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Notable Canadian Junior Curlers since 2001

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In the last 20 years there have 200 top rated juniors

How many are still playing



This is a quick list of curlers I've compiled, who made an appearance in Canadian Juniors from 2001 until now, along with a notable recent appearance in elite-level curling in current Olympic cycle (after 2018).

There are going to be notable omissions, especially since I got too lazy at the end. There are 160+ names here.

There may be minor errors. Please correct me with references to something verifiable.

2001 Marc Kennedy 2021 Brier
2001 Mike McEwen 2021 Brier
2001 Brad Gushue 2021 Brier
2001 Mark Nichols 2021 Brier
2001 Jamie Murphy 2020 Brier
2001 Alli Flaxey 2018 ON
2002 Tyrel Griffith 2021 CAN MD
2002 Ben Hebert 2021 Brier
2002 Dustin Kidby 2021 Brier
2002 Martin Crete 2021 Brier
2002 Andrea Crawford 2020 Scotties
2002 Krista McCarville 2020 Scotties
2002 Robyn MacPhee 2018 Scotties
2002 Jolene Campbell 2019 CAN MD
2003 Cary-Anne McTaggart 2019 Scotties
2003 Steph LeDrew 2018 Scotties
2003 Meaghan Hughes 2021 Scotties
2003 Marliese Kasner 2019 Scotties
2003 Darren Moulding 2021 WMCC
2003 Reid Carruthers 2021 Brier
2003 Mark Bice 2019 ON
2003 Steve Laycock 2021 Brier
2004 Chris Schille 2018 Brier
2004 BJ Neufeld 2021 Brier
2004 John Epping 2021 Brier
2004 Brett Gallant 2021 Brier
2004 Stacie Curtis 2018 Scotties
2004 Jill Brothers 2021 Scotties
2005 Brad Jacobs 2021 Brier
2005 Sarah Wark 2021 Scotties
2005 DJ Kidby 2018 AB
2005 Julie Devereaux 2020 Scotties
2005 Tracy Fleury 2021 GSOC
2005 Amanda Gates 2021 Scotties
2005 Jennifer Wylie 2018 Scotties
2005 Robyn Silvernagle 2020 Scotties
2005 Karen Trines 2018 Scotties
2006 Geoff Walker 2021 Brier
2006 Adam Casey 2021 Brier
2006 Anson Carmody 2019 Brier
2006 Ashley Howard 2020 SK
2006 Jennifer Brine 2021 Scotties
2006 Lisa Farnell 2019 Euros
2006 Charley Thomas 2018 AB
2007 Mick Lizmore 2018 AB
2007 Ryan Harnden 2021 Brier
2007 Kalynn Park 2018 CWC2 MD
2007 Jessie Hunkin 2020 Scotties
2007 Joanne Courtney 2021 Scotties
2007 Dailene Pewarchuk 2020 Scotties
2007 Megan Koehler 2018 Scotties
2007 Marie Christianson 2021 Scotties
2007 Jennifer Baxter 2020 Scotties
2007 Hollie Duncan 2018 Scotties
2007 Erin Carmody 2021 Scotties
2007 Val Sweeting 2021 WWCC
2007 Chelsea Duncan 2020 Scotties
2007 Sarah Koltun 2020 Scotties
2008 Kaitlyn Lawes 2021 Scotties
2008 Jenna Loder 2021 Scotties
2008 Aaron Sluchinski 2021 CAN MD
2008 Colin Hodgson 2021 Brier
2008 Dallan Muyres 2019 Brier
2008 Liz Fyfe 2021 Scotties
2008 Ashley Sippala 2020 Scotties
2008 Sarah Potts 2019 Scotties
2008 Danielle Inglis 2021 Scotties
2008 Stephanie Schmidt 2020 Scotties
2009 Breanne Knapp 2021 Scotties
2009 Robbie Doherty 2019 Brier
2009 Casey Scheidegger 2019 Scotties
2009 Jessie Haughian 2019 Scotties
