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AlanMacNeill (Different Alan)

I am an official, but this is not an official ruling (please understand the difference )

It is correct that there is no penalty in the book beyond "Skip only throws one". However, the clause relating to deliberately acting against the spirit of curling gives latitude to remedy extreme poor sportsmanship situations.

The first time a team had the third deliver three, oops, stuff happens and the penalty in the book is that the skip throws just one...move on. If opposing skip calls it out to me, I would inform them of this remedy and there's not much else I can or should do.

The second time, when the opposing team's skip made notice of it, I'd tell the offending team's skip that they really need to keep closer attention, because they're making the same mistake over and over and it's really unfair to the other team. Keep in mind that officials really aren't there to "call fouls", they are there to intermediate disputes, and a polite "Dude...really?" to the offending skip is the appropriate resolution at this stage.

The third time (again, assuming the offended team protested), I would refer a recommendation to the Chief Umpire of the Event for sanctions, potentially including pulling players from the game for violating the spirit of curling rule. See page 33 of the current WCF rules (C10.g: The Chief Umpire may eject a player, coach or team official from a game for what is considered to be unacceptable conduct or language. The ejected person must leave the competition area and take no further part in that game. When a player is ejected from a game, an alternate player may not be used in that game, for that player.)

If I were the Chief Umpire of the Event...the Third would be getting to take a seat in the warm room for a while on the 3rd violation.
RockDoc
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Originally posted by Unregistered
Alan,

I am not a certified referee and perhaps one could confirm my post.

No, there is no penalty if this happens. You could in theory benefit by having the hot third throw three rocks ''by mistake''.

This is not hockey. We don't need referees to catch us at fault and send us away in the corner for two minutes like we do with undisciplined children.

Curling is a gentlemen's game. Please refer to the sportsmanship section of your rule book.


Having said that, it is likely that the opposing team will catch the error before the stone is delivered. If you try to have a player deliver 3 stones deliberately, then you are violating the spirit of curling, which "influence[s] both the interpretation and the application of the rules of the game and also the conduct of all participants on and off the ice."
alancurlmwcc It is what I suspected

Thank you very much Unregistered

Alan
Unregistered Alan,

I am not a certified referee and perhaps one could confirm my post.

No, there is no penalty if this happens. You could in theory benefit by having the hot third throw three rocks ''by mistake''.

This is not hockey. We don't need referees to catch us at fault and send us away in the corner for two minutes like we do with undisciplined children.

Curling is a gentlemen's game. Please refer to the sportsmanship section of your rule book.
Alancurlmwcc I had this game where the third on the opposing team threw 3 rocks leaving 1 for the skip during a game. Rule from CCA states

If a player on a four player team delivers three stones in one end, except as
provided for in Rule 5(6), the end shall continue and the fourth player on the
offending team shall deliver only one stone in that end.

The problem is there does not seem to be a penalty when it is the third that does it.

So if my third is hot and and I am cold I could get him to play 3 rocks and I throw the last rock?????

What is the penalty please anyone

Thank you

Alan

Curling Scores

M: Korean National Curling Championship
Gangneung, KOR
Teams | Scores | Standings | Playoffs
Draw: CF -- Mon, Jun 17 -- 4:00am ET
Park 5  Final
Lee 10  (9)
M: Morioka City Mens Memorial Cup
Morioka, JPN
Teams | Scores | Standings | Playoffs
Draw: CF -- Sun, Jun 16 -- 1:45am ET
Hasegawa 6  Final
Segawa 3  (7)
Shikano 2  Final
Fujii 6  (7)
W: Korean National Curling Championship
Gangneung, KOR
Teams | Scores | Standings | Playoffs
Draw: CF -- Sun, Jun 16 -- 11:00pm ET
Ha 5  Final
Gim 6  (EE)
M: Obihiro ICE Gold Cup
Obihiro, JPN
Teams | Scores | Standings | Playoffs
Draw: CF -- Sun, Jun 9 -- 1:00am ET
Iida 6  Final
Shibatani 3  (8)
Hasegawa 1  Final
Hirata 16  (5)
W: Obihiro ICE Gold Cup
Obihiro, JPN
Teams | Scores | Standings | Playoffs
Draw: CF -- Sun, Jun 9 -- 1:00am ET
Tabata 6  Final
Kawamura 4  (8)
Ogihara 8  Final
Nakagawa 3  (7)
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