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02-28-15 06:52PM |
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misty1
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it was a weird game newfoundland controlled the whole thing and then had one bad end that gave steve a shot for 4 which he missed.
steve had a huge miss with his first in the 10th that gave brad the opening for the win
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02-28-15 07:25PM |
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CaptMorgan
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Boo Hoo
quote: Originally posted by 5thstone
In short, relegation does nothing to make curling stronger but instead makes curling an elite sport.
It adds one more top Canadian team to the Brier and drops one that wouldn’t even get a sniff at a playoff spot.
If you think that the Brier should be a bunch of teams that are just happy to be there and are not the country’s best, then do not expect to beat China, Sweden, Norway et al.
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02-28-15 07:43PM |
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Statman
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The Brier never has been "the best teams in the country," it was intended for the best team in each province. That promoted healthy provincial rivalries and gave the Brier its subtle, arcane but unique qualities. Now it's becoming a veritable "tour" event, and that's something it shouldn't even try to emulate.
Besides, two Alberta teams in the final would certainly not be in the spirit of the Brier's traditions.
Even the record book is going to be trivialized and compromised. Manitoba tops the table at the moment with 27 Championships, with Alberta in second on 26. So if Morris manages to win, the title does not go to Alberta, it goes to a "non-provincial" entity known as Team Canada.
PS: Although you don't strike me as someone with an open mind, I would suggest you buy and read Bob Weeks' excellent Brier history: "The Brier." He captures why we love the traditional Brier.
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02-28-15 07:56PM |
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misty1
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quote: Originally posted by Manitoba Legend
Tough first outing for Steve. Had Goo by the short hairs and cut him free.
Probably takes it out on Carruthers tonite.
Reid is pretty expressionless but very disappointed he had Morris in his sites and failed to pull the trigger.
0-2 isn't DEAD MAN'S TRAIL - but it sure helps set the tone!
honestly with the way that game went newfoundland would have been more disappointed with the loss. saskatchewan was always chasing with the exception of the 8th end when they got 3. i think the better team won in the end
and i agree that 0-2 isnt dead but in this field its a bad thing to do to dig a little hole early
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02-28-15 08:30PM |
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CurlingRH
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quote: Originally posted by Manitoba Legend
Carruthers & co. put up some quality fight in first 6 or 7 ends but they're dying on the vine now. Johnny Mo poised to close them out after 9 - certainly in 10.
Reid took control of the scoreboard with his deuce in 3 and held it until he gave up the steal in 7. He could have taken control right back in 8, but chose to go for the knock-out 4 and missed. Had he taken the easy tap-back deuce, he's up 1 without in 9 ... almost home free. That shot was worth the risk in the 3rd end, not in the 8th down 1.
Too bad, because Manitoba played a solid game ... certainly good enough to win. Big game tonight. Manitoba can lose to Canada, Northern Ontario and Alberta because they're probably going to be there at the end. More than one loss to the rest of the pack is probably too many.
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02-28-15 08:31PM |
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5thstone
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Boo Hoo
quote: Originally posted by CaptMorgan
It adds one more top Canadian team to the Brier and drops one that wouldn’t even get a sniff at a playoff spot.
If you think that the Brier should be a bunch of teams that are just happy to be there and are not the country’s best, then do not expect to beat China, Sweden, Norway et al.
We are already have lost to China, Norway et al thanks partially to our talent helping them out and to them to have money from their government to play in our world curling events. So your point is quite frankly is mute. That's not all a bad thing at all. Having said that, the David Murdoch's et al would have a hard time getting out of Manitoba and Alberta play downs especially as they do lose to the part time touring teams a fair bit.
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02-28-15 08:37PM |
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sternwheeler
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yes and Islanders everywhere are
quote: Originally posted by misty1
pei qualifies for the brier
breathing a sigh of relief Casey and crew are in the Brier
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02-28-15 09:13PM |
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Sasquatch
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Wow it's weird seeing Brent Laing wearing Alberta colours instead of Ontario.
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02-28-15 09:30PM |
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Guest
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quote: Originally posted by Statman
Nothing about this contrived manouver smells right.
You misspelled, manure.
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02-28-15 10:14PM |
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Guest
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Boo Hoo
quote: Originally posted by 5thstone
We are already have lost to China, Norway et al thanks partially to our talent helping them out and to them to have money from their government to play in our world curling events. So your point quite frankly is mute.
Moot, the word is moot, not mute. I only wish Captain Morgan were mute.
