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Did they button down or "batten down the hatches"? Maybe the ships in MB only need buttons. There were many stories swirling when Cathy O went to Charlottetown for the Scotties in the months following the ceremonial dumping. 99% of the crowd were on her side and she received a standing ovation when she beat Jones. As she usually does any time she beats her with any team she's on playing against her. What does that say?

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the average iq of the crowd = the average % of the crowd if they had been playing ...

sorry - clearly only about 5 people knew the reason for the split and them that does aint talking ... for sure there was a significant reason ....

nothing much shallower than the spare pool in competitive curling .. nedohin, overton, morris, charly thomas , casey and maybe 3 others - in the last 50 years - total.

oh and ml is usually available but not on week ends - somehow appropriately freudian

there are about 50 curling gladiators that partake in our bread and circus for the past 15 years with about 5 retirees - they make far less than the 8 announcers ... kept in the loop by the every 4 year mecca to the podium in search of " my precious " - to everyone but the faithful million 75 year old ++ viewers - the sport is unbelievably boring to watch - so the broomgates, burnt rocks, a few annoying personalities , firings and hirings, and accidents , etc provide a bit of extra interest so we will endure the slow pace of the game - " i like that shot " repeated endlessly and the mostly dreaful and repetive commercials ....

happy new year !

if anyone needs a ride home from winnipeg airport at 3:30 am just txt me - meeting the queen coming from vancouver 3.5 hrs late - better than the 4 hours late last week when she headed west. - it snowed and rained for ten days in vancouver and nanaimo where she visited .. her plane home came from edm and circled for an hour before returning to edm for 2 hours and then came back to fly her home to wpg in 2 hours -.. airlines are like farmers , its all about weather !!!

just trying to drag this delightful conversation out til abt tuesday , when the next curling starts

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FALSE PREMONITION

The theory that Jenny realized in the 2009/2010 season that
'O could not stand up to the rising threat of Miskew may be partially correct, but probably not correct at all.

Back in '09 Miskew was just 20 years of age, still in Junior curling. When Jenny played against Homan in 2007 - the only time they competed prior to the 2010 season - 'O did outcurl Miskew - so why this would cause Jenny undue concern is questionable, at best.

What must have and what should have caused her deep, deep concern was that she had just been outsmarted and outcurled by Homan, a teenager from Ottawa who at that point was too young to even qualify for the Scotties.

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curling has changed in the last ten years

you can curl 90% and lose , everybody beats everybody , with the exception of broomgate there arent many winning streaks ..The top teams have made a very obvious and conscious decision to gamble at some point in the game so they arent 1 up coming home without last brick... aka - " dakissadeath"

they need a couple of deuces or a 3 or 4 every game to win the final ...

methinks its the three , four, five rock free guard that is the great equalizer

sooooo - if the gamble end has a miss or supershot - doesnt mean you were outcurled - just means the system to have multiple winners worked...

the other equalizer that the curlers and announcers cover up is arena ice - paper falling from the ceiling , brooms pounding the pebble to backlane ice with unprdictable runs, temperature and humidity changes , multiple pics - ice crystals and sand or the magic from nowhere pics - these are particularly decisive on last rock of the last end - or drawing for 1 against 5 in the fourth.

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TDR
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Top 5 seeds:

1 - Jones
2 - Einarson
3 - Englot
4 - Meilleur
5 - Robertson

http://www.curlmanitoba.org/editori...to#.WIE6iVUrJhE

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TRD. Sounds reasonable to me.

As for the odds:

1) Jenny 1-9

2) E & E* 10-1

3) The Field 99-1

*Einarson & Englot

Let's hope for an upset!

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Draw 1 results: http://www.curlmanitoba.org/editorial;story,1890;2017-Scotties-Tournament-of-Hearts-presented-by-Monsanto-Draw-1#.WIj37lUrJhE

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Seems to me the chance of any team in the 'Express' group

winning the Scotties is slim to none - and Slim just left

the building!

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Gerry can you merge he 2 MB scotties thread into one?

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Kleibrink is still having back problems. This time, a slipped

disk.