2009 Jillian Babin 2020 Scotties
2009 Kendra Lilly 2020 Scotties
2009 Jen Gates 2020 Scotties
2009 Rachel Homan 2021 Scotties
2009 Emma Miskew 2021 Scotties
2009 Lynn Kreviazuk 2018 ON
2010 Laura Walker 2021 Scotties
2010 Brendan Bottcher 2021 WMCC
2010 Brad Thiessen 2021 WMCC
2010 Alex Forrest 2020 Brier
2010 Connor Njegovan 2021 Brier
2010 Josh Barry 2018 Brier
2010 Braeden Moskowy 2021 Brier
2010 Nadine Scotland 2020 Scotties
2010 Briane Meilleur 2021 WWCC
2010 Krysten Karwacki 2021 WWCC
2010 Sarah Fullerton 2018 Scotties
2010 Michelle McQuaid 2021 Scotties
2011 Stuart Thompson 2019 Brier
2011 Mathew Camm 2021 Brier
2011 Scott Howard 2021 Brier
2011 David Mathers 2021 Brier
2011 Colton Flasch 2020 Brier
2011 Kirk Muyres 2021 Brier
2011 Clancy Grandy 2021 Scotties
2011 Sarah Wilkes 2021 Scotties
2012 Colton Lott 2021 CAN MD
2012 Kyle Doering 2020 MB
2012 Félix Asselin 2021 Brier
2012 Jocelyn Peterman 2021 Scotties
2012 Brittany Tran 2021 CAN MD
2012 Kalia Van Osch 2018 Scotties
2012 Selena Njegovan 2021 Scotties
2012 Shannon Birchard 2021 WWCC
2012 Kristin MacCuish 2021 Scotties
2012 Jennifer Armstrong 2020 Scotties
2012 Erica Curtis 2020 Scotties
2012 Jamie Sinclair 2019 WWCC
2012 Kristen Streifel 2020 SK
2013 Matt Dunstone 2021 Brier
2013 Corryn Brown 2021 Scotties
2013 Erin Pincott 2021 Scotties
2013 Samantha Fisher 2021 Scotties
2013 Katie Forward 2020 Scotties
2013 Sadie Pinksen 2021 Scotties
2013 Christianne West 2018 Scotties
2014 Braden Calvert 2020 MB
2014 Kyle Kurz 2020 MB
2014 Tanner Horgan 2020 MB
2014 Kelsey Rocque 2020 AB
2014 Taylor McDonald 2021 Scotties
2014 Sarah Daniels 2020 BC
2014 Sarah Hill 2021 Scotties
2014 Krysta Burns 2021 Scotties
2014 Sara Guy 2021 Scotties
2014 Karlee Burgess 2021 Scotties
2015 Karsten Sturmay 2020 AB
2015 Greg Smith 2021 Brier
2015 Ryan McNeil Lamswood 2021 Brier
2015 Connor Lawes 2021 CAN MD
2015 Tyler Smith 2021 Brier
2015 Émile Asselin 2020 Brier
2015 Danielle Schmiemann 2021 CAN MD
2015 Beth Peterson 2021 Scotties
2015 Émilia Gagné 2018 Scotties
2015 Marie-Pier Harvey 2018 Scotties
2016 Tyler Tardi 2021 Brier
2016 Selena Sturmay 2019 WJCC
2016 Dezaray Hawes 2021 Scotties
2016 Kira Brunton 2021 Scotties
2016 Kristin Clarke 2020 Scotties
2016 Cynthia St-Georges 2021 Scotties
2016 Laurie St-Georges 2021 Scotties
2016 Emily Riley 2021 Scotties
2017 Sterling Middleton 2020 BC
2017 Jordan Tardi 2020 BC
2017 J. T. Ryan 2020 MB
2017 Megan Smith 2021 Scotties
2017 Jacques Gauthier 2021 Brier
2017 Hailey Armstrong 2021 Scotties
2017 Lauren Lenentine 2021 Scotties
2017 Kaitlyn Jones 2018 WJCC
2018 Colin Kurz 2019 WMxCC
2018 Brendan Bilawka 2019 WMxCC
2018 Lindsey Burgess 2018 WJCC
2019 Abby Marks 2019 WJCC
2019 Kate Goodhelpsen 2019 WJCC
2019 Paige Papley 2019 WJCC
2019 Jordan Peters 2020 WJCC
2019 Mackenzie Zacharias 2021 Scotties
2019 Emily Zacharias 2021 Scotties
2020 Brayden Payette 2020 WJCC
2020 Zack Bilawka 2020 WJCC

