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Not sure if I'm reading the scores right but Ulsrud lost the final to Walstad. Curious if Walstad goes to worlds or if Norway has it like other countries where they just nominate a team regardless of the winner. Anyone know?

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According to the Curling News' Facebook post, Ulsrud still goes to worlds.

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According to the Curling News' Facebook post, Ulsrud still goes to worlds.

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Too bad really because as much as I like the Ulsrud team, I think it's good for everyone to have some new teams get a chance. Especially when they've won their championship.

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From the sound of things, the way it works in Norway is that teams need to have some success on Tour to be eligible for Worlds Qualification.

The team needed a minimum of 1 QF and 1 SF appearance to be eligible for a chance at Worlds, which would have setup a best of three tournament between Minera Skifer and Ulsrud for the right to go to the World Championship.

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im not a fan of that kid of thing. this is more than likely the team that will be the face of norway once ulsrud steps down. why not let them get some experience at a major championship here. they have to start somewhere

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im not a fan of that kid of thing. this is more than likely the team that will be the face of norway once ulsrud steps down. why not let them get some experience at a major championship here. they have to start somewhere

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Ah, but since sacrosanct Olympic qualifying points (I.E., money) are on the line, nobody can afford to send a less experienced team. Come on, didn't you know??

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From the sound of things, the way it works in Norway is that teams need to have some success on Tour to be eligible for Worlds Qualification.

The team needed a minimum of 1 QF and 1 SF appearance to be eligible for a chance at Worlds, which would have setup a best of three tournament between Minera Skifer and Ulsrud for the right to go to the World Championship.

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Ah, but since sacrosanct Olympic qualifying points (I.E., money) are on the line, nobody can afford to send a less experienced team. Come on, didn't you know??

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Imagine if every province did that this year for the Scotties....
Rachel got to go because of her incredible year.....
MacDonald....
Sweeting...
etc
Rather than the winning teams....
But the pool of talent in Norway is much smaller, and Ulsrud has represented them well over the years...

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Ulsrud lost 1 game in this NOR championship
It was to Walstad - 6-5...

He also won World silver in 2015 ... World Gold in 2014...

Seems like Norwegians should be the ones who make the decisions about their rep...
they dont try and tell Canada what to do...

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Ulsrud lost 1 game in this NOR championship
It was to Walstad - 6-5...

He also won World silver in 2015 ... World Gold in 2014...

Seems like Norwegians should be the ones who make the decisions about their rep...
they dont try and tell Canada what to do...

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true but you mention that ulsrud lost only one game in the nationals.guess how many walstad lost? - none

walstad hasnt been to any pro events yet but thats because they wont let them go

not questioning ulsrud's pedigree. he's ione of the best teams tyo ever come out of europe but at some point they might want to give other teams showing promise a chance. sweden did that with sending eriksson to worlds over edin in 2013 and look how great that worked out.

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Won't let them go to other events? The team played 8 events on Tour including 2 in Canada and 1 in Japan.
http://curlingzone.com/teams.php?te...&profileid=5975

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walstad hasnt been to any pro events yet but thats because they wont let them go

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im not talking about cashpiels im talking about major international events.i would think that would be obvious. especially since i referenced sweden sending eriksson to worlds in 2013

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We have the US sending its men's runnerup, the Germans sending a women's 3rd or 4th (?) place team, and now Norway also sending its men's runnerup. We'll never know which country would've won had all sent their on-ice when-it-counts national champion instead of some teams essentially picked by a committee.

As a little kid I remember the Olympics as a bit of a farce pitting real or secretly supported amateurs v. overt professionals supported by national federations. Now we have for curling a small group of full-time professionals, an ever dwindling handful of real amateurs thanks to the sanctioned cash circuit demands, and more semi-professionals supported by their national federations which edit eligibility rules to try to ensure their National Team gets to worlds in the chase for Olympic lucre.

