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Sasquatch
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Originally posted by misty1
nicely done by alina when it looked like 2 was all but sure.
switzerland into its 3rd final in 4 years. its a golden age for the swiss thats for sure
Their program sure makes a strong case for sending a national championship winner rather than a tour leader (like the U.S.). It's all about who gets hot this time of year.
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misty1
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Jones curls anywhere like she did tonite she'll be fish fodder for Anna Sidorova.
I really don't see Jones suddenly morphing into Miss Precision in 4 hours.
Sidorova has already slayed one giant. Now its time for another!
i seriously doubt she will lose to russia. anna just folds when she plays canadian teams. the one victory russia has was over amber holland when lucy was still part of the squad
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| 03-20-15 10:58PM |
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Stoner
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Misty doesn't like Jones but won't come out publically and root against her. Roots for Paetz!
It's a bit sad that Canadiens can't come together and root for them no matter who the rep is, I'm a huge team Homan fan, but I've got no issue with Jones repping us, they are a great team no doubt and deserve to be there, based on this season I would rather have them there than Homan even, as Homan have not been up to their past standards.
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nickelcity
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Originally posted by Manitoba Legend
Misty doesn't like Jones but won't come out publically and root against her. Roots for Paetz!
I'm in complete agreement with misty here. Although I'm obviously pulling my home country Canada, in all honesty I prefer seeing young and coming teams do well, really looks good for the future of curling. The Swiss team always seems to have a positive attitude so I find it really easy to cheer for them. Congrats to them for having such a fantastic week so far, they definitely deserve the spot in the gold medal game. Most consistent team all week and although their percentages weren't always the best (correct me if I'm wrong), they always made the right shots at the right time. Still hoping Canada can pull through the semi-final but in reality, I'm fine with any of the 3 remaining teams to win. Obviously for the Swiss team, it would be a huge confidence boost for Paetz and would look fantastic for Swiss curling, 3 world golds since 2012 with 3 different teams. Russia and Sidorova winning would prove that they really are here to compete and would look great for Russian women's curling. Hard work has really paid off. And obviously Canada because, well, it's my country and the team is good enough to win.
Just because one may be from Canada doesn't mean they can't cheer for anyone else.
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| 03-20-15 11:01PM |
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misty1
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Originally posted by Stoner
It's a bit sad that Canadiens can't come together and root for them no matter who the rep is, I'm a huge team Homan fan, but I've got no issue with Jones repping us, they are a great team no doubt.
im not actively hoping jen loses and if she wins im happy for her.
but i always cheer with my heart and that means favorites first even if it means pulling for them over canada. mirjam being the coach ..it sways me to pull for the swiss
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| 03-20-15 11:02PM |
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Stoner
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Originally posted by Manitoba Legend
Jones will have to fall at the hands of the Russian bear! This game pretty much went according to round-robin form. Jones unable to manufacture deuces due to her errant rock placement.
Curls another sub 80 game vs. Russia and Anna will make short work of her. And so will Eve for that matter but the only thing there would be Jen trying to pick up her second bronze medal in 5 trips to the worlds (already has the 1 gold)
Jones team played their best game tonite but Jones leadership and skipping style was not conducive to winning against an opponent who refused to fold
Well tbf, there were a couple of cracks in that Swiss watch, just not enough to break, in the final I expect they will break.
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| 03-20-15 11:03PM |
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misty1
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Originally posted by nickelcity
I'm in complete agreement with misty here. Although I'm obviously pulling my home country Canada, in all honesty I prefer seeing young and coming teams do well, really looks good for the future of curling. The Swiss team always seems to have a positive attitude so I find it really easy to cheer for them. Congrats to them for having such a fantastic week so far, they definitely deserve the spot in the gold medal game. Most consistent team all week and although their percentages weren't always the best (correct me if I'm wrong), they always made the right shots at the right time. Still hoping Canada can pull through the semi-final but in reality, I'm fine with any of the 3 remaining teams to win. Obviously for the Swiss team, it would be a huge confidence boost for Paetz and would look fantastic for Swiss curling, 3 world golds since 2012 with 3 different teams. Russia and Sidorova winning would prove that they really are here to compete and would look great for Russian women's curling. Hard work has really paid off. And obviously Canada because, well, it's my country and the team is good enough to win.
Just because one may be from Canada doesn't mean they can't cheer for anyone else.
very well said.
