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| 12-04-16 03:29PM |
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5thstone
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Its Friday all over again. Homan can't keep up with the Jones's. *oyy* Likely game over in a hurry minus a complete melt down from Jones.
Now, can we get Spring back to Brandon? We didn't get Winter til The Canada Cup showed up?
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| 12-04-16 03:36PM |
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curlerbroad
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I think team Homan need a coach...but it is early however they seem rather vulnerable this season
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| 12-04-16 04:14PM |
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nelski
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well... just watching linescores... but seems like a slaughter. Jones is etching her name back in - if there was any doubt. Homan does need a reThink. Good reward for Team Jones. Can't say much bad, sage pays off. These women are clearly fit and focused. Still 4 ends to go,though. (edit: 3 point margin, down from 6, on 8th end. dddrrrummm roll.)
I would like to know how the foursey happened. TeamH =>Easy misses at 3rd and skip? TeamJ =>Solid follow up at 3rd and skip? Hope this end gets posted.
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| 12-04-16 05:14PM |
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decade
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Originally posted by curlerbroad u
I think team Homan need a coach...but it is early however they seem rather vulnerable this season
Agree with you. Homan needs to beg Earl to come back. Wonder how much the psych doc gets from CC to sit on bench and look bored.
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| 12-04-16 05:38PM |
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misty1
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Congrats to team Jones. While I would have liked to see a team who actually needed this win to guarantee a trials spot that died when einarson lost in the semis . You can't deny that Jones didn't deserve this. They looked the bet team there from the start.
As for Homan..it's obvious they aren't themselves. Something jut seems a little off. Now, obviously they are still having a good season but they just don't seem themselves this year. They are making more mistakes. I'm not ready to blame it on the down though
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| 12-04-16 07:56PM |
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guido
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Originally posted by decade
Agree with you. Homan needs to beg Earl to come back. Wonder how much the psych doc gets from CC to sit on bench and look bored.
Homan doesn't "need" anything. They are world class curlers. They have done well in all the tournaments they have entered. They had one bad shot in the wrong end to do it in. Cost them the win. Credit to Jones on making a good shot with her last to make Homans last shot very tough. Sometimes the rocks don't end up in your favor.
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| 12-04-16 08:00PM |
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Ajay
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I would hope Earl would not return after she publicly embarrassed him.
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| 12-04-16 09:50PM |
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5thstone
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Originally posted by guido
Homan doesn't "need" anything. They are world class curlers. They have done well in all the tournaments they have entered. They had one bad shot in the wrong end to do it in. Cost them the win. Credit to Jones on making a good shot with her last to make Homans last shot very tough. Sometimes the rocks don't end up in your favor.
Of the games this season that I watched Homan, minus yesterday, she looks too human. As a team, they are missing the flare and almost automatic dominance that she had. To be fair about it, a fair number of Women teams stepped up their game to another level.
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| 12-04-16 11:30PM |
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prairie guy
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It has been a remarkable run for the Gushue team and Mark stepped up big time. However, Mark also is so ready to go back to third and have Brad skipping. Can't take anything away from Carruthers they were the deserving champs; and with their personalities they should be a good fit for mixed doubles at the Continental Cup.
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| 12-04-16 11:52PM |
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guido
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Remarkable for sure. Mark has always been a world class third. Would have been the best second in the world if Stoughton would not have wasted his abilities at lead. Saying this, Skip is not Marks best position. IMHO he went too hard for the steal in 9. With a third that is a spare, not going to disagree with his calls. I' m fairly confident Brad would have called a hit and roll, or at the very least, a double. Worst case scenario would be 2 down coming home with. Mark put all his eggs in a basket with his last shot in the ninth. Just a non-legends unimportant observance.
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| 12-05-16 12:46AM |
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Steviewondering
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Originally posted by Manitoba Legend
WOW - Congrats to Mountain Man Reid Carruthers and his squad. Remarkable play during a tough week vs. astoundingly good competition.
Reid has gradually morphed from a serviceable championship front-ender to a TRUE MONSTER OF CURLING. Same with B Moskowy - one of our great 3rds - very good, spunky and solid front end, too!
I don't think there's any doubt now who the top monster in Manitoba is! Hint: Its NOT Mighty Mike!
Reid and his crew played very much like they did in the Manitoba final back in 2015. Looked like they had the same confidence and energy this evening as they did back in 2015.
Give McEwen the respect he deserves though. Go back and look at the line scores from this week 1 more made shot in two of those games and they are in the playoffs. Carruthers and McEwen are the top dogs of Manitoba. Its curling, whoever plays better that day is going to win.
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| 12-05-16 06:16AM |
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UnattachedFC
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There's one thing we can say about the men's Trials next year, there won't be any major favourites. I would give each of the teams we've seen this week between 5 and 15% to be Team Canada. That's crazy when you believe that a favourite at a 9 team tournament has a 15% chance of winning, but that is how close those teams are.
I think on the women's side, we've seen the class of Jennifer Jones. I thought that they were playing well before, but Jennifer had still some amount of rust, but now she's playing like an Olympic Gold Medal winner. I still wonder what is going to happen to Homan. Perhaps, they played too few bonspiels. I'm guessing that they'll play more next year in the bonspiel season knowing how well they did, but maybe not as much as last year, but somewhere in between. The goal for her team for next year is to find the perfect balance.