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It's a veritable who's who of present-day Canadian curling.

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It's a veritable who's who of present-day Canadian curling.

There's a couple of names there that are notably NOT Canadian curling anymore.

Jamie Sinclair has and still is committed to representing USA.

Lisa Farnell represented England at last 3 European Championships (2017, 2018, 2019).

There are cooldown periods in the rules, so they won't be representing Canada any time in near future.

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Gotta a feeling that Fresca and

ML are WAAAAAAAAAAAAY In

over heads once again and it's

not just this thread!

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The suggestion that a huge portion of promising Canadian junior curlers are not joining adult competitive curling is provably false. Of course people of that age should be allowed to discover themselves and pursue their dreams, whatever those may be, but as far as curling is concerned, there's a healthy amount that have joined the adult competitive curling scene.

I can only think of one name that is often brought up as a promising young curler that decided to retire: Mary Fay. Old reports state that she decided to pursue academics in medicine, which I think most people would agree is more important than curling, pandemic aside.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova...-game-1.3561306

She left behind Kristin Clarke, Karlee Burgess, and Janique LeBlanc.

Karlee Burgess picked up 2 more World Junior golds, plus a silver and a bronze, and played in 2021 Scotties.

Kristin Clarke picked up 1 more World Junior gold, and played in 2020 Scotties.

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I would venture to say that every top curler in every province was once a junior. I don’t see the argument. Because some former juniors have not advanced in men’s or women’s does not mean that they no longer curl.

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I would venture to say that every top curler in every province was once a junior.

There are some famous exceptions, e.g. Chelsea Carey, who was personally advised by another famous exception, i.e. Dave Nedohin. Nowadays she's inarguably a top curler, but there was a period in her life where she lamented the fact that she didn't win anything in juniors.

I recommend giving her Stone & Straw podcast episode a listen.

https://stoneandstraw.libsyn.com/s01e02-chelsea-carey
At 26m30s: "When we got knocked out at my last junior provincials, when I was aging out, I was devastated!"

All episodes are highly recommended.

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And I could be wrong (please correct me!), but I think Kerri Einarson was never a top junior curler either.

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If they made it to provincials, I would consider them a top junior curler.

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quote:
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Gotta a feeling that Fresca and

ML are WAAAAAAAAAAAAY In

over heads once again and it's

not just this thread!



I love it when folks like Fresca and ML are crushed by facts. And Curlingclips you CRUSHED them.

Of course when lies and false information here in the the States are proved false (usually in the political spectrum) I am told "well, you have your opinion and I have mine".

Keep up the good work CC!

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The chirp of the crickets is deafening.

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CurlingZone has a limited time window for editing posts, and it has expired, so I can't add to my original list.

I've since found a notable omission:

2009 Erin Porter 2020 Scotties

5x Scotties (2013, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2020)
2020 CAN Mixed
2013 & 2016 CAN MD

This is already a long list, which is why I didn't try hard to make it complete (it's far from it). This particular omission needed to be addressed, however, because she is quite a decorated curler.

Also, Sandra Schmirler's daughter Sara England competed in 2017, 2018 & 2019 CAN Jrs. She teamed up with an un-retired Michelle Englot in 2020.

https://leaderpost.com/sports/curli...irlers-daughter

They played in 2020 SK playdown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ7IK2zdDRg&t=16m38s

Let me know if there are other notable omissions.

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Abt 10 of the men on the list have won worlds or olympic

3 teams

Probably hasnt helped curling in
Canada ( its north of Minneapolis )

Tv has sucked the blood out of curling - when the old folk are gone tv will drop it like a stone

Btw i have watched about 75 of the men named - good curlers - just think they deserved a fairer playing field and would have liked to see them win the brier

Have you ever played in a curling game ?

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Abt 10 of the men on the list have won worlds or olympic


You keep moving the goalposts, but I'll oblige.

There may be some omissions here, but these people have won Worlds or Olympics, and are still active players in current Olympic cycle.

Marc Kennedy (2010 OWG, 2008 WMCC, 2016 WMCC)
Ben Hebert (+ 2003 WJCC)

Brad Gushue
Mark Nichols (2001 WJCC, 2006 OWG, 2017 WMCC)
Brett Gallant (2017 WMCC)
Geoff Walker (2006 WJCC, 2007 WJCC, 2017 WMCC)

Charley Thomas (2006 WJCC)

Brad Jacobs
Ryan Harnden (2014 OWG)

Brendan Bottcher (2012 WJCC)

Steve Laycock (2003 WJCC)

DJ Kidby
Dustin Kidby (2005 WJCC)

Braden Calvert
Colton Lott
Kyle Kurz (2015 WJCC)

Jordan Tardi (2018 WJCC)
Tyler Tardi (+ 2019 WJCC)

Colin Kurz
Brendan Bilawka (2019 WMxCC)

Sterling Middleton
Alex Horvath
Matthew Hall
Rylan Kleiter (2019 WJCC)

Jordan Peters
Brayden Payette
Zack Bilawka (2020 WJCC)
Jacques Gauthier (+ 2018 WJCC)

All of these people are still active curlers in current cycle. The latest World Junior champs, for example, played in 2020 MB playdown, and were invited to 2020 Champions Cup Grand Slam (before it was cancelled). Previous year's champs played in 2020 BC and 2019 SK playdowns.

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Have you ever played in a curling game ?


No I haven't, but that doesn't preclude me from contributing in an open-minded discussion on curling and forming informed opinions using verifiable facts.

I'm honestly not sure what point it is that you're trying to make. If you can formulate something thoughtful and factual, we can discuss your concerns.

You mentioned "juniors" and "old folk". Let's start there. What is your concern with regards to junior curlers and old folk aging out/retiring?

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I've compiled a list of episodes of Inside Curling podcast (Kevin Martin, Warren Hansen) that may be relevant to the topic.