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Stoner
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Originally posted by misty1
im not actively hoping jen loses and if she wins im happy for her.
but i always cheer with my heart and that means favorites first even if it means pulling for them over canada. mirjam being the coach ..it sways me to pull for the swiss
I get that, how I do it though is I will pull for my favorite teams regardless of nation on the tour, but when it comes to international event's I'll only pull for my home nation, but I'll admit I was a bit happy to see Russia over Scotland, but now that they will play Canada it's Canada all the way.
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| 03-20-15 11:06PM |
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rick8end
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Originally posted by misty1
jen left points on the board tonight but so did alina. could have got 3 in the first but got 2. was tight in 9 and got 2 when she could have got a mit ful
I agree. The Swiss pretty much dominated the game. Their mistakes, late in ends, kept it close. If Canada gets another crack at her, and I obviously hope they do, you wonder if Jones will try a different strategy.
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rick8end
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Originally posted by nickelcity
I'm in complete agreement with misty here. Although I'm obviously pulling my home country Canada, in all honesty I prefer seeing young and coming teams do well, really looks good for the future of curling. The Swiss team always seems to have a positive attitude so I find it really easy to cheer for them. Congrats to them for having such a fantastic week so far, they definitely deserve the spot in the gold medal game. Most consistent team all week and although their percentages weren't always the best (correct me if I'm wrong), they always made the right shots at the right time. Still hoping Canada can pull through the semi-final but in reality, I'm fine with any of the 3 remaining teams to win. Obviously for the Swiss team, it would be a huge confidence boost for Paetz and would look fantastic for Swiss curling, 3 world golds since 2012 with 3 different teams. Russia and Sidorova winning would prove that they really are here to compete and would look great for Russian women's curling. Hard work has really paid off. And obviously Canada because, well, it's my country and the team is good enough to win.
Just because one may be from Canada doesn't mean they can't cheer for anyone else.
There's a difference between cheering for a good young rink to do well in a neutral game, and cheering for that young rink to do well against Canada. You either cheer for your home country or you don't. You can't sugar coat it and say I'm patriotic, but I'm cheering for the other team as well. This is not an event that Canada wins year after year. If you can't cheer for a Jones, a Homan, or a Sweeting to bring home the gold, then at least admit you don't like the individual representing Canada. That's likely being more honest.
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| 03-20-15 11:16PM |
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misty1
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Originally posted by rick8end
There's a difference between cheering for a good young rink to do well in a neutral game, and cheering for that young rink to do well against Canada. You either cheer for your home country or you don't. You can't sugar coat it and say I'm patriotic, but I'm cheering for the other team as well. This is not an event that Canada wins year after year. If you can't cheer for a Jones, a Homan, or a Sweeting to bring home the gold, then at least admit you don't like the individual representing Canada. That's likely being more honest.
i dont like jones and i am very open about that. however , as i said its not like i am actively hoping for her to lose.
if canada wins im happy but it doesnt make a bad canadian to cheer for others. just like the part of me that likes a good underdog story and like to cheer for the little guy doesnt make me a bad canadian when i cheer for slovakia in hockey even over canada.
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| 03-20-15 11:18PM |
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Stoner
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Originally posted by Manitoba Legend
Well, this is a curling chat site. Its called Curling Zone not Jones Zone. Much as I admire Jones and her great legacy I have to call things as I see them. Often, when Jones is running on 5 cylinders I have to criticize her. People should be free to cheer for whoever they like and make whatever criticism or kudos they choose. Save for the trollers and haters!
So you have to criticize Jones when she is playing well, how nice. 
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Stoner
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Originally posted by Manitoba Legend
Moreso vs. Sidorova. Less so vs. Jones. They know they've got Jones number and also know that Jennifer is kinda out of it right now. JJ is basically running on fumes.
Right now in an Alberta Rec room Val Sweeting is thinking that she was the better team at the Scotties and should be here. Jones was vulnerable in the Scotties final but somehow managed to fend off a far too eager Val in the final.
Only other team besides Paetz I've seen control Jones as much as Paetz did is Rachel Homan. She marked Jen real hard in their STOH final.
And maybe Kelly Scott years ago when Jen didn't have a sharp-shooter like Lawes and a top lead like McEwen.
You take every opportunity to be quite unrealistic about Jones, it's no secret you don't like them, but the fact remains they are the best in the world by a lot, so their last game really does not mean anything, they still have another chance to get it done, don't count them out yet.
At least some curling fans are a different breed, they can't seem to get it through their heads that this is a nation vs. nation event and not a tour one.
