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11-15-20 08:03PM
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Exhibition Curling

Since the window for competitive curling continues to close I would personally like to see media outlets like CBC, CTV, TSN, Sportsnet, Facebook, Youtube, etc. come to the stage and devise (in conjunction with the curling authorities) a series of "Challenge Matches" for TV presentation.

Curlers are floundering, wondering whether they have to gain points, try to find obscure spiels across the land to score CTRS points. Not a good feeling.
Exhibitions???

Imagine:

Jennifer Jones vs. Rachel Homan
Rachel Homan vs. Kerri EInarson
Einarson vs. Scheidegger
McCarville vs. Jones

et al, et al, et al

Lots of good TV matches on the men's side:

Gushue vs Koe
Jacobs vs McEwen
Bottcher vs Laycock
Howard vs. Gushue
et al
Perhaps a game of the week over the next few weeks - in a bubble, either Calgary or Toronto
Curling audiences are exceptionally loyal. Really great chance that TV could make really decent money with good prize-money left for the curlers & their sponsors.

Worth a try?
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11-15-20 08:35PM
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There are already exhibition matches being played with internet streaming.

Homan played a Sunday morning 6-end skins game vs Bottcher, for example (minus Karrick, plus Don Bartlett). Dad Craig and Reid Carruthers commentating. Very difficult ice, but still an enjoyable game to watch, and has plenty of insider insights from commentators (e.g. Wilkes goes way back with Homan & Miskew from ON junior era).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrdu5-QPafY

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Not sure if it's possible ML. With many provinces struggling with record covid numbers, the last thing the athletes should do is put themselves and families and general public at risk by travelling. Using Gushue as the example, if he travels outside the Atlantic bubble they have to self isolate 14 day on return. Same for incoming teams, isolate 14 days before they can play. That's why Gushue has been using NL juniors to sub for Walker the last month. Not conducive for travel/play/isolation etc etc

I do however enjoy the replays tsn and sportsnet have played of past slams and championships. I'd even like to see them dust off the games of yesteryear like 80's Russ Howard in the McCain skins games, or Ed Werenich at the Brier(sp?) Good times.

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Too bad no one has full-game footage from the halcyon era of the 40s, 50s, 60s & early to mid 70s.

Love to see full-games with the Richardsons, Watsons, Don Duguid, Terry Braunstein, Matt Baldwin, Owl Northcott, Rick Folk, Harvey Mazinke, Alan Hackner, Kerry Burtnyk 1981, Orest Meleschuk, Barry Fry, Bob Pickering, Eddy the Wrench, The Howards, Ferbey 4, Paddy Ryan, Billy Walsh, Billy Rose, etc.

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Too bad no one has full-game footage from the halcyon era of the 40s, 50s, 60s & early to mid 70s.

You talk of these eras with such fondness. Could you elaborate on what made it so great? I thought the bygone eras were terrible by comparison because the ice was horrible (even without cornbrooms), and there were no FGZ rules so it's just a peeling game for the most part.

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You talk of these eras with such fondness. Could you elaborate on what made it so great? I thought the bygone eras were terrible by comparison because the ice was horrible (even without cornbrooms), and there were no FGZ rules so it's just a peeling game for the most part.



To the contrary. . . . the bygone eras were loaded with mystery and intrigue. Sure, the ice was rarely perfect but it was the same for both teams. I remember watching the opening draw of the 1970 Brier in Winnipeg - the feature game was Alberta Potato Farmer Hector Gervais vs. Don Duguid, who was strongly coaxed out of retirement to skip Rod Hunter, Jim Pettapiece & Woody Wood. There were 8,500+ rabid curling fans in the stands, the ice was wet & melting. Both Duguid + Hec needed 12 - 15 ft of ice to complete draws to the sides.

But it was 12 ends of sheer fun with the cigarette smoking potato farmer finding devious ways to hang on against the clean-cut and powerful Duguid from the Granite CC. Came down to the final couple rocks as Duguid outlasted the former Canadian champion - and the rest is history.

To say everything was a peeling game is a misnomer. Yes, the Richardsons dominated canadian curling for 5 or 6 yrs - with their vicious hitting style but once they were exposed and injuries forced them to weight adjust, teams like Bronko Braunstein, Bruce Hudson, Ron Northcott, Lyall Dagg & Alfie Phillips held court in canadian curling with a variety of styles - from chap 'n lie to aggressive draw-only games.

One other thing - when the Richardsons were vanquished from the scene (in both Sask'n and Canada) the workbook on top level curling, even top level club curling all of it was derivative of Ken Watson's great 1950 tome on curling - "KEN WATSON ON CURLING" . . .Manitoba even produced a few teams that couldn't even throw hack weight but won Manitoba (Bobby Robinson in 1969)

Let me say this - Terry Braunstein was a really good skip, but never more than a 70-75% shooter, even the immortal Duguid was an 80% shooter at best. Nothing close to today's monster shooters who routinely curl in the 83 to 95% zone.

However, give our current crop of Gushue, Koe, Jacobs, McEwen, Bottcher, Fry, Epping, etc. the same inconsistent & erratic ice of the 1940s thru 1960s and I think most of them wouldn't be 70% men.

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11-16-20 02:01PM
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There are bad ice everywhere even nowadays, if that's what you mean by mystery and intrigue.

One example I recall is the 2013 Shorty Jenkins game between Homan and Ott. Homan dropped a 4 in 1st end. Would've been 6 if Ott didn't take out her own stones ("Holy ****! That was ****ing horrible!")

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdjG_fDZzhg&t=14m18s

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By the way, from amongst the names you listed, at least a couple has full games on YouTube.

Rick Folk vs Kevin Martin, 1994 Skins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2ACQTpnpMg

Ed Werenich vs Kevin Martin, 1997 Trials
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqMBg_Mhft8

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You can also watch archival footage of Ken Watson if that floats your boat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpe...F50CE579061FD9E

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