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Frozencanuck
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Team Canada concept
One problem with the team Canada concept is that very few provinces have the depth to send 2 competitive teams. Witness Manitoba this year. Can anyone remember the highest finish by a Team Canada's province second team?
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ShiningBowie
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Kay Zinck of NS has finished 5-6 or 6-5 behind Colleen Jones. I have not seen any higher since then that I recall
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curlerbroad
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Sorry CB but that is very unrealistic
Of course! But you never know...maybe use one the teams that lost in pre-quals...the ladies from Nunavut are a lot of fun. You need something.
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Rock Your World
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Re: Team Canada concept
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Originally posted by Frozencanuck
One problem with the team Canada concept is that very few provinces have the depth to send 2 competitive teams. Witness Manitoba this year. Can anyone remember the highest finish by a Team Canada's province second team?
Excellent question.. At the 2010 Scotties Jenny Jones was Team Canada and Jill Thurston finished 7-4 for Manitoba and lost in the tiebreaker to Krista McCarville.. So im fairly certain in the last 15 years that is the only team who was the "2nd" team to make a playoff
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| 02-24-16 01:15PM |
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ShiningBowie
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I was wrong about Zinck being the best record behind Jones out of NS. Heather Smith-Dacey finished 8th with a 6-5 record in a wall of 6-5's in 2004 with Beth Iskew and Laine Peters on her squad before they moved out to Alberta! But I had forgotten the 7-4 tie breaker for Manitoba.
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Rock Your World
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IMO Charley Thomas and Lorraine Lang have been the 2 best and most useful coaches at this STOH... Will Lorraine ignore the tension that was evident today and let it fester or will she address it after the game.. Having said that the chatter and the suggestions from the 3 young ladies on NO decreased in the 2nd half of the game after it was becoming clear Krista was losing her patience and they likely picked up on it and knew to cool it
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| 02-24-16 01:52PM |
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FollowingAlong
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Originally posted by Rock Your World
IMO Charley Thomas and Lorraine Lang have been the 2 best and most useful coaches at this STOH... Will Lorraine ignore the tension that was evident today and let it fester or will she address it after the game.. Having said that the chatter and the suggestions from the 3 young ladies on NO decreased in the 2nd half of the game after it was becoming clear Krista was losing her patience and they likely picked up on it and knew to cool it
It's definitely something Coach Lang needs to address with the NO team. First off, McCarville is asking for too much input from the other players ... too much, "What do you guys like?" Put the broom down and call the shot - McCarville has probably forgotten more about the game than the other three players know combined. And second to that, the second and the third need to start making more of the shots they're talking McCarville into playing.
Regardless, the endless chatter needs to stop and the skip needs to be able to skip the game...
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Rock Your World
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Re: 2013 Alberta
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Sweeting won AB .. when Nedohin was Team Canada
At the 2013 STOH Heather Nedohin was TC and ALberta was represented by Kristie Moore
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| 02-24-16 01:58PM |
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Rock Your World
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Good point..Families do make each other cry and Krista McCarville was visibly upset
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Rock Your World
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And second to that, the second and the third need to start making more of the shots they're talking McCarville into playing.
Lilly played well got better as the game was getting into the later stages..How many times did Jolene Campbell outright dismiss or poo poo some of Ashley Howards suggestions.. A few times
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Re: Armchair Coaches..hilarious ^^^
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Team NO are a "family affair"..
You mean like The Simpsons
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Gerry
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Re: Team Canada concept
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Originally posted by Frozencanuck
One problem with the team Canada concept is that very few provinces have the depth to send 2 competitive teams. Witness Manitoba this year. Can anyone remember the highest finish by a Team Canada's province second team?
Kerri Einarson is the 6th ranked team in Canada this season. They're easily good enough, the problem being they're all young and Scotties rookies with little experience at major events outside of Juniors.
It's going to take them some time to adjust and become comfortable. They're also no flash-in-the-pan either, losing the last two Manitoba finals prior to this year.
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curlerbroad
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Lilly played well got better as the game was getting into the later stages..How many times did Jolene Campbell outright dismiss or poo poo some of Ashley Howards suggestions.. A few times
And who won the game? Perhaps NO needs to watch AB. Chelsea will listen to her team but then call the shot SHE wants. She is great at handling that noisy Nixon. Hanna the same, I noticed that Steph will be suggesting shots a lot. But that does eat up time too.
