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02-17-15 01:09PM |
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Jimbobogie
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quote: Originally posted by curlerbroad
Why were there no draws this morning/ Civic lunch? Give the girls a break?
Maybe they were celebrating "Family Day" late into the night...
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02-17-15 05:55PM |
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curlerbroad
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BC look completely lost...& Ontario brought in their 5th to play 10. BC might be in relegation if they don't win a few more.
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02-17-15 10:00PM |
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Love2Curl
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Wow that big meanie Rachel scores a 6 ender against the Newfies. She will be in cruise control now.
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02-17-15 10:05PM |
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curlerbroad
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quote: Originally posted by Manitoba Legend
O my - Val appears out of sorts this evening - giving up an early deuce to Patty (BC).....its a long week!
Meanwhile, Rachel appears back in form - administering a typical Homan-like whipping & bombing of Heather Strong!
Sask. still hangin' in there. They'll gradually overpower an over-matched Nova Scotia squad.
Watch out for Mary Anne tomorrow, though. Her entire Scotties will be her match with Manitoba - the last member of the infamous Coco Jones Gang - trying to TKO Jones again!
Not to worry, looks like Val is back in control. NL no match for a TC out to prove something, Mary Anne needs her team to help out a bit more if she wants to beat the ML favourites...
5 down after 9 & BC still didn't want to concede to ON this afternoon.
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02-18-15 12:22AM |
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nenslow
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I don't know about Mary-Anne not being into the games... She seems to be invested, just missing a few shots.
Speaking of her, Nice to see TSN is featuring her again tomorrow morning for NS vs MB
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02-18-15 03:51AM |
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milobloom
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Re: Richard Hart
quote: Originally posted by Senior Skip
The idiot Hart just cost Rachael her winning streak by suggesting she draw in the tenth. Why even give Jennifer the runback when the double peel would have pretty much assured victory. As Russ said the first rule of curling is "control the front"
Check out my thoughts in my new CWM article: Jones vs Homan XV:
http://curlwithmath.blogspot.ca/201...s-homan-xv.html
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02-18-15 06:59AM |
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Island Roger
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quote: Originally posted by JB42
Women's curling is more interesting cause there is a limit to there 'rocket' speed.
Wow .......... That is an interesting thought. I'd say its more interesting because anything can happen due to diminished talents and no lead is safe.
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02-18-15 07:51AM |
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Grief for Richard
Originally posted by Senior Skip
The idiot Hart just cost Rachael her winning streak by suggesting she draw in the tenth. Why even give Jennifer the runback when the double peel would have pretty much assured victory. As Russ said the first rule of curling is "control the front"
Don't forget it was a suggestion and Homan still had the final call. AND the called shot was full 8 half buried which would have made the runback much much harder than the straight runback. As it was, the double run and roll over to tap shot 2 was not Jones' call either, just a fortunate outcome.
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02-18-15 08:17AM |
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misty1
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quote: Originally posted by Manitoba Legend
I didn't think Val would lose to the BC girls. Val had to make a nice final stone to finish out BC.
Surprised H. Strong managed to score 5 pts. against the mean girls.
Mary Anne sure donated a game to the Saskatchewan cause tonight. Mary Anne doesn't seem to be into the games as much as Coco or Kimbo were!
she is invested, its clear to see. did you not notice how disappointed she was after she was heavy on her final draw last night?
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02-18-15 08:43AM |
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curlerbroad
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quote: Originally posted by misty1
she is invested, its clear to see. did you not notice how disappointed she was after she was heavy on her final draw last night?
I wouldn't say heavy but it was overswept. There was conflicting yeses & no's from both ends. Had the sweepers let up a bit sooner, it would have been perfect.
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02-18-15 08:55AM |
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RockDoc
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Re: Re: Richard Hart
quote: Originally posted by milobloom
Check out my thoughts in my new CWM article: Jones vs Homan XV:
http://curlwithmath.blogspot.ca/201...s-homan-xv.html
Thanks! In the 9th, even if Jones is not sure of being shot (say 50% chance of winning the measure) isn't the draw for 1 or 2 still the percentage call? I assume the draw is made 90% of the time, which requires the double to be made with a high percentage to come out even in WE.
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02-18-15 09:26AM |
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RockDoc
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quote: Originally posted by Manitoba Legend
If Jones, Homan and Sweeting all end up in a 10-1 first place triangle and they all end up beating each other
WHO GETS FIRST AND SECOND PLACE?
Doesn't it then go to DSC? Tough way to make 3rd.
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02-18-15 09:40AM |
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misty1
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quote: Originally posted by Manitoba Legend
Here's the deal. Mary Anne basically handed Stef Lawton the game. A pure donation pure and simple.
Lawton was shot stone on a loaded button - the only place Arsenault couldn't put the rock was where it end up. The smart play was preventative dentistry that enabled her to go an extra end - WITH LAST ROCK.
So the play was either house-biter guarding the button (forcing Lawton wide) or dragging it to a Top 4 position.
MAA either doesn't have brushers who can judge weight (or her 3rd and herself can't play safe)
She would have been better off boarding her last rock than putting it where it was. Lawton would have had to draw a piece of the button to win it - the way Stef was drawing she probably has at least a 70% chance of making it (her sweepers know how to judge weight and so does Sherry Anderson)
So many trips to the show for Mary Anne - both as a front-ender and skip - you'd think she'd know what to do!
However, I have a feeling she'll put her heart 'n soul into the Jones game this a.m. - if Jones goes anywhere near "out of sorts" mode Mary Anne could pull off a giant upset.
ease off mary anne. im sure she more than anyone knew she couldnt have put it in a worse spot. as curlerboroad said though it was more a sweeping error than her error.
