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On The Nose
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Originally posted by amonavis
And sometimes things are exactly as they appear. I was at the Brier in Ottawa this past March and with me was a young university curler from Ottawa who had made the provincials mixed doubles. We were talking to Sherry Middaugh who was her usual gracious beautiful self and Homan was walking by and Sherry introduced us to her and Homan was so dismissive and rude that she acutually swung her arm as she walked away after a curt "Hi". Sherry was embarrassed by this but had no reason to be. Behind Homan was Emma Miskew who actually stopped and chatted for a few minutes and was extremely friendly and personable. No fan of Homan and after being at the Players Championship in Toronto this weekend I can tell you that I am not alone.
I'm always intrigued when people expect 'famous' people to be as happy and as giddy to meet them as they are to meet the 'famous' person.
Think of it from their perspective... constantly being asked for autographs, photos... regularly being asked to 'meet' friends of friends, etc... I can imagine it gets tiring rather quickly. And for someone who is naturally shy (as Homan has been described as being by those close to her), it's especially challenging.
I don't think it's fair to criticize people who simply choose not to put on an act and pretend to be 'happy' to meet a complete stranger whom they'll likely never speak with again in their lives.
By the way - Homan was also the first player to go and sign autographs and pose for photos with the kids immediately following her loss to Tirinzoni on Friday.
I know that 'demonizing' people attracts more attention (unfortunately)... but, given that you don't know Homan personally, it would be nice if you would at least make an honest attempt to be fair and objective.
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| 04-17-16 07:04AM |
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CURLER1
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I have seem teams lose (good teams that were supposed to win), shake hands, offer their congratulations and good luck.
Teams no better then "her highness"
Learn to lose lad, or you will come to hate the game!
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| 04-17-16 07:49AM |
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CURLER1
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Re: some perspective...
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Originally posted by HotRocks
Amazing how a couple of couch curlers .watching TV
think they know Rachel Homan and what she's thinking.
People might start appreciating just how talented Team Homan are..
probably the best Canada has ever had..
Team Homan won three consecutive Pintys Grand Slam of Curling titles this season
taking the Masters, National and Canadian Open,
and clinched the Rogers Grand Slam Cup as the overall season champions to earn a $75,000 bonus.
I bet she was happy shaking hands then, with a smile.
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| 04-17-16 08:00AM |
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CURLER1
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Re: of course ^^
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Originally posted by HotRocks
and she was very happy when she auctioned off her Worlds Jacket
for a charity that went to Toronto Sick Kids Hospital too..
Do you think she had more than one jacket?
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| 04-17-16 08:13AM |
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HotRocks
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good perspective
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Originally posted by On The Nose
Homan was also the first player to go and sign autographs and pose for photos with the kids immediately following her loss to Tirinzoni on Friday.
I know that 'demonizing' people attracts more attention (unfortunately)... but, given that you don't know Homan personally , it would be nice if you would at least make an honest attempt to be fair and objective.
Amazing how a couple of couch curlers .watching TV
think they know Rachel Homan and what she's thinking.
People might start appreciating just how talented Team Homan are..
probably the best Canada has ever had..
Team Homan won three consecutive Pintys Grand Slam of Curling titles this season
taking the Masters, National and Canadian Open,
and clinched the Rogers Grand Slam Cup as the overall season champions to earn a $75,000 bonus.
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Criticism is a projection of a critics own issues onto someone else
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| 04-17-16 08:20AM |
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Cosss
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Re: some perspective...
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Originally posted by HotRocks
Amazing how a couple of couch curlers .watching TV
think they know Rachel Homan and what she's thinking.
People might start appreciating just how talented Team Homan are..
probably the best Canada has ever had..
Team Homan won three consecutive Pintys Grand Slam of Curling titles this season
taking the Masters, National and Canadian Open,
and clinched the Rogers Grand Slam Cup as the overall season champions to earn a $75,000 bonus.
You say that Homan's team is "probably the best Canada has ever had."
Homan has to enjoy continued success for a few more years before anyone can make a claim like that. The "best Canada has ever had" in curling have to show longevity. Enjoying success when the opposition's cross hairs are fixed on you because you are a champion. Enjoying success when the years take their toll on a high level curler's body and mind. Enjoying success when team dynamics and the game change around you. Names like Martin, Howard, C. Jones, J. Jones, etc. fall into that category. Will Homan's name be added to the list? We'll see how the next few years go.