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https://podcast.sportsnet.ca/inside...eas-for-change/
33: The State of Curling in Canada: The Challenges, Direction, and Ideas For Change

This week the boys talk about the state of curling in Canada, along with the USA and the rest of the world. [...] The guys discuss some great ideas on how the sports can win back the under 40 crowd. Without doing that, Canadian curling is in trouble.

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https://podcast.sportsnet.ca/inside...bout-the-sport/
37: What Tomorrow's Champions Are Saying Today About the Sport

19 year old Tyler Powell joins us on the show, part of the next generation of excellent young Canadian curlers and excited to discuss the state of curling. Tyler is a multi-sport athlete and also, among other things, the 2019 Canadian U18 silver medalist. He has some great perspective on what matters to younger curlers and some interesting takes about the sport's current image problem. We also discuss how curling needs to look at further promotion of the sport on social media where the next generation spends so much of their time. Is the future of curling actually mixed doubles? There's an age divide in curling. While there are calls for a change in the structure of championship curling, the majority of the over 40 crowd favour the status quo. [...]

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https://podcast.sportsnet.ca/inside...t-corryn-brown/
39: Why Does the Junior Curling Season Have to End So Early? And Our Special Guest: Corryn Brown

This week, we're joined by Kamloops skip Corryn Brown, former Canadian Junior Champion, whose team will represent B.C. at the Scotties for a second straight year. [...] Corryn also jumps in on our discussion about junior curling and changing the qualification strategy. Also, some possible solutions on how we elongate the junior season, which ends so darn early. [...] We discuss how the under-25 curling crowd is loving mixed doubles and what everyone loves about Skins Games.

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https://podcast.sportsnet.ca/inside...curling-canada/
44: The State of Canadian Junior Curling with Our Guest, Helen Radford from Curling Canada

Our guest is Helen Radford, Curling Canada Manager of Youth Curling and NextGen. We discuss the state of youth curling in Canada including: - Curling Canada's new U15 Rockfest and the NextGen program which helps lay the foundation for Canada's future champions. - Are doubles and triples the key to keeping our top young athletes in the sport? - How do get we exposure to curling added to school curriculums - Are there enough good coaches to instruct kids - Curling Canada is working with at least a couple of apps under development. [...]

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https://podcast.sportsnet.ca/inside...ment-of-hearts/
45: We're Talking Scotties! The 2021 Scotties Tournament of Hearts

Tanner Horgan joins us with a young curler's take on the state of curling in Canada and the 3 changes he'd like to see.

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I'm just guessing that your topic of concern is somewhere along these lines. If I'm mistaken, then I apologize, and you can clearly state what it is that concerns you, and we can start from there.

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quote:
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If they made it to provincials, I would consider them a top junior curler.

Meghan Walter is a pleasantly odd case, and probably proves your point.

Walter chasing elusive junior curling title
https://www.brandonsun.com/sports/c...-568581511.html

She has never won MB Jr provincial. But she won the 2019 World Mixed Curling Championship when she was just a 17 year old. She had to beat Kerri Einarson's team to get out of MB.

//edit: CORRECTION!

That news article was written while the 2020 U18 MB was going on. She ended up winning that event.

https://curlmanitoba.org/about-comp...mpetitions/4582
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/...163079848490032

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fresca has no point, never has. His spelling and coherency depends on how deep he is into that bottle of Canadian Mist or on a special day Forty Creek.

You on the other hand are very concise, astute, fact based and informative. More so than he or the "Legend".

Speaking of ML, you have made more factual points than he has in his combined 12,740 (and counting) posts.

And did I say how much I love your YouTube posts?

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fresca has no point, never has.

I actually think he does have some, but it's not clear because he does ramble incoherently with incomplete sentences at times.

Elsewhere he lamented that top curlers still need a second job, as if it's an inherently bad thing.

I agree that it does sound crazy that Sven Michel, for example, is a bricklayer.

That's right! The 2 time world champions in mixed doubles, 2 time bronze medalist in World Men's, has a job laying bricks!

Now, I don't know anything about that job, how laborious/how much it pays/etc., but that does sound kind of crazy on first impression!

Thankfully, as far as I know, no top curler has ever gone broke due to poor financial situation in curling. Sometimes they have to choose between curling and other things, but everyone have to make tough choices in life, so that in itself is not a bad thing.

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Mike McEwen did take a huge financial risk when he quit his job to get more serious in curling, I think just to get one step closer to getting into Canada Cup? I don't remember the details. But it's a funny story in retrospect, since he was already married to Dawn at the time.

Turned out well for him, obviously.

https://stoneandstraw.libsyn.com/s02e05-mike-mcewen

//edit: yup, starts at 16m50s

He quit his job to go compete in John Shea Insurance Canada Cup Qualifier in 2007-2008, lost to Koe in the final, still qualified anyway.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_..._Cup_of_Curling

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