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Well isn't that something great to hang on your mantle! 1-15 at next years Brier, but you can beat a senior who likely has had 2 knee replacements, That's something to be real proud of

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Personally this is my feeling. I can be very critical of professional athletes making $5,000,000 per year and give minimal effort or poor execution. ( hockey, baseball, football etc). However, most of these curlers likely make/ have made substantial sacrifices in terms of family, careers, financial to persue their curling dreams and drive to be their best. We watch and enjoy all the televised curling provided by these curlers at no cost or inconvenience to us. Hence, I find that being critical of these curlers is not deserved or warranted.

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Agree and coming after Vic and Glen have been drooling all game about how Homan has rounded out her game this year, She is still a one trick pony, Lives and dies by the take out game,

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Personally this is my feeling. I can be very critical of professional athletes making $5,000,000 per year and give minimal effort or poor execution. ( hockey, baseball, football etc). However, most of these curlers likely make/ have made substantial sacrifices in terms of family, careers, financial to persue their curling dreams and drive to be their best. We watch and enjoy all the televised curling provided by these curlers at no cost or inconvenience to us. Hence, I find that being critical of these curlers is not deserved or warranted.

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Well isn't that something great to hang on your mantle! 1-15 at next years Brier, but you can beat a senior who likely has had 2 knee replacements, That's something to be real proud of

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yes! this. i agree with everything here.

im so tired of people coming on here and saying canada doesnt do well at worlds. canada always does well at worlds. so we dont win all the time, so what. how about we give some credit to the rest of the world for getting better. and homan isnt a lock for gold anyway. she has had 3 trips to worlds (1 junior, 2 women) and didnt win the gold in any of those trips. gold is not the only color that matters, people need to get that idea out of their head.
i dont want to go back to a time when there were only 1 or 2 teams canada had to worry about that could beat them, i like the challenge that canada now faces.its good when more than 1 nation has a chance to win the title. i've said it before, do we want curling to be like womens hockey in its severe lack of depth.

agree about nationals as well. these teams are chasing their dream and for all the bitching about how bad they are i can almost guarantee they'd whip anyone sitting here.

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Chalk up another poor strategy and lose a game when you are up by 5!!?!?!??!? The latest victim is Alberta. There's reasons why I like The Brier better then The Scotties. Yikes!

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Nobody said Homan was a lock at the world's. Nobody said they want to go backwards in time when Canada had only one or two other countries to worry about.

Many fans (including me) see eight year's go by and no gold medal for our woman's teams and are rightly not happy with this result. Switzerland has won four of the past five World's and nobody is saying they have only one or two teams to worry about. These are the results we want for our teams.

And yes, in Canada when it comes to hockey and curling international gold is the only colour that matters. The majority of fans "expect" gold and are not happy with any other colour. Nothing wrong with that. This is what we are accustomed to and the men provide us gold on a semi-regular basis...we crave the same results for our female teams.

As for the level of curling we have seen for the past two year's at the Scotties....it has very much fallen off from the better games we used to see in year's past. Could just be an odd blip or could be a canary in the coal mine. When watching the Slams that include women's teams from Switzerland/Scotland/Sweden/etc I can safely say I see way more games decided by good shot loses to great shot then what I see at this year's Scotties which is bad half shot wins over atrocious miss.

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Don't know the last time SK finished last at the scotties.

If nothing else I hope Amber Holland is sitting on the bench wondering who she could recruit to build a team and save women's curling in Saskatchewan.

Has the increase in the number of Slams spoiled us viewers with higher quality curling that the scotties looks like amateur hour or have the past 2 scotties just been sad exemptions?

A good performance from Quebec thus far that I don't think anybody predicted. Can they keep it together against a couple of top teams and hold on to a playoff spot?

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Some of the shot making has definitely disappointed...is this because last year teams were curling at high percentages because of the steering brushes thus now a big let down....another thing to me is notable some of the sheets seem to be curling 5 to 6 feet...ice must be dished hog in...do they really need THAT much curl...just saying

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A bit surprised at AB losing to NS. I guess old age and treachery does trump youth and exuberance.

Now I agree the unpredictability of women's curling makes it exciting...but these teams that got lucky at their Provincials aren't so lucky at the Scotties.

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Watching ON vs Que this morning. I appreciate that we are able to have televised curling, but the verbal diarrhea of Bryan and Cathy has become unbearable. I realize broadcasters don't want "dead" air, but I wouldn't mind it.

