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02-10-14 12:56PM |
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guido
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2014 Brier
AB.- Koe
B.C.- Morris
Man.- Stoughton
N.B.- Gratton
NFLD/LAB.- Gushue
N.O.- Currie
N.S.- Murphy
Ont.- Balsdon
P.E.I.-MacKenzie
Que.- menard
Sask.- Laycock
Terr.- Koe
My picks for playoffs:
Man.
Ab.
B.C.
Nfld/Lab.
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02-10-14 02:54PM |
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It is a very good field. I believe each of these teams would have been ranked 1st or 2nd going into their provincials. Maybe Greg Balsdon would have been ranked 3rd in a tough province.
Expect a lot of good games. The ice makers like the Kamloops arena so conditions should be great. Tickets are still available. If you aren't already coming, consider making the trip.
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02-10-14 03:13PM |
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Morris
Must of been nice for JohnnyMo to ease out of BC with no competition. No wonder he moved to BC, that final was a laughfest against Montgomery.
Just like the Scotties, there probably will be 4 teams that will be the strongest...BC, MB, NFLD, AB.
& nice to hear Ray Turnball again too.
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02-10-14 03:16PM |
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Re: Morris
quote: Originally posted by Unregistered
Must of been nice for JohnnyMo to ease out of BC with no competition. No wonder he moved to BC, that final was a laughfest against Montgomery.
Just like the Scotties, there probably will be 4 teams that will be the strongest...BC, MB, NFLD, AB.
& nice to hear Ray Turnball again too.
No competition? your aware that he scraped through that page playoff game yes?
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02-10-14 03:48PM |
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Re: Re: Morris
quote: Originally posted by Unregistered
No competition? your aware that he scraped through that page playoff game yes?
Morris/Cotter may have scraped throught the Page 1-2 game and arguably should have lost considering that Pierce gave up 4 coming home when they were 3 up (hard to imagine how that happened), however, based on what I saw of the semi final game Saturday evening and the absolute dismantling of Montgomery in the final, I think the "no competition" comment was still valid.
Pierce's team not doubt had a serious let-down after what happened in the 1-2 game but they had Montgomery down 4-1 in the semi final and let them back in the game with a questionable end where Montgomery counted three to tie the game and then stole the next two ends to go up by three.
I'd be surprised if the playoff teams at the Brier are anyone other than AB, BC, MB, and NL in no particular order with perhaps a slight edge to AB and MB.
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02-10-14 03:53PM |
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guido
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Re: Re: Morris
quote: Originally posted by Unregistered
No competition? your aware that he scraped through that page playoff game yes?
That kind confirms the "no competition" statement. A half decent team wouldn't have given up 4 in the 10th when 3 up.
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02-10-14 07:38PM |
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At last year's Scotts Brad Jacobs turned into the town bully. He left a ton of very good teams layin' as he marched to the title.
With Jacobs absent the bully role will either go to Johnny Mo or Kevin Koe.....
Stoughton's recent play has been very bullifying, if not electrifying but Jeff moderates his play and actually becomes quite cautious in most Brier matches.
Goo will certainly be a factor but still doesn't have the depth in crew that some of the others have. Goo was the outstanding skip last year but just couldn't topple monsters.
Morris, Stoughton, Koe, Gushue - that would be the money quartet for page....
Menard & Grattan may push the envelope, waiting for one of the above four teams to falter.
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02-11-14 11:11AM |
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Deucey
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I agree that Koe, Stoughton, Morris and Gushue are the likely candidates for playoffs. I'm going to go out on a limb and call Morris as the winner of the round robin with stoughton 2nd, Gushue 3rd and Koe falling to a tie breaker.
Menard is always a tough call because you know the talent is there, but they aren't consistent year over year. They're always in the mix, but you don't know if they're going to pull off an upset or two that would push them into playoffs.
Balsdon is the Wild Card. First brier for him and team so will he be nervous? Or chomping at the bit to prove he belongs in the big show and would have appeared way sooner if not for Howard.
Gratton and J. Koe are in the same boat. We've seen them enough times to know that they're likely to beat up on the weaker competition and MAYBE pull off an upset. Chance at tie-breakers.
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02-11-14 11:14AM |
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Grattan might have the best team he's ever had with him as a skip. If there was ever a time when he was going to really push for a medal it would be this year.
If this team could just get out more I really feel like they'd have a shot at playoffs
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02-13-14 10:24AM |
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JB42
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This may be the most "obvious" Brier in the last ten years.
Cause 'obviously' Stoughton, Koe, Gushue, Morris are the top four contenders.
And 'obviously' Menard, Laycock, Grattan, Balsdon are the next tier.
And "obviously" J. Koe, McKenzie, Currie and Murphy have no chance at all.
Well in my 30 odd years in this game it has been my experience that the obvious happens maybe a 1/3 of the time. So the more interesting question is which of the dark horses are gonna upset the ole apple cart.
My guesses........Stoughton and Koe are quite simply the class of the field. There would have to be very long odds to get me to bet on them missing the Playoffs and they are my 1-2 picks.
Gushue carried the team through the Brier last year, and almost through the Pre-Trials. The emphasis on almost. He's my first upset pick, Gushue misses the playoffs. Who takes their place? I'm gonna go with this being the year that Steve Laycock finally raises his level and makes it into the 3
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I would like to be able to pick another upset but with Team Morris in their home province, and Jim Cotter finally having a Vice that is his equal, this team will contend.
And the winner is......well Team Koe has never missed making the Final, and has won a Grand Slam this year. Yes they blew a tire at the Trials, but they also knocked off the King of Alberta to get here so I'm gonna say that they will make the Final.
Again I'd like to pick another upset for the other side of the Finals so I'm gonna. For years I've been picking Cotter to be the dark horse that does some damage. And every year the only damage they've done is to themselves...lol...so I'd hate to be on the outside looking in if this is the year they finally break through. Morris over Stoughton in the Semi-Final.
So a Koe v Cotter Final with Koe taking it is my guess. Lord knows I've never been better than average at this in the past, this year will no doubt prove little different no matter how 'obvious' it seems from the outset.
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02-13-14 10:44AM |
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guido
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quote: Originally posted by JB42
This may be the most "obvious" Brier in the last ten years.
Cause 'obviously' Stoughton, Koe, Gushue, Morris are the top four contenders.
And 'obviously' Menard, Laycock, Grattan, Balsdon are the next tier.
And "obviously" J. Koe, McKenzie, Currie and Murphy have no chance at all.
I guess things aren't as obvious to me.
Putting a rookie in the 2nd tier above a former playoff competitor from 2 years ago, seems a bit optimistic.
"Most" rookies have the deer in the headlights look at their first brier. K. Koe being the exception.
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02-13-14 11:05AM |
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Deucey
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Sorry, but J Koe made the playoffs 2 years ago. On that alone I think he deserves to be in the "next tier" and not the "no chance" tier. His standard record is about 5-6, but is capable of the odd upset which would put him in playoff contention.
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02-13-14 12:24PM |
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nelsosi
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Re: Morris
quote: Originally posted by Unregistered
Must of been nice for JohnnyMo to ease out of BC with no competition. No wonder he moved to BC, that final was a laughfest against Montgomery.
Question: did Morris actually move to BC? I had heard that this was one of those 'questionable' eligibility things.
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02-13-14 12:47PM |
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JB42
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My guess is that J. Koe will finish under 500 and so I put him in the bottom tier. Could I be wrong? Heck, that's my norm:-) But it is my guess. We shall see what we shall see.
My tendency is to go with the teams that play the WCT. The more they play against that level, and the better they do, the more likely I am to pick them. J. Koe doesn't so I don't....pick them that is.
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02-13-14 12:50PM |
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nelsosi
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Well obviously the eligibility question was settled before the playdowns, but I heard it was a bit sketchy (though not unprecedented)
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02-13-14 12:51PM |
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guido
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Re: Re: Re: Morris
quote: Originally posted by Manitoba Legend
I don't think Morris has any concerns about the CCA confronting him about his 'residency'. What are they gonna do? Suspend the hometown favourite for the Brier?
If it was Virtue and in Regina, they might......
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02-13-14 05:25PM |
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Deucey
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quote: Originally posted by JB42
My guess is that J. Koe will finish under 500 and so I put him in the bottom tier. Could I be wrong? Heck, that's my norm:-) But it is my guess. We shall see what we shall see.
My tendency is to go with the teams that play the WCT. The more they play against that level, and the better they do, the more likely I am to pick them. J. Koe doesn't so I don't....pick them that is.
Fair points ... except JK does play the WCT. He went 0-3 at the Red Deer Curling Classic and 4-1 to qualify at the Original 16 Classic in Calgary. Ok, not exactly slam events, but he does try to get out there as much as a team from NWT can.
Grattan got out about the same amount. Same with Balsdon.
I would put Menard and Laycock in "the next tier"
Balsdon, Gratton and JK in the "underdog tier"
and I won't bother naming the "no chance tier"
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02-13-14 05:30PM |
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JB42
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to Deucey
That's actually better thought out than mine. So....what you said....:-)
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02-14-14 10:28AM |
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Deucey
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Re: to Deucey
quote: Originally posted by JB42
That's actually better thought out than mine. So....what you said....:-)
Yay, I convinced somebody! My buddy does a brier pool so I do try and do a little bit of analysis. Of course it all goes to pot when the first upset or two happens
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02-14-14 11:29AM |
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Re: Lineup Change for Manitoba Brier entry
quote: Originally posted by Manitoba Legend
Looks like Reid Carruthers will be moving down to lead and former Olympic gold medallist Mark Nichols will play 2nd at the Kelowna Brier. Here's the article from today's Wpg Free Press
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sp...-245490561.html
Holy Crap, I bought tickets for Kamloops and now they decided to move the Brier to Kelowna. Thanks ML for this timely information.
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02-14-14 02:56PM |
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Re: Lineup Change for Manitoba Brier entry
quote: Originally posted by Manitoba Legend
Looks like Reid Carruthers will be moving down to lead and former Olympic gold medallist Mark Nichols will play 2nd at the Kelowna Brier. Here's the article from today's Wpg Free Press
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sp...-245490561.html
Is this the one in fifty.
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02-14-14 06:38PM |
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Prediction Time
Top 4 are obvious.
K. Koe 10-1
Stoughton 10-1
Morris 9-2
Gushue 8-3
Laycock 6-5
Menard 5-6
Balsdon 4-7
Grattan 4-7
J. Koe 4-7
Murphy 3-8
Currie 2-9
MacKenzie 1-10
1/2 game-Koe over Stoughton
3/4 game-Morris over Gushue
semi-Morris over Stoughton
final-Koe over Morris
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