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| 04-17-16 08:41AM |
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HotRocks
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Silvana Tirinzoni
Repped Switzerland and won Gold in the Junior worlds.
I watched her battle now-world champ..Feltscher to a close second finish at Swiss playdowns..
Team Muirhead.. Vicki Adams playing third..pulled up her precision to 88% ..
in the quarters crush of Erika Brown
They just may be a bit too tough for Team Tirinzoni.. especially with Cathy O adding power to the group
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Gushue - Jacobs.. battle of the Brads.. would be an excellent final
Too bad only a fraction of Canada can watch the SF and Final
on subscribed Sportsnet 360 and ONE
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| 04-17-16 09:16AM |
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curlerbroad
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Originally posted by Prawnpuller
Seems to me Rachael dropped the ball in this game..Could of used old coach Earle Morris....Some times you just have to turn around and look at the scoreboard and play accordingly....Hmmmm up 6-2 in an eight end game and not taking off centre guards...Emma had it right but Rachael would not listen..Cudos to Einerson team they played well but Rachael's strategy cost then big time.Very easy game from my couch position.😄😄😄😁😁😁
Totally agree. Rachel's strategy was more akin to a a points bonspiel then a quarter final in a Grand Slam.
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| 04-17-16 09:54AM |
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CURLER1
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Re: good perspective
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Originally posted by HotRocks
Amazing how a couple of couch curlers .watching TV
think they know Rachel Homan and what she's thinking.
People might start appreciating just how talented Team Homan are..
probably the best Canada has ever had..
Team Homan won three consecutive Pintys Grand Slam of Curling titles this season
taking the Masters, National and Canadian Open,
and clinched the Rogers Grand Slam Cup as the overall season champions to earn a $75,000 bonus.
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Didn't say she wasn't talented. It is quite obvious what she is thinking when she hardly shakes hands or doesn't bother to with the the other team good luck.
I would not want her representing Canada and losing a game she thought she was suppose to win and just kind of slapping the oponents hand, instead of a thanks for the game and good luck!
She needs to learn how to lose. I see she was the best this weekend?
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| 04-17-16 10:30AM |
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HotRocks
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Re: Cathy O
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Originally posted by Manitoba Legend
At the same time Cathy is no longer capable of skipping and shooting 4th stones - probably not even playing 3rd stones either.
You missed the part about Cathy O teaching and coaching other curlers now
She is showing Vicki Adams ( Team Muirhead) how to be a world-class third like she was...
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| 04-17-16 12:11PM |
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Ajay
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I don't mind if they miss a called shot, but when the called shot is taking risks that can't be backed up by execution, bad strategy. McEwen good example today.
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| 04-17-16 12:23PM |
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maybo
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Originally posted by On The Nose
I would think that Homan would fully acknowledge that the Einarson team won because they were the better team in that game. I feel that's all the respect she needs to give them... she doesn't need to smile and laugh when she doesn't feel like smiling and laughing.
Homan likely feels that she lost the game more than the other team won it. This is simply a product of self-confidence, is not a lack of respect for the other team, and it is often mistaken for arrogance by those who look no deeper than the surface of things.
Mine was just a general comment and didn't target Homan or her team. Having said that, 30 seconds of sportsmanship shouldn't be too hard for an accomplished champion. But yes, some people are just wired differently. Islanders goalie Billy Smith never took part in the traditional post-series handshakes.
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| 04-17-16 12:27PM |
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rick8end
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Wow what a classy curler Einarson is. She misses her last shot and suffers a really heart-breaking loss to Jones. She briefly looks down, then goes back and collects Jones' broom and slider and goes to congratulate her. Impressive stuff from the young lady. Good luck to her in the future.
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| 04-17-16 12:37PM |
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HotRocks
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On to the Finals..
Muirhead is on a good roll..hope she wins it all
Battle of the Brads... Gushue can play against anyone ( except at a Brier)
Interesting to see if the Jacobs Team can actually finish off with a win ..