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02-28-15 10:24PM |
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Ajay
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I think the Briar could continue as an all inclusive canadian event. This relegation stinks and if they want more entries include them in some foremat. The big problem for me given the competitive nature and professionalism of teams spawned by the Olympic attraction is that our canadian representative can no longer come from the briar. As noted some of Canada's best teams are not here. With the further expansion of slams and top level tournaments where all our best teams participate, it would be very easy and fair to pick our best team. The briar concept and all its history would continue with all its records and concepts in tact.
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02-28-15 11:28PM |
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sternwheeler
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Casey and boys tied up,
with Ontario playing the tenth end, good finish for PEI
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02-28-15 11:45PM |
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Sasquatch
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Re: Casey and boys tied up,
quote: Originally posted by sternwheeler
with Ontario playing the tenth end, good finish for PEI
Heartbreaker for PEI. Did the stone pick or did he just throw it that tight and/or light?
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02-28-15 11:59PM |
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misty1
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thats a real heart breaker for pei. they battled back so hard.adam looked so dejected after it
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03-01-15 12:05AM |
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Sasquatch
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I'm so happy that BC won after how loud the crowd was during Cotter's last 4 shots.
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03-01-15 01:01AM |
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CaptMorgan
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Boo Hoo
quote: Originally posted by Guest
Moot, the word is moot, not mute. I only wish Captain Morgan were mute.
Ditto, though I have an opinion. You just have pointless babble.
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03-01-15 01:08AM |
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CaptMorgan
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I love how people here defend the inclusion of mediocre teams to the Brier because of tradition.
Let’s go back even further to more tradition and make everyone own their own stones and play 12 end games.
No more push brooms, everyone must use corn brooms whilst smoking!
Tradition, phffft!
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03-01-15 06:16AM |
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murphyj87
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quote: Originally posted by CaptMorgan
I love how people here defend the inclusion of mediocre teams to the Brier because of tradition.
Let’s go back even further to more tradition and make everyone own their own stones and play 12 end games.
No more push brooms, everyone must use corn brooms whilst smoking!
Tradition, phffft!
Apparently you would consider Mark Dacey's team "mediocre" in 2003 also at the beginning of the week (before they beat Ferby to win the Brier). You cant tell which province will win the Brier until they all play in the Brier for the week. You would consider Jack McDuff "mediocre" and due for relegation at the beginning of the week of the 1976 Brier too (until he won the Brier).
You would consider Reid Carruthers not "mediocre" but they have started 0-2 and at this rate may go 0-11, and Manitoba's not "mediocre" team (in your opinion) might just get Manitoba into the relegation round at the rate they're going.
Nova Scotia has won more Briers than PEI, New Brunswick, NWT, Newfoundland and Quebec, yet PEI, New Brunswick, NWT, Newfoundland and Quebec are all curling in the Brier this week despite wining far fewer Briers than Nova Scotia.
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03-01-15 07:37AM |
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Claire Marie
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Great game by Team Kean considering they are so young. Here's hoping they can win a few more. Good for B.C. too, knocking off the favorites amidst all the hype about the "all star" team. This was a day of good curling, so much better than the ladies I hate to say.
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03-01-15 09:27AM |
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Curl401
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Nova Scotia has been in every Brier played since 1927 ...88 years not counting the World War 2 Years when it wasn't played.
It's a sad day for Nova Scotia Curing,A Sad day for MacLeod Burgess and team and a sad day for Canadian Curling. For all those Curling administrators who don't have any idea how difficult it is to win a Brier spot...shame on you. I have represented NS at more than one Brier and to think of the hard work,the hours put in....the years of paying club dues.....to win a Brier spot and then be told to sit out!
IT IS WRONG.
Shame on the CCA for not finding a way to run a 14 team week.
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03-01-15 09:34AM |
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Curl401
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Manitoba is 0-2 after day 1.
Let's all cheer for the Bison Boys to implode this week and be stuck in relegation next year. Then we will all see how Mediocre feels.
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03-01-15 09:38AM |
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misty1
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jim was a really good sport about the heckling last night but thats just disrespectful and not a part of our sport. hockey maybe, tennis sure but not curling and what happened last night was fross.
on a more positive note it was a good win for team kean. pei will have the morning off so they can recover from that. adam looked just so lost after that miss. i know it must hurt him in particular because he was brilliant and lutch all night. he made a ton of great draws to save ends for pei.
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