring in.
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| 03-22-15 02:23PM |
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Ajay
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Decisive? What was the point differential in all three games? Each game could have gone either way.
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| 03-22-15 02:31PM |
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Decisive? What was the point differential in all three games? Each game could have gone either way.
At Brier, Scotties, Worlds, etc the talk is always how difficult it is for teams in the finals to beat another team twice in a row. Swiss did it 3 in a row. Sure, each game could have gone either way but fact is it did not. Ergo decisive.
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Originally posted by greenroad
Canadians are so accustomed to winning curling gold that a silver is looked on as a loss. And now the inevitable, "Is Jenn past it? Is it time for her to give up curling and take up lawn bowls?" Well, she was the class act at the Scotties and a top rate curler here but she ran into a group of super-hot Swiss misses.
A reasonable, level-headed comment, followed by...
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No other Canadian team would have done as well as she did this week.
...CurlingZone hyperbole Hall of Fame material.
You really don't think any of the Scotties playoff teams could have made the final?
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| 03-22-15 03:47PM |
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Wonder if the watches Team Switzerland received were made in Japan?
Found the answer -they were EDOX- swiss made.
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| 03-22-15 03:57PM |
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misty1
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the swiss women have been brilliant at worlds these last 4 years, with the exception of 2013. have to wonder if the men will start getting similar results or at the very least if they will get a gold.
Decruz is their best shot at gold no doubt followed by Michel. No one really expects much of Pfister..now watch come and make the final
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| 03-22-15 04:15PM |
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greenroad
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You really don't think any of the Scotties playoff teams could have made the final?
I didn't say that. I said they would not have done as well. They may not have had as good a RR. They may have been in 3-4. Canada sent its top team to the World's and they played that way. I don't think any of the other teams I saw at the Scotties would have performed as well.
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| 03-22-15 04:18PM |
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misty1
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Originally posted by greenroad
I didn't say that. I said they would not have done as well. They may not have had as good a RR. They may have been in 3-4. Canada sent its top team to the World's and they played that way. I don't think any of the other teams I saw at the Scotties would have performed as well.
homan might have and sweeting...well you never know but she could have.
lawton would have been a 7-4 or 8-3 but more than likely 7-4
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| 03-22-15 04:30PM |
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Radio-Man
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Homan and Sweeting could have won it.
Jones had the best week at the Scotties so she automatically would have been better then them this week? Don't buy it. Jones wasn't at her best this week unfortunately, like Homan (well her team, Rachel was great for the most part) wasn't at the Scotties. Sucks for Canada, this shi! happens.
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| 03-22-15 04:55PM |
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Radio-Man
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Never know with Homan. Her accuracy and hitting precision are second to none. But her touch game, while vastly improved wouldn't stand up to Alina Patz.
I don't know if Patz could have vanquished Rachel 3 straight.
Sweeting is kind of a hybrid between Homan and Jones. Not quite as precise as Homan, but a slightly better ice-reader and chapper than Great Jennifer.
Jones was hanging on for dear life in the STOH final vs. Sweeting but Val couldnt' quite close the deal. Sweeting was devastated after the final cuz she knew she had Jones nearly buried.
Once Sweden and Scotland soiled themselves there were only two other world class teams in Japan, besides Jones. Paetz who eventually swarmed Canada and Russia who played well in their playoff run (beating Scotland twice) except vs. Jones.
Sweeting or Homan would have gone anywhere from 8-3 to 10-1 in the round-robin and been smart money for the final.
Yeah, I'd take Homan or Sweeting in the final over Paetz, without hesitation. These Swiss girls are a really solid team who play within themselves and don't seem to get rattled. I just don't see them as a team that would strike fear into the opposition like a Homan, Muirhead or Jones do when firing on all cylinders. I just see an extra gear with those teams, but perhaps I'm underestimating the Swiss.
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| 03-22-15 05:19PM |
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I just see an extra gear with those teams, but perhaps I'm underestimating the Swiss.
They beat Jones three out of three. Few would have predicted that - from any team.
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| 03-22-15 05:33PM |
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They beat Jones three out of three. Few would have predicted that - from any team.
Well done SUISSE. Bright future.
