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I found the 3rd place game difficult to watch for many reasons.
I am from Ontario.
I hated watching a really good team crumble.
But mostly what I found difficult was listening to Linda and Russ. I watched so many games this week puzzled by calls, decisions and play. Most of those games L and R were not so hard on the teams/players involved. It seemed to be the treat of the day to pick on the young ladies constantly.
Linda going on and on about having to decide at the start of the end "having a plan and sticking to it". Every great team can go from offence, to defence and back again....considering what the other team is doing and the shots being made/missed.

I really don't think this is me playing the sour grapes card.

I found it difficult to watch and enjoy.

anyone else?

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I found it difficuly to watch because it was a meaningless game. If anyone thinks the players cared, just look how excited N.S. upon winning the game.

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Yes, I would agree also with that statement. I remember years and years ago the NCAA final four used to have a 3rd place game. It was not a pretty sight at all.

Get rid of it.

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The young Ontario team seemed like they ran out of gas at the end of a long week. You couldn't blame them if their hearts weren't in it, and I really wish the announcers would have made mention of that once things started falling apart for them. In the end Brian Mudryk was the only one to bring it up during his 5th end interview with Heather, asking if Heather thought that the game was tough for the teams to get up for. Maybe the rest of the crew didn't want to appear critical of the bronze medal game, but I thought they could have thrown the girls a lifeline somewhere in there.

I also found Linda was a bit harsh on Rachel in several ends. Specifically I was dissapointed in Linda's commentary in the 7th. When Rachel went to throw her first rock, Linda criticized her strategy during the end as being too complicated for what the scoreboard dictated and not sticking to "what they wanted to accomplish in the end", without regard for the fact that three fairly routine shots were missed pretty badly in front of her, enough to defeat any strategy.

It just seemed to me that Linda never agreed fundamentally with the aggressive strategy of the Homan rink throughout the week, and her commentary during this game had the feel of an "I told you so" that she was holding back all week but never had a chance to let out.

Personally though I didn't find Russ condescending at all. I found him complimenting to both teams throughout the game when they deserved it and pretty fair in his criticisms.

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Linda Moore dumped all over Erin Carmody last Scotties as well.. that school-marmish condescending thing she does.

Taking a look at Rachel Homan.. her colour was white..drained.. all the emotion and Mindwork of playing TWO tough games .. one hour apart Saturday took away all her drive.
She was even dragging to even think of shots.

That Bronze medal game was CCA trying to use the curlers to grab some fan money and TV time money..
As much as I was happy it was telecast cause that 6:30ET Final time is stupidly LATE.. and o nly NS had any real steam having rested since the 3-4 game.

Totally meaningless and a sham since Homan already beat NS to get into the SFinal.
As an athlete I always hated a fourth place in anything but in this case I doubt Team Ontario could have cared less..

Get rid of it.. what's the 3-4 game for..if it isn't establishing who gets Third if they Lose the Semi Final???

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Linda has been on the TSN broadcast crew since 1989.
Time for her to join Ray on the sidelines and bring in Cathy Gauthier on a full time basis.

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UYK, as has already been pointed out several times...

The time difference between the start of the 3/4 game and the semi-final was the same as it had been all week in the round-robin. It would have been the same situation if Homan had the morning-afternoon draw one day and her opponent had the morning draw bye.

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It was a pointless game-obviously done for some TV revenue. The loser of the Semi-final should be awarded the Bronze-not forced to replay the 3-4 Page game-something they already won.

Homan and her team were robbed of a medal they had already earned.

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I found it difficuly to watch because it was a meaningless game. If anyone thinks the players cared, just look how excited N.S. upon winning the game.

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NS received $11,500 for finishing third. They looked pretty pleased to me.

They certainly appeared to be trying their best as they did all week! Homan, however did look out of sorts and mot entirely engaged.

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You make it sound like ont. didn't make a cent. It was a meaningless game. Do you REALLY think that those 2 teams wanted to be out there???

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A medal, some national TV facetime during the awards ceremony and $11,500 - I'll let you be the judge.

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TV facetime???? Do you really think they are that shallow???? Again with the $11,500. Do you think Ont got nothing??? thanks for allowing me the honor to judge.

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Git: Of course thay would be proud to receive their medal before the live crowd and before a national TV audience. That isn't being "shallow"...it's being human, and being proud of your accomplishment.

Holman got $7,500, so I would think an extra $1,000 per player is worth giving your best.

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Really?

Please tell me, everybody on this thread is joking!

This game is soooooooooo meaningless, and if any of you posters are competitive curlers you would get this. There really should not even be any comments about anybody wanting to be in this game, no matter what fake carrots the CCA puts up for it - - - NOBODY wanted to be on the ice for this game especially four 20-somethings in their first grown up national.

What we all witnessed midday Sunday was 8 ladies going through the motions to keep some do____bags in red jackets who have not thrown a competitive rock in at least 2 decades happy.

Imagine sitting down in August, setting a plan, which included having almost no fun, all business, that included burning all your holidays from work. Then go home and tell your husband and children that you just committed to this, oh and by the way, if I do not make the goal of this commitment and win the Scotties, I am probably gonna be disappointed and depressed beyond your imagination for quite some time.

Then 1 or 2 games from fulfilling this dream/goal (which 99% of teams in Canada do not get to) you lose out, guess what the do____bags at the CCA tell you. Oh sorry you do not get to finally let out some steam and let loose and party with the thousands of people that we have invited.