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misty1
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Originally posted by Stoner
You take every opportunity to be quite unrealistic about Jones, it's no secret you don't like them, but the fact remains they are the best in the world by a lot, so their last game really does not mean anything, they still have another chance to get it done, don't count them out yet.
At least some curling fans are a different breed, they can't seem to get it through their heads that this is a nation vs. nation event and not a tour one.
everyone here is well aware its a nation v.s nation event
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Stoner
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Originally posted by misty1
i dont like jones and i am very open about that. however , as i said its not like i am actively hoping for her to lose.
if canada wins im happy but it doesnt make a bad canadian to cheer for others. just like the part of me that likes a good underdog story and like to cheer for the little guy doesnt make me a bad canadian when i cheer for slovakia in hockey even over canada.
Yeah sure, go for others, just as long as Canada is #1 until they are out preferably.
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Stoner
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everyone here is well aware its a nation v.s nation event
Appearently they aren't if they are not cheering for their own nations team's before the others, no matter what you think of them the rest of the season.
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rick8end
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Originally posted by misty1
i dont like jones and i am very open about that. however , as i said its not like i am actively hoping for her to lose.
if canada wins im happy but it doesnt make a bad canadian to cheer for others. just like the part of me that likes a good underdog story and like to cheer for the little guy doesnt make me a bad canadian when i cheer for slovakia in hockey even over canada.
I couldn't care less who you cheer for. Nothing says you have to cheer for your home country and it doesn't make you a bad Canadian if you don't. But your suggestion that you don't like Jones, but you're not actively hoping she loses is almost certainly disingenuous. At least be a little more honest about it.
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| 03-20-15 11:38PM |
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Stoner
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Originally posted by Manitoba Legend
I used to agree with you but the standard action today is making the easier shot, eliminating the chance of scoring more than 1. If you miss the guard or hit a bad patch of ice - you give up two and all your good work is undone. Keeping control of the game is key - Jennifer Jones has taught me that!
Obviously, that changes if you're behind by 2 or more - even 1.
But isn't the guard the easier shot than the in house takeout, you did know their were other guards already covering right, so if Russia put another guard there it would have been quite difficult for Scotland to even get 1.
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misty1
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I couldn't care less who you cheer for. Nothing says you have to cheer for your home country and it doesn't make you a bad Canadian if you don't. But your suggestion that you don't like Jones, but you're not actively hoping she loses is almost certainly disingenuous. At least be a little more honest about it.
well i suppose that by hoping switzerland won tonight that means that i was hoping canada lost. but mainly it is that, in the game tonight that i was hping switzerland to win. my main thought wasnt oh i hope jen loses tonight it was i hope switzerland wins
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Stoner
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The Worlds are supposed to be about hoping your nation shows well enough or gets a medal, not about which teams you prefer, or not liking the rep from your nation, save that for the tour. Like I said before even though I like team Homan, I'm happy with whoever rep's Canada, because I know that they are likely to play for a medal, which is all you can really be happy about, I also believe that Jones are the best team for CANADA right now, so again I'm quite happy.
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rick8end
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well i suppose that by hoping switzerland won tonight that means that i was hoping canada lost. but mainly it is that, in the game tonight that i was hping switzerland to win. my main thought wasnt oh i hope jen loses tonight.
you might not like a person but that doesnt mean you go around actively hoping they lose all the time
I appreciate the honesty.
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misty1
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The Worlds are supposed to be about hoping your nation shows well enough or gets a medal, not about which teams you prefer, or not liking the rep from your nation, save that for the tour.
but thats not always the way it works and im not the only one out there who does things this way. maybe the only one on here but thats what..15 people
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Stoner
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but thats not always the way it works and im not the only one out there who does things this way. maybe the only one on here but thats what..15 people
Yes, but look, some nations only have maybe 1 rep anyway like China, Canada are spoiled with really good teams, so really we need to look past that sort of thing, like I said save it for the tour and the TOH, but once a team has won the TOH we should acknowledge that and support them at the Worlds no matter what.
But maybe you aren't like that, is it that you just like the game itself more than anything, but you do seem to like teams, or is it teams that curl well, if it is then Jones does curl well, or is the type of game they play you don't like?
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Cosss
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Yes, but look, some nations only have maybe 1 rep anyway like China, Canada are spoiled with really good teams, so really we need to look past that sort of thing, like I said save it for the tour and the TOH, but once a team has won the TOH we should acknowledge that and support them at the Worlds no matter what.
Amen to that!
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