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| 12-05-16 09:50AM |
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HotRocks
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 Team Homan
This Team has 2 -first and 2-runner ups this season .. better winning record than Jones
Joanne played very well this event..but gotta wonder if Emma is still doing her 2 hours a day practices..curling 63%..doesnt help Rachel at all
Jones totally outskipped Homan this event..
Rachel better check in on some strategy upgrades...or at least analyze why they were so badly clobbered in the Final
The Boost NATIONAL starts already tomorrow ( Dec 6)..
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| 12-05-16 10:24AM |
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HotRocks
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 not the only team
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Originally posted by Manitoba Legend
For a team that now lives thousands of miles apart
Both Rachel and Joanne have husbands living in Alberta...
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| 12-05-16 12:10PM |
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nelsosi
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Originally posted by guido
aying this, Skip is not Marks best position. IMHO he went too hard for the steal in 9. With a third that is a spare, not going to disagree with his calls. I' m fairly confident Brad would have called a hit and roll, or at the very least, a double. Worst case scenario would be 2 down coming home with. Mark put all his eggs in a basket with his last shot in the ninth.
Not dumping on Mark, as I have been really impressed by his play. But, I thought the same thing as you as I watched that 9th end unfold. Mark's final shot call was basically an all-or-nothing, and it didn't need to be.
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| 12-05-16 12:25PM |
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biterbar
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Originally posted by nelski
well... just watching linescores... but seems like a slaughter. Jones is etching her name back in - if there was any doubt. Homan does need a reThink. Good reward for Team Jones. Can't say much bad, sage pays off. These women are clearly fit and focused. Still 4 ends to go,though. (edit: 3 point margin, down from 6, on 8th end. dddrrrummm roll.)
I would like to know how the foursey happened. TeamH =>Easy misses at 3rd and skip? TeamJ =>Solid follow up at 3rd and skip? Hope this end gets posted.
Watched the ESPN replay of the first three ends. With the sound off (sitting in a quiet coffee shop, forgot my earphones) I had no idea what shot they were calling on Homan's hammer shot in the third. The obvious shot was a soft hit on a 90% open shot on her left side of the four foot. On the shot she took the broom placement, the sweep call, the final result are all a mystery to me. When I get home I will watch the third again for the announcers perspective.
Is the change in the broom head making as big a difference as this it seemed this weekend? So many missed shots IMO compared to last year. I would like to see the percentages this year compared to last years big tournaments.
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| 12-05-16 12:34PM |
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nelsosi
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Originally posted by biterbar
Watched the ESPN replay of the first three ends. With the sound off (sitting in a quiet coffee shop, forgot my earphones) I had no idea what shot they were calling on Homan's hammer shot in the third. The obvious shot was a soft hit on a 90% open shot on her left side of the four foot. On the shot she took the broom placement, the sweep call, the final result are all a mystery to me. When I get home I will watch the third again for the announcers perspective.
I watched the TSN broadcast live, and I still don't know what shot she was actually playing. I'm not sure the announcers knew either.
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| 12-05-16 12:36PM |
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nelsosi
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Is the change in the broom head making as big a difference as this it seemed this weekend?
100% yes
It was discussed quite a few times during the TSN coverage.
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| 12-05-16 12:57PM |
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biterbar
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Originally posted by nelsosi
100% yes
It was discussed quite a few times during the TSN coverage.
So the "Elites" opened the Pandora's Box last year and are now paying the consequences with poorer sweeping abilities. I wonder how many would love to have their EQ and Norway heads and go back to 2014.
Meanwhile at my club we must live with directional sweeping with all of the most effective heads and methods. Some of those farm kids can move the hell out of a stone both ways.
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| 12-05-16 01:40PM |
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nelsosi
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So the "Elites" opened the Pandora's Box last year and are now paying the consequences with poorer sweeping abilities. I wonder how many would love to have their EQ and Norway heads and go back to 2014.
I don't think any of the 'elites' are complaining. It's an equal playing field now. It was ridiculous last year - you could miss a shot pretty badly and your sweepers could make it for you.
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| 12-05-16 02:00PM |
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Deliverer
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While curling fans in Manitoba seem to be delirious with joy in celebrating Jones' victory at the Canada Cup, the remainder of Canada can only point to Homan's pathetic record to date in the 2016-2017 season:
Sept.'16 Won Shorty Jenkins Classic
Oct.'16 Won Canad Inns Woman's Classic
Oct.'16 Finalist in Pinty's Grand Slam
Nov.'16 QF in Pinty's Tour Challenge
Dec.'16 Finalist in Canada Cup
This follows a fairly successful 2015/16 season in which their objective was to compete in and win every possible major 'spiel possible starting in September. As you may possibly know, they ended up winning seven (7) events including 3 grand slams, the Canada Cup and becoming the greatest money winner ever on the Women's World Curling Tour.
Most of Team Homan's fans are aware that their prime objective this year is not to participate in every major 'spiel; it's to peak for the Scotties and for the Worlds. And for the 2017/18 season, it's to peak for the Trials and for the Olympics. This plan was in place 6 months ago and is still in place today. Res Ipsa Loquitor.
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| 12-05-16 02:12PM |
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biterbar
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Re: Wrong again
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Originally posted by HotRocks
name one.. Curling has gone back to emphasis on shot-making
the conflicts between curlers over abrasive broom materials did nothing for the game..
I realize no one want's to go back to directional sweeping, my point was in 2014 they had great broom technology, no joy sticking and now they are required to use less effective heads to sweep with.
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