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| 04-17-16 12:51PM |
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albetts
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Originally posted by rick8end
Wow what a classy curler Einarson is. She misses her last shot and suffers a really heart-breaking loss to Jones. She briefly looks down, then goes back and collects Jones' broom and slider and goes to congratulate her. Impressive stuff from the young lady. Good luck to her in the future.
That was a really tough loss. I was hoping she'd chalk up a win against Jones. Great try though. Congrats to her and her team.
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| 04-17-16 12:54PM |
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albetts
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Re: On to the Finals..
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Originally posted by HotRocks
Muirhead is on a good roll..hope she wins it all
Battle of the Brads... Gushue can play against anyone ( except at a Brier)
Interesting to see if the Jacobs Team can actually finish off with a win ..
Hopes for Scotland here. I am so torn between the two Brads. I'll cheer for Team Gushue but applaud the great shots of Team Jacobs.
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| 04-17-16 03:57PM |
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5thstone
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Great win for Princess Eve with the super sub Cathy O. 
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| 04-17-16 04:06PM |
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maybo
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I thought that was a sensational game to watch. Congrats to Eve -- and also to Jennifer for nailing down a trials berth this week.
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| 04-17-16 04:31PM |
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decade
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I thought that was a sensational game to watch. Congrats to Eve -- and also to Jennifer for nailing down a trials berth this week.
Too bad that the only people who seemed to know how the spot would be awarded is CC .Even the announcers admitted that they had to go in search of the rules.
Typical of Curling Canada.
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| 04-17-16 04:58PM |
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dks
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It's hard on the fans when one's "hero" doesn't act the way we envision one should act. Homan may be a great curler, but, that doesn't mean she is a great person. I'm not saying she is or not, I'm saying that her personality may not be what fan's expectations of her to be. Just because someone is a good athlete doesn't automatically mean they will be a nice person. Having said this, I respect the curlers who are/appear to be nice persons. It's easy to smile when you win, but, the curling code says lose gracefully (or something like that).
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| 04-17-16 06:33PM |
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On The Nose
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Originally posted by dks
It's hard on the fans when one's "hero" doesn't act the way we envision one should act. Homan may be a great curler, but, that doesn't mean she is a great person. I'm not saying she is or not, I'm saying that her personality may not be what fan's expectations of her to be. Just because someone is a good athlete doesn't automatically mean they will be a nice person. Having said this, I respect the curlers who are/appear to be nice persons. It's easy to smile when you win, but, the curling code says lose gracefully (or something like that).
I like curlers (and people in general) who are honest, and who make no attempt to be fake or put on an act or be phony to any degree.
I have more respect for someone who shakes hands without looking their opponents in the eye because they are angry/upset/frustrated with the game/themselves than for a person who is upset/angry/ frustrated, but puts on a phony act of smiling and pretending they are not angry or upset.
I prefer a sincere representation to insincere smiles and 'congratulations' and 'good lucks' uttered just because that's what 'political correctness' expects.
Give me honesty over pretense any day - no matter what the honesty is made of.
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Ice Fan
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Originally posted by On The Nose
I like curlers (and people in general) who are honest, and who make no attempt to be fake or put on an act or be phony to any degree.
I have more respect for someone who shakes hands without looking their opponents in the eye because they are angry/upset/frustrated with the game/themselves than for a person who is upset/angry/ frustrated, but puts on a phony act of smiling and pretending they are not angry or upset.
I prefer a sincere representation to insincere smiles and 'congratulations' and 'good lucks' uttered just because that's what 'political correctness' expects.
Give me honesty over pretense any day - no matter what the honesty is made of.
Good luck with that. As far as how you prefer things, then you can be happy with an honest but conceited, snobby person because she represents herself truthfully. Again, not the person who I want representing Canada, not by any stretch of the imagination.
I will definitely pass.
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CurlingFanBigTi
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Competitive athletes in most sports are not held to the same standard of sportsmanship as curling and golf. Maybe that is why I love both so much. If we can excuse a player's decision to be less than gracious after a loss when shaking hands with the eventual winner, perhaps we should look back at the great matches between Arnie and Jack, Jack and Tom Watson. Or most recently, look at how Jordan had to present the green jacket after blowing the back 9 on Sunday at the Masters. He was deeply disappointed and yet carried out his duties to the tournament and the sport with as much class as he could. We should expect nothing less of a highly competitive curler playing on the international stage with some of the best teams in the world
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