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12-29-21 05:44PM |
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PEI & NOnt cancel
PEI and NOntario cancelled their Scotties playdowns. PEI is giving the spot to Birt as she has the most points and lets face it is just about the only capable team in PEI. Nont says they haven't decided yet. I imagine they might offer it to McCarville but she didn't go last year so maybe they offer it to Burns who did go.
May be getting to the point where they will take 3 wildcards like last time.
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12-29-21 05:52PM |
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prairie guy
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I would think that McCarville would accept the spot this year with the Scotties happening in Thunder Bay. That is if it gets played and I really really hope it is still a go.
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12-29-21 06:01PM |
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quote: Originally posted by prairie guy
I would think that McCarville would accept the spot this year with the Scotties happening in Thunder Bay. That is if it gets played and I really really hope it is still a go.
Starts in 1 month so CC will have to make decisions pretty quick. Maybe it will take people's minds off their demolishing the hopes of all the mixed doubles curlