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02-03-13 01:05PM |
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murphyj87
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Really? Oh, Ok.
Oh, Ok, The NBCA Site fixed it. It said earlier that Adams had stolen 4 in 9 and had won 10-9, Someone put the 4 on the wrong side in the beginning. LOL
It started at 11:00 Atlantic Time.
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02-03-13 01:07PM |
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Oh! Okay. Was watching CZ which said 2pm start for that game - which would be NOW in NB. Must've been a mistake on CZ. Congrats to Crawford team. would like to see linescores here tho.
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02-03-13 01:39PM |
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murphyj87
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NB & NS Live scoring (for most events)
New Brunswick live scoring for their events is here
Nova Scotia live scoring is here
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02-03-13 01:57PM |
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Andrea Crawford books her spot to fill out the field. She hasnt lost a match in new brunswick playdowns in like 3 years and this year none of her games were even remotely close
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02-03-13 03:26PM |
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quote: Originally posted by murphyj87
Single game percentages may give a small clue to shot selection (on the DGR the teams get, not the media report as per sample). Teams only get a cumulative report after the fifth draw (on Sunday night, and after the last draw of the day each day thereafter) after everyone has played at least 3 games. That's the minimum considered to be statistically significant by the CCA.
I tend to look at shot selection (# of inturns, # of hits, # of outturn draws etc.) as much as, and sometimes more than, just percentages, in setting up a game plan against a team.
The 2-game percentages for the juniors are already online and at the brier teams got a CR after every game.
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02-03-13 04:00PM |
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murphyj87
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I think you're confused as to what you see online
quote: Originally posted by decade
The 2-game percentages for the juniors are already online and at the brier teams got a CR after every game.
The Statistics Reports you see online are minimal compared to what the teams and coaches get. What you see online is nothing more than the Media Report, which is very sparse in information as to be almost useless for game preparation for a team compared to the detailed reports the teams get and the media (and people online) never see.
You never see DGRs or DCRs online, and I've seen them all.
Unless it's different from the nationals where I was statistics supervisor, teams only get cumulatives (DETAILED Cumulatives that is) after 5 draws. I think you are getting DGRs, Detailed Game Reports or Positional Cumulative Reports confused with Detailed Cumulative Reports. As both a Statistics Supervisor and a coach at nationals we only gave out, and received, Detailed Cumulative Reports after 5 draws, and after the last draw every day thereafter.
The Positional Cumulative Report is really just a media frill. Joyce Myers dreamed it up and I programmed it into the program in 1984, years before the CCA got hold of my program as a template for theirs. The DCRs are the same format as the DGRs were in the old Teledata mainframe days, when all you had onsite was a dumb terminal and a printer, and all the computing was done on a mainframe in Ottawa.
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02-03-13 06:22PM |
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As the alternates are being released the one name that doesn't entirely make sense to me is Patti Hersikorn for Team Saskatchewan. Does anyone know her connection to Jill Shumay and her team?
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02-03-13 06:34PM |
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Re: I think you're confused as to what you see online
quote: Originally posted by murphyj87
The Statistics Reports you see online are minimal compared to what the teams and coaches get. What you see online is nothing more than the Media Report, which is very sparse in information as to be almost useless for game preparation for a team compared to the detailed reports the teams get and the media (and people online) never see.
You never see DGRs or DCRs online, and I've seen them all.
Unless it's different from the nationals where I was statistics supervisor, teams only get cumulatives (DETAILED Cumulatives that is) after 5 draws. I think you are getting DGRs, Detailed Game Reports or Positional Cumulative Reports confused with Detailed Cumulative Reports. As both a Statistics Supervisor and a coach at nationals we only gave out, and received, Detailed Cumulative Reports after 5 draws, and after the last draw every day thereafter.
The Positional Cumulative Report is really just a media frill. Joyce Myers dreamed it up and I programmed it into the program in 1984, years before the CCA got hold of my program as a template for theirs. The DCRs are the same format as the DGRs were in the old Teledata mainframe days, when all you had onsite was a dumb terminal and a printer, and all the computing was done on a mainframe in Ottawa.
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I have seen it all too! Don't need a history lesson either.
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02-15-13 09:51PM |
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*bumps*
Can't wait for it to start tomorrow :D
CAN-NB to start it off 2morrow
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02-16-13 08:30AM |
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My predictions of the fature games:
Draw 2 - Nova Scotia v.s Quebec
Draw 3 - Manitoba v.s British Columbia
Draw 4 - Canada v.s Prince Edward Island or Ontario v.s Yukon
Draw 5 - Nova Scotia v.s British Columbia
Draw 6 - Manitoba v.s Nova Scotia
Draw 7 - New Brunswick v.s Ontario
Draw 8 - New Brunswick v.s British Columbia
Draw 9 - British Columbia v.s Canada
Draw 10 - Canada v.s Manitoba
Draw 11 - Nova Scotia v.s NewFoundland
Draw 12 - Manitoba v.s Ontario
Draw 13 - Nova Scotia v.s Prince Edward Island
Draw 14 - Canada v.s Alberta or Ontario v.s Nova Scotia
Draw 15 - New Bruynswick v.s Nova Scotia
Draw 16 - Prince edward Island v.s Ontario
Draw 17 - Ontario v.s Canada
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02-16-13 10:20AM |
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quote: Originally posted by Manitoba Legend
I think Crawford (aka Angry Andrea) has the potential to upset Nedohin. But Nedohin is a crafty and tenacious shooter who definitely wants to get off to a fast start.
Possibly. 9 times out of 10, Nedohin would win this match up. The big factor here is rust. Nedohin's been out of competitive play for a few weeks now while the playdowns have been going on. Crawford has the advantage of being the first team to play Nedohin and can maybe capitalize on a slow start from Team Canada.
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02-16-13 10:22AM |
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bradn87
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The other big name in draw one, Rachel Homan, should rip through Devereaux like tin foil (all our draw one commentary) barring some incredibly lucky breaks. A good situation for Homan who can use this early (relatively) simple game to build momentum at the start of the event.
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02-16-13 10:41AM |
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murphyj87
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Re: Re: I think you're confused as to what you see online
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I have seen it all too! Don't need a history lesson either.
If you think that you've detailed game reports online,as you said were online for the junior, you obviously hsven't realized what you are seeing, and what you say suggests you have not "seen it all" at all. As recently as 2005, Brier and STOH teams only got detailed cumulatives after the fifth draw, and after the last draw of the day thereafter, as I said. Perhaps it may have changed since 2006, when the CCA Head Statistician changed.
I doubt that you've seen it all since 1981, as I have, when I wrote what is recognized to be the first curling statistics program on a microcomputer, and used it first, as Head Statistician, at a national in 1984.
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02-16-13 11:27AM |
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Re: Re: Re: I think you're confused as to what you see online
quote: Originally posted by murphyj87
If you think that you've detailed game reports online,as you said were online for the junior, you obviously hsven't realized what you are seeing, and what you say suggests you have not "seen it all" at all. As recently as 2005, Brier and STOH teams only got detailed cumulatives after the fifth draw, and after the last draw of the day thereafter, as I said. Perhaps it may have changed since 2006, when the CCA Head Statistician changed.
I doubt that you've seen it all since 1981, as I have, when I wrote what is recognized to be the first curling statistics program on a microcomputer, and used it first, as Head Statistician, at a national in 1984.
I think those stats were done by Alan Robinson and Kathy Dillon in Charlottetown in 84.
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02-16-13 01:22PM |
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Pre-spiel predictions
Figure I better get my prediction done before they start Draw 1.
It's going to be really interesting with the four favourites, B.C., Can, Man and Ont, finishing on top of the heap. Although I think Crawford of NB will take the extra step from last year and sneak into a tiebreaker. While Homan, Nedohin and Jones all could win it, I think the reunion of Jeana Schraeder with Kelly Scott and Sasha Carter will push B.C. over the top and give them their 3rd Scotties title.
Here are my predictions.
BC - 9-2
Man - 8-3
Ont - 8-3
Can - 7-4
NB - 7-4
NS - 6-5
NWT/YT - 5-6
Alta - 5-6
PEI - 4-7
Sask - 4-7
NL - 2-9
Que - 1-10
TB - Can def. NB
3-4 - Ont def. Can
1-2 - BC def. Man
SF - Ont def. Man
BZ - Can def. Man
F - BC def. Ont
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02-16-13 04:22PM |
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quote: Originally posted by Unregistered
Will Heather be penalized here? after all she just said **** twice on national tv
Why the #$!@ would anybody put a @#$$% mike on #$!% Nedohin during a live @#$%$# TV feed?
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02-16-13 04:34PM |
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greenroad
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quote: Originally posted by Hooper
Why the #$!@ would anybody put a @#$$% mike on #$!% Nedohin during a live @#$%$# TV feed?
Right. She used scatology in the arena. If the TV network doesn't want folks back home to hear it turn the mike off.
Athletes swear just like politicians lie.
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02-16-13 05:03PM |
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Merry Christmas?!?
Yikes, is it gift exchange day between Canada and New Brunswick? Talk about brutal on the misses made in the 10th end.
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02-16-13 05:11PM |
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Re: Merry Christmas?!?
quote: Originally posted by Unregistered
Yikes, is it gift exchange day between Canada and New Brunswick? Talk about brutal on the misses made in the 10th end.
Not, however, by Heather.
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02-16-13 05:32PM |
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quote: Originally posted by greenroad
Right. She used scatology in the arena. If the TV network doesn't want folks back home to hear it turn the mike off.
Athletes swear just like politicians lie.
My comment was more mocking the fact that schille got ejected at all
Great 2 shots by heather to bail her team out in thet final end.
Also..what a missed chance by Birt. She had a double for 3 again in the 5th end that would have given her complete control of the game against Manitoba. Instead she flashes and never really recovered
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02-16-13 05:32PM |
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quote: Originally posted by greenroad
Right. She used scatology in the arena. If the TV network doesn't want folks back home to hear it turn the mike off.
Athletes swear just like politicians lie.
My comment was more mocking the fact that schille got ejected at all
Great 2 shots by heather to bail her team out in thet final end.
Also..what a missed chance by Birt. She had a double for 3 again in the 5th end that would have given her complete control of the game against Manitoba. Instead she flashes and never really recovered
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02-16-13 06:47PM |
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Becky Atkinson basically cost the team the win, so many weird mistakes.
Tonight, Colleen Jones competes in her 21st Scotties = unreal
I'm glad TSN decided to show the bluenosers
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02-16-13 06:52PM |
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quote: Originally posted by ObsessiveCurler
Becky Atkinson basically cost the team the win, so many weird mistakes.
Tonight, Colleen Jones competes in her 21st Scotties = unreal
I'm glad TSN decided to show the bluenosers
yeah, she struggled. Becky is alot better than what she showed tonight though and you could tell that she was feeling bad about her performance anyway.
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