Physiotherapists believe they will need to work on it for at

least 3 -4 days.

Nedohin will skip in the interim.

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Today will be quite interesting. Sure looks like Cheryl Reed has that 2nd spot in the Asham group. Reed was probably around the 14th seed in this event. She has to beat Briscoe, while Birchard has to beat Jones to tie for 2nd.

In the Asham Express group Einarson needs to beat Robertson to avoid a tiebreaker (I think). Englot needs to defeat Cathy OC.

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Today will be quite interesting. Sure looks like Cheryl Reed has that 2nd spot in the Asham group. Reed was probably around the 14th seed in this event. She has to beat Briscoe, while Birchard has to beat Jones to tie for 2nd.

In the Asham Express group Einarson needs to beat Robertson to avoid a tiebreaker (I think). Englot needs to defeat Cathy OC.



Jones gave her fans a mini panic attack last nite, falling behind 3-1 to the super-fawn Meilleur before raising her game and obtaining a late concession (9th end). Jones bombed the fawns for 4 ender immediately after falling behind 3-1 so that was the obvious turning point.

Birchard is fighting for her playoff life vs. Jones. That's a game I wouldn't have minded following on stream or on Shaw TV. Think Shannon has a chance - but maybe 10 or 11%, at best!

Einarson should be about 78% favourites to blow Robertson off but u never know with Kerri - she's developed a nasty case of the inconsistencies to be sure. Englot vs. Cathy O is another battle of treacherous old vets that should be televised. Might be really, really good. Cathy has nothing to play for except dragging Englot into a tie-breaker so I'd favour Cathy - but only at 51&

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have 2 free saturday and 2 free sunday passes to eric coy for Scotties
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Einarson should be about 78% favourites to blow Robertson off but u never know with Kerri - she's developed a nasty case of the inconsistencies to be sure. Englot vs. Cathy O is another battle of treacherous old vets that should be televised. Might be really, really good. Cathy has nothing to play for except dragging Englot into a tie-breaker so I'd favour Cathy - but only at 51%

Awe ML - you lost money on your odds. Four contenders in this group. Robertson has grit and if her team wants it, they can deliver. It is such a head game. Englot front end knows COC - they've curled for her. Lots of personality (friends mostly) on the ice. Good on COC for pushing through. Jones has not had to face any grit yet. NaDaDa. They probably know though.

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Too chilly out there on the ice for ya Fresky? Tempting. But I'm always slow out of the blocks for these kinds of ops. Big time waffler.

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Per CurlManitoba's twitter feed, Englot is 1st in her group, meaning she'll play Jones tonight. This presumably means that Einarson & Robertson will be in a tiebreaker for 2nd place in the Asham Express group.

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And now the Asham group will also have a tiebreaker for 2nd place - Birchard vs. Reed.

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A couple of VERY 1-sided games in the tiebreakers. Last year's champion now eliminated. So Jones vs. Englot is the 1 - 1; and Birchard vs. Robertson in the 2 - 2.

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Talking never underestimate jennifer jones

looks like kerry is eliminated
this should be an easy berth for the culing queen JJones

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So Jones must be very happy although she needs to get past Englot...

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So Jones must be very happy although she needs to get past Englot...


JJ could actually face Englot twice - although I think it could be the arse backwards way - Englot edging Big J tonite - then JJ working her way back into the final by subduing Young Birchard or Baba Robertson in the semi.

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pretty bad curling 0% for 4 ends

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Am not getting any video - but Robertson is up on Jones. I would like to see an Englot Robertson final. But, it isn't over yet.

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Am not getting any video - but Robertson is up on Jones. I would like to see an Englot Robertson final. But, it isn't over yet.


Would love to see Englot/Robertson final. Time to see some new faces and give these teams from Manitoba a glimmer of the the rest of Canada curling. I think we'd be happy with the outcome.

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Used to see better games at the Brandon/Westman SUPER-LEAGUE...

ex. Rollie McKay vs. Ray Smart

Terry Oliver vs. Teddy Bridgett

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