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02-18-15 10:09AM |
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nelsosi
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quote: Originally posted by misty1
ease off mary anne. im sure she more than anyone knew she couldnt have put it in a worse spot. as curlerboroad said though it was more a sweeping error than her error.
That was a sweeping error. MaryAnne seemed pretty ticked with her frontend after the shot, and they knew it.
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02-18-15 10:48AM |
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milobloom
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Re: Re: Re: Richard Hart
quote: Originally posted by RockDoc
Thanks! In the 9th, even if Jones is not sure of being shot (say 50% chance of winning the measure) isn't the draw for 1 or 2 still the percentage call? I assume the draw is made 90% of the time, which requires the double to be made with a high percentage to come out even in WE.
From my view I never saw a chance at scoring three. It seemed that to make the double, Jennifer would roll her shooter out of play and score two anyway. In that case, she needs to make the hit the same, or more often than the draw to the eight foot. Unless ice conditions were a problem, the draw is the right call.
Also not sure what Jennifer was thinking earlier in the end, creating piles of rocks in the centre behind cover. Dumbfounding when you are tied with hammer in the 9th end.
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02-18-15 11:26AM |
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WrongHandle
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Anyone know where to find the statistical reports for the Scotties Draws?
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02-18-15 01:25PM |
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nelski
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Chagrin Chagrin. ML Predicted that win.
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02-18-15 01:36PM |
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jzwanzig
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quote: Originally posted by Hack Weight
TSN has decided to torture viewers with NB vs NS this afternoon. It's too bad AB, MB and TC can't just play a quadruple round robin.
Oopsy daisy, Nova Scotia 9, Manitoba 6, guess that's why they play the game--
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02-18-15 02:02PM |
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Jimbobogie
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I think there's a provision that says every rink gets at least one TV game. That used to mean that you'd see the Territories on Sunday morning.
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02-18-15 02:14PM |
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Sean
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Great to see the bluenosers upset the favs from Manitoba. Maybe that'll quiet Russ and Vic up about how bad Maritimers are at curling for a day.
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02-18-15 03:04PM |
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Netz
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quote: Originally posted by fresca
memo to TSN good coverage
couple of minor suggestions
less face shots , less overheads , MORE from the shooting end to see how the guards line up and what shot makes most sense
and draw back on the rolling rock - need to see the guards and where the rock is heading ( shoot from behind the rock ) - also helps to see the amount of curl
Agree the coverage is great and appreciated but enough of the arena vs club ice and how it comes into play on every second shot. Enough already.
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02-18-15 03:20PM |
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mcgregorm89
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quote: Originally posted by Manitoba Legend
Actually I think its great for curling to have a veteran like Mary Anne teamed with a bunch of fawns knock off an Olympic champion every once in a while. Makes it look attainable and gives everyone hope.
Hope they can put in a decent effort vs. The Mean Girls this afternoon. Nothing like chopping down JJ and then getting sand-blasted in your next outing!
It makes it more entertaining as well more competition instead of three teams dominating the tournament. I like Homan but I hope NS puts up another good fight.
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02-18-15 03:58PM |
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InTurnDump
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quote: Originally posted by Manitoba Legend
Jones has barfed up two sub 70% games in a row. Not a good sign. She got off the hook vs. Homan cuz of Rich Hart's coaching botch-up but Mary Anne cut them down to size.
Is it me or is Jones screaming at shriek levels never heard before on some of her mis-guided shots?
She keeps turning in 70% games and she might be hard pressed to make the page - that's the kind of percentages the newbies like Loren Mann and Patti Knezevic and New Brunwick are putting in. I definitely don't see her slithering by Valberta with this kind of curling!!!
Was watching the game with the lady the other day and she asked if Jones was knocked up. I feel like Women in general have a 6th sense when it comes to this type of thing
Haven't heard anything but the timing would be right w/ the Oly's a few years away still
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02-18-15 04:01PM |
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misty1
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quote: Originally posted by Manitoba Legend
Actually I think its great for curling to have a veteran like Mary Anne teamed with a bunch of fawns knock off an Olympic champion every once in a while. Makes it look attainable and gives everyone hope.
Hope they can put in a decent effort vs. The Mean Girls this afternoon. Nothing like chopping down JJ and then getting sand-blasted in your next outing!
i agree, its great to see team step up, take their chances and get a huge win. Nova scotia could easily be 5-3 right now. they had tight games against saskatchewan and pei that they could have won. the difference here was that they took their chances
i think that we will see teams at the bottom, desperate to avoid relegation pull off some upsets on unsuspecting top teams toward the end. so teams that have their eyes on the playoffs might have to watch out for teams like new brunswick, BC and quebec now
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02-18-15 04:01PM |
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misty1
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quote: Originally posted by Manitoba Legend
Actually I think its great for curling to have a veteran like Mary Anne teamed with a bunch of fawns knock off an Olympic champion every once in a while. Makes it look attainable and gives everyone hope.
Hope they can put in a decent effort vs. The Mean Girls this afternoon. Nothing like chopping down JJ and then getting sand-blasted in your next outing!
i agree, its great to see team step up, take their chances and get a huge win. Nova scotia could easily be 5-3 right now. they had tight games against saskatchewan and pei that they could have won. the difference here was that they took their chances
i think that we will see teams at the bottom, desperate to avoid relegation pull off some upsets on unsuspecting top teams toward the end. so teams that have their eyes on the playoffs might have to watch out for teams like new brunswick, BC and quebec now
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