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10-21-19 11:25PM
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When did TV vertically flip the overhead shot of the house?

I'm a new curling fan (2017). I've seen a few historical videos from the past where the overhead shot of the house is vertically flipped from what is commonly shown nowadays. That is, instead of the rock coming from the top of the screen to the bottom, it goes up from the bottom of the screen to the top.

Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svDsqgxplmg&t=1m

It sort of makes sense to me, because even now, sometimes we see the house from the hack's perspective, so seeing it overhead from the same orientation seems somewhat consistent.

I know there are some older fans here, so can someone tell me about the time when they transitioned from one to the other and flipped the overhead house shot? Were there stories/news articles written about this? I imagine that there must've been quite the debate about which orientation is the 'correct' one, and you're literally turning the house upside down, so it must've been quite a decision that was not taken lightly.

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Someone will be far more knowledgable than I, but I think they may have used mirrors back in the day to get an overhead shot on at least one end of the sheet. I can't easily find an example to prove this though.

If you watch the CBC coverage of the 1985 Brier final posted on the Curling Canada YouTube channel, it looks like there is a camera person overhead on one end of the sheet (for example, the camera can pan down into the house). On the other end of the sheet, it looks like a locked shot on the overhead with slight visual differences that could be the result of shooting with a mirror. That would also create the visual effect that you described in your post.

Mirrors are used in some curling facilities on the far end of the sheet instead of using overhead cameras and monitors. Of course, at broadcasts for elite-level events, there are remotely controlled cameras over both ends of the sheet.

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My wording was inaccurate/misleading. The reorientation that I'm referring to doesn't require mirrors. It's probably more correct to refer to it as 180 degree rotational turn rather than vertical flip.

The mirror thing is fascinating, though. I would've never imagined such an approach. You'd think putting a giant mirror above the house would be dangerous, but I guess it works in this sport since the rocks aren't flying in the air.

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Well I just found out that Madtown Double Down also does the overhead "upside down" (top 12 is at the bottom of the screen), and this is a very recent/on-going production.

Example is at 24m30s of this 2018 match between Carey/Morris vs Anderson/Dropkin.

Maybe this is not such a big deal as I had initially thought.

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Vavrek
W: Red Deer Curling Classic
Red Deer, AB
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Draw: 10 -- Sun, Nov 17 -- 12:30pm MT
Englot 2nd
Hudyma
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Skrlik
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W: Le Gruyere AOP European Curling Championships
Helsingborg, SWE
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Yamuch 2nd
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