It's the "good" old days of the Soviet and DDR sports machines when "stakes were high" we got chicanery like crazy doping, dubious equipment, paid coaches picking world reps whom they deem "coachable" and "attractive" to TV advertisers, national team players willing to compete where and whenever the national coaches want (forget family or work life), shifting rules favoring the favorites, and other things the level playing fields of sports are supposed to eliminate.

The purpose of Big TV-Curling appears now just to sell the "legal" brooms, other sponsors' products, ensure only some countries get Olympic berths every four years, all overseen by a few dozen national paid coaches and compensated NGB and WCF leaders with an ever increasing number of paid professional players because - oh heck - the Spirit of Curling is dead as a doornail in this new professional curling world.

I'll go watch the movie about Eddie the Eagle and muse about what movie might be made about the next Winter Olympics.

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Baden Masters-Switzerland
Swiss Cup Basel-Switzerland
Direct Horizontal Drilling Classic
Canada Inns Classic
Curling Masters Champery-Switzerland
Karuizawa International-Japan
Mercure Perth Masters-Scotland
German Masters-Germany

41 Games, 5 countries a 19-22 record.

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We have the US sending its men's runnerup, the Germans sending a women's 3rd or 4th (?) place team, and now Norway also sending its men's runnerup. We'll never know which country would've won had all sent their on-ice when-it-counts national champion instead of some teams essentially picked by a committee.

As a little kid I remember the Olympics as a bit of a farce pitting real or secretly supported amateurs v. overt professionals supported by national federations. Now we have for curling a small group of full-time professionals, an ever dwindling handful of real amateurs thanks to the sanctioned cash circuit demands, and more semi-professionals supported by their national federations which edit eligibility rules to try to ensure their National Team gets to worlds in the chase for Olympic lucre.

It's the "good" old days of the Soviet and DDR sports machines when "stakes were high" we got chicanery like crazy doping, dubious equipment, paid coaches picking world reps whom they deem "coachable" and "attractive" to TV advertisers, national team players willing to compete where and whenever the national coaches want (forget family or work life), shifting rules favoring the favorites, and other things the level playing fields of sports are supposed to eliminate.

The purpose of Big TV-Curling appears now just to sell the "legal" brooms, other sponsors' products, ensure only some countries get Olympic berths every four years, all overseen by a few dozen national paid coaches and compensated NGB and WCF leaders with an ever increasing number of paid professional players because - oh heck - the Spirit of Curling is dead as a doornail in this new professional curling world.

I'll go watch the movie about Eddie the Eagle and muse about what movie might be made about the next Winter Olympics.

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Excellent point. Why bother with a championship if you already know who you are sending. In the case of Germany, Andrea can win every event she enters, they still won't send her team to Worlds.

World curling Federation can make a rule - whoever wins your National Championship can go to Worlds.

But that won't happen...

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As a little kid I remember the Olympics as a bit of a farce pitting real or secretly supported amateurs v. overt professionals supported by national federations. Now we have for curling a small group of full-time professionals, an ever dwindling handful of real amateurs thanks to the sanctioned cash circuit demands, and more semi-professionals supported by their national federations which edit eligibility rules to try to ensure their National Team gets to worlds in the chase for Olympic lucre.

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Why bother? So you can be the National champion, get funding from your Ministry of Sports, prove you are the best team in the country.

Like the USA all the participants know the rules. They needed at QF and a SF to qualify with the win, but they got 3 QF's and lost 2 of those by one rock. They are all around 25 years old an have a bright future, I'd say.

Last time Brady Clark go hot and won Nationals a ninth place finish meant we had to go to Germany to the qualifier to reclaim our Olympic spot.

With the money in the Olympics and China and other countries sending professionals everyone needs to make sure they have the team with the best chance at Worlds. I would say the USA and Norway accomplished this.

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you have to be fair to brady. he finished 5-6 and got unlucky that that year, would finish 9th.

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