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| 03-22-15 05:41PM |
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greenroad
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lol ... i was just thinking that if you guys were born women and could curl a lot better and had won the Scot - you would have beat Patz if she had missed her last shot...
Yes, it's a game of nanometers. If the last rock had been just a smidgen off we would now all be celebrating Jenn's "great victory" and how she clearly deserved it on the basis of the week's play.
The margin between the thrill of victory and agony of defeat is exceedingly narrow.
When you get beyond the "if the dog hadn't stopped to take a crap..." debate it all boils down to this:
On any given day any good team can beat any other one.
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| 03-22-15 06:36PM |
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You really don't think any of the Scotties playoff teams could have made the final? [/B][/QUOTE]
I love that people can't recognize that to reach the Worlds, a Canadian team has to peak at the Scotties, or Brier, as the toughest competition any Canadian team faces is winning their National Championship. With the Olympics the team has some downtime between winning and the next event, this doesn't apply to the Worlds.
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| 03-22-15 08:35PM |
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misty1
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Originally posted by Manitoba Legend
I love that people can't recognize that to reach the Worlds, a Canadian team has to peak at the Scotties, or Brier, as the toughest competition any Canadian team faces is winning their National Championship. With the Olympics the team has some downtime between winning and the next event, this doesn't apply to the Worlds.
Agree with your idea of performance-peaking. Jones, Sweeting and Homan would have made the world playoffs. Stef Lawton would have made a frantic attempt at tie-breaker or 4th spot outright.
In the rest of the world the only teams capable of making an Olympic or World FINAL 4 are:
Feltscher
Tirinzoni
Muirhead
Sidorova
Sigfriddson
CC Ostlund
Rocque won't be ready for a couple years. But when she's ready then Paetz should beware. [/B][/QUOTE]'
i would add ji sun kim to that last. 4th in her last 2 worlds appearances. really should have had bronze last year
its a shame what happened with them and their coach because they were getting really good very fast. i thought i saw them on tour early in the season but they kind of disappeared later on
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Jones is definitely not elite when it comes to calling ice, line and weight. And it really came home to roost on this end.
Very painful to watch. The strange thing is I don't think Jones will learn a thing from it!
You're an ignorant man posting this garbage on this forum.
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| 03-22-15 09:44PM |
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greenroad
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I really don't like where world women's curling is going.
Hasn't it always been thus? After Canada, US, Sweden, Suisse, Scotland, curlers are little more than a handful of people in each country. Maybe nothing more than getting a few players and training them to represent the country.
Maybe the reality is that the sport is not growing in most countries.
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| 03-22-15 09:55PM |
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If there are others on this site who think Legend should be banned, please post this and maybe the site owners will finally clue in at some point.
I'd rather you give it a rest, to be honest. The people who don't want to hear his comments put him on ignore. I suggest you do the same.
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| 03-22-15 10:03PM |
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I'd rather you give it a rest, to be honest. The people who don't want to hear his comments put him on ignore. I suggest you do the same.
I'm actually disappointed in you. On one hand, I saw you broadcasting the TCA finals this year at the Cricket, an event by the way that I was playing in at the time. So in theory you care about the game. But your contributions on here seem shallow at times and you give this Legend guy a free pass as he insults top woman curlers.
But do put me on ignore if you don't like this message.
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| 03-22-15 10:49PM |
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I don't care what you think Peter. I'm actually disappointed in you. On one hand, I saw you broadcasting the TCA finals this year at the Cricket, an event by the way that I was playing in at the time. So in theory you care about the game. But your contributions on here seem shallow at times and you give this Legend guy a free pass as he insults top woman curlers.
But do put me on ignore if you don't like this message.
I'm not whoever you think I am (probably Pete Steski).
Regardless, I find you to be much more of a jerk than ML. But hey, just one man's opinion.
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You're an ignorant man posting this garbage on this forum.
Yes he is, but he's been doing it for quite some time and I guess the moderators think it's just fine since he's allowed to do it despite many many many complaints and all sorts of good posters leaving the forum because of him.
Put him on ignore and then you only see a comment when someone unfortunately quotes him. You'll get pages though where half or more of the comments are hidden!
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You're an ignorant man posting this garbage on this forum.
Whine, whine, whine.
STFU already.
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