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FollowingAlong
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Lilly played well got better as the game was getting into the later stages..How many times did Jolene Campbell outright dismiss or poo poo some of Ashley Howards suggestions.. A few times
You're taking a few good ends, perhaps even just shots, by Lilly and suggesting that makes her performance ok. For the first 5-6 games she was the 12th or 13th ranked third - just simply not good enough if you want to contend for the championship.
Can she be better? I suspect the answer is yes, but if it doesn't happen on a consistent basis then a somewhat good start (could have, perhaps even should have lost to NB and NS as well) can easily go off the rails, especially as the collar tightens later in the week.
As for Campbell poo pooing some of Howard's suggestions, that's the skip's prerogative and maybe even their job as the team's leader.
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Rock Your World
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Cheryl Bernard just said Dawn McEwen has always finished 1st perecentage wise among leads and Cheryl was almost right..In 2008 Dawn was 2nd and in 2009 Dawn was 4th..So if you include this year Dawn McEwen has been 1st in Lead perecenatge in 6 straight STOH going back to 2010..She is easily the best womens lead in the world of the last 8 years and I have only watched curling for about 15 years so I am assuming Dawn is arguably possibly the greatest female lead of all time
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| 02-24-16 04:15PM |
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misty1
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from the highlights of the alberta/quebec game we got to see it looks like marie-france let it get away. alberta was out curled in the middle and brenda had a great game, out curling amy by 6 percent. the hit in 3 i thought could have been for 2 or 3 and she only got 1. heavily over curled chances for 2 twice.
i dont know what to expect about the game against canada tonight but im almost certain she'll be 4-4.
quebec can win their final 3 games but marie-france has got to step up. her team is curling well in front of her
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misty1
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i have been most impressed with nova scotia. they sit at 5-3 but really should be 6-2 if not for letting a massive lead slip against northern ontario.
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peteski
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Big win for Saskatchewan this morning puts them in the driver's seat for the final playoff spot. Puts a lot of importance on the Saskatchewan-PEI game. It's certainly a must win for PEI, but some other teams might be rooting for them as well.
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Rock Your World
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Laine Peters might be the most under-rated. She almost always delivers a good performance. Karen Sagle from Team Hanna seems to be the best up 'n coming lead.
Yep I would agree with that.. Laine was 2nd in 2012 and 2013 STOH in lead percentage and I think she is currently 2nd
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| 02-24-16 05:22PM |
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misty1
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think ashley williamson on saskatchewan is playing brilliantly for someone who,not only hasnt been at a scotties before but a national championship of any kind.
id agree that if this team sticks together they will overtake lawton as top team in saskatchewan
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Ajay
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As a Manitoba viewer it doesn't get any better. Two games, two wins and able to view the major parts of both games.
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Frozencanuck
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Weak field
Looking at tha Workd Curling Tour's Order of Merit, I see only 11 Canadian teams in the top 20, and only 3, Jennifer Jones, (2) Chelsey Carey (10) and Kerri Einarson (16) are at the Scotties. I think it would be fair to say that women's curling in Canada is at a low point. The question is why?
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ShiningBowie
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Yep I would agree with that.. Laine was 2nd in 2012 and 2013 STOH in lead percentage and I think she is currently 2nd
Also if she wins this year it will tie her with Colleen Jones for the most Scotties championships as she won 4 with her in 1999, and 2001-2003 and then won again with Heather Nedohin. I know the first 4 were as a spare but you have to think, should Alberta make the final, Laine would be the last one to get nervous under the lights.
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Re: Weak field
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Originally posted by Frozencanuck
Looking at tha Workd Curling Tour's Order of Merit, I see only 11 Canadian teams in the top 20, and only 3, Jennifer Jones, (2) Chelsey Carey (10) and Kerri Einarson (16) are at the Scotties. I think it would be fair to say that women's curling in Canada is at a low point. The question is why?
On both the OOM and the annual OOM, Canadian teams are ranked 1,2,3. Canadian teams have also won three of the four Rogers events this year as well as the top three SFM events this year - Oakville, Stockholm and Calgary. All those spiels had strong international representation, but a Canadian team won them all.
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