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I like hearing the curlers discuss their shots and strategy, but not the announcers yakking non-stop. If a curler is talking, don't talk over them!

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Rachel Homan is a machine. She makes shots consistently that no other skip in Niagara can. I don't see how she doesn't sweep this field, very impressive performance so far.

Quebec just missed a double to give up another point, but she forces them to try to meet her standard or get beat by a steady stream of forces for 1.

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Rachel Homan is a machine. She makes shots consistently that no other skip in Niagara can. I don't see how she doesn't sweep this field, very impressive performance so far.

Quebec just missed a double to give up another point, but she forces them to try to meet her standard or get beat by a steady stream of forces for 1.

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Don't know the last time SK finished last at the scotties.

If nothing else I hope Amber Holland is sitting on the bench wondering who she could recruit to build a team and save women's curling in Saskatchewan.

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I think we see the fitness factor coming into play now. 11 games (more for NT) is grueling for any athlete. ANY athlete. Those who are not seriously in aggressive and methodical gym mode, year round, will be fading. Mental endurance is also critical here. And yes, the age factor for some teams. Fitness and endurance is possible during middle age - but those who do not address it scientifically and assertively will be fading now. Youth does not guarantee fitness either and even the young fillies get fatigued unless they are used to the distance. Next year - fewer games.

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Just heard some profanity slip as BC conceded, seeing the rocks leaving rings on the ice.

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Do you mean literally or figuratively? I say that because Amber Holland is their 5th.

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I read in the daily newsletter that the dehumidifier broke down yesterday leaving the ice rather tricky...would they not have a back up?

Watching some of the curling, Curling Canada should be horrified. Looks like those who play in the Slams and cash circuit do ok leaving the rest of the teams in their wake.

But to see some bad curling and wins due to misses is not what you expect at a National Championship. Not sure where the funding is going but Curling Canada may want to review the state of women's curling and offer some help to those provinces who are struggling.

Also interesting in the newsletter, Amy Nixon talking about curl-work-life balance...not sure we will see her again after the Olympic grind is over.

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Looks like Rachel will be finishing munching on fawns this a.m. - although Quebec is more like a super-fawn; might still even catch a tie-breaker. The fitness factor kicking in now as Raytch is still laser-focused while opposing skips are starting to wilt under duress and warm temps.

Raytch probably gets the real story of the 2017 event - Michelle Englot in tonite's 1st place finale - Englot doesn't have to toss a rock to still be considered the biggest story at this year's event. Simply put - Englot misses a few too many shots and makes too many half-shots to stand up to the shot-pelting Homan will subject them to. Only way Englot takes the duke is if Rachel has a really off game - I'm talking 60-65% and although its minutely possible; probably not close to probable.

I've never seen Raytch so laser-focused where the focus actually is being converted to positive results. She's in a zone. I actually think Englot has the best chance of breaking her down but Michelle's chances are very low. A bit better than JJ - whose scattered defense would leave her prown to a wipeout by RH. Sweeting would fare no better - she's now prone to mid-game collapses and fogging out!

Carey or McCarville should emerge from the 3-4 back door and the winner should have adequate momentum to take down Englot in the semi-final.

That said, what Englot did this week at age 53/54 (older than Sherry Anderson, older than Sherri Middaugh, almost as old as Coco Jones) IS SIMPLY INCREDIBLE! WHAT A COMPETITOR!!!

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I read in the daily newsletter that the dehumidifier broke down yesterday leaving the ice rather tricky...would they not have a back up?

Watching some of the curling, Curling Canada should be horrified. Looks like those who play in the Slams and cash circuit do ok leaving the rest of the teams in their wake.

But to see some bad curling and wins due to misses is not what you expect at a National Championship. Not sure where the funding is going but Curling Canada may want to review the state of women's curling and offer some help to those provinces who are struggling.

Also interesting in the newsletter, Amy Nixon talking about curl-work-life balance...not sure we will see her again after the Olympic grind is over.

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Personally this is my feeling. I can be very critical of professional athletes making $5,000,000 per year and give minimal effort or poor execution. ( hockey, baseball, football etc). However, most of these curlers likely make/ have made substantial sacrifices in terms of family, careers, financial to persue their curling dreams and drive to be their best. We watch and enjoy all the televised curling provided by these curlers at no cost or inconvenience to us. Hence, I find that being critical of these cur
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One major problem -- it was 20 degrees (by my admittedly unscientific but usually reliable car readout) when I pulled into the parking lot at 2pm. Even for Southern Ontario, that's pretty much unheard of in February...

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