Why do you not get to party and blow off a seasons worth of steam? Oh that is easy, you are our horses, you make us all our money and we decided that a good way to make more money was to put you on TV 1 more time so we could show 40 more really SHI__Y commercials of some loser with a really bad nickname throwing a fake shot.

Oops, sorry did I let the cat out of the bag? No matter what the CCA tells you about 'grassroots', they make all their money from the elite teams, Martin is not wrong about this.

I feel so sorry for the teams that had to get up Sunday morning and get ready for a game that had less meaning than a November Sunday Legion game, this is 1 experiment that was and is wrong from the beginning.

Disappointed

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I forgot to say that I am pretty sure we watched 8 hangovers in action on Sunday, I can't believe anybody at the CCA thought it would be any different. Not only are they clueless, pretty stupid.

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Really?

Please tell me, everybody on this thread is joking!

This game is soooooooooo meaningless, and if any of you posters are competitive curlers you would get this. There really should not even be any comments about anybody wanting to be in this game, no matter what fake carrots the CCA puts up for it - - - NOBODY wanted to be on the ice for this game especially four 20-somethings in their first grown up national.

What we all witnessed midday Sunday was 8 ladies going through the motions to keep some do____bags in red jackets who have not thrown a competitive rock in at least 2 decades happy.

Imagine sitting down in August, setting a plan, which included having almost no fun, all business, that included burning all your holidays from work. Then go home and tell your husband and children that you just committed to this, oh and by the way, if I do not make the goal of this commitment and win the Scotties, I am probably gonna be disappointed and depressed beyond your imagination for quite some time.

Then 1 or 2 games from fulfilling this dream/goal (which 99% of teams in Canada do not get to) you lose out, guess what the do____bags at the CCA tell you. Oh sorry you do not get to finally let out some steam and let loose and party with the thousands of people that we have invited.

Why do you not get to party and blow off a seasons worth of steam? Oh that is easy, you are our horses, you make us all our money and we decided that a good way to make more money was to put you on TV 1 more time so we could show 40 more really SHI__Y commercials of some loser with a really bad nickname throwing a fake shot.

Oops, sorry did I let the cat out of the bag? No matter what the CCA tells you about 'grassroots', they make all their money from the elite teams, Martin is not wrong about this.

I feel so sorry for the teams that had to get up Sunday morning and get ready for a game that had less meaning than a November Sunday Legion game, this is 1 experiment that was and is wrong from the beginning.

Disappointed

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I feel so sorry for the teams that had to get up Sunday morning and get ready for a game that had less meaning than a November Sunday Legion game, this is 1 experiment that was and is wrong from the beginning.

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I totally agree. Why the H*** would you give a loser another chance to win a medal. If the CCA went to the World or Olympic format and had 1 vs 4 and 2 vs 3... then the losers should play for a bronze. I thought the reason the CCA went to the page playoff was to give the 1st and 2nd place teams an extra life, which they deserve because of their high finish. Now the CCA throws in another game which gives a 4th place loser a second chance. Hey, maybe we should play the whole roundrobin again because the teams might not finish in the same order.

If the CCA wants to make more money and show more commercials... dress the players in lingerie and I'm sure they would get more viewers. That's about as much sense as playing the bronze game was on Sunday.

I don't think the RH team was proud of their performance on Sunday, but I blame the CCA for putting them in a very embarrasing situ. I'm sure many of us would have thought, acted and performed in the same way.

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I totally agree. Why the H*** would you give a loser another chance to win a medal. If the CCA went to the World or Olympic format and had 1 vs 4 and 2 vs 3... then the losers should play for a bronze. I thought the reason the CCA went to the page playoff was to give the 1st and 2nd place teams an extra life, which they deserve because of their high finish. Now the CCA throws in another game which gives a 4th place loser a second chance. Hey, maybe we should play the whole roundrobin again because the teams might not finish in the same order.

If the CCA wants to make more money and show more commercials... dress the players in lingerie and I'm sure they would get more viewers. That's about as much sense as playing the bronze game was on Sunday.

I don't think the RH team was proud of their performance on Sunday, but I blame the CCA for putting them in a very embarrasing situ. I'm sure many of us would have thought, acted and performed in the same way.

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To the average audience, probably a meaningless game. To the other half of the audience, they understand as much as the players how much it meant.

1) A medal at the Scotties. I'd much rather come home with a Bronze than a 4th place finish and no medal. Yes I would rather win it but then again, if Im not going to, I want to atleast have a medal to show how well we did.

2) An added $4000 in the team's pockets. Doesn't sound like much but if you tell me I'm playing a game in an hour for $4000, I am replying back with let's play now and not in an hour from now.

3) Points!!! These will be important for WCT events, Canada Cup Events, and eventually, Olympic Qualifying.

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To the average audience, probably a meaningless game. To the other half of the audience, they understand as much as the players how much it meant.

1) A medal at the Scotties. I'd much rather come home with a Bronze than a 4th place finish and no medal. Yes I would rather win it but then again, if Im not going to, I want to atleast have a medal to show how well we did.

2) An added $4000 in the team's pockets. Doesn't sound like much but if you tell me I'm playing a game in an hour for $4000, I am replying back with let's play now and not in an hour from now.

3) Points!!! These will be important for WCT events, Canada Cup Events, and eventually, Olympic Qualifying.

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Ontario was already guaranteed the $4,000 and the Bronze medals just for playing the Saturday Semi-final game. There was no need for the extra game. And IMO it was not fair to Team Ontario. They lose the game and then are expected or required to go to the banquet and required to play another game the next morning for something they had already won the previous afternoon.

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NS won $11,500. ON won $7,500. So yes there was an added $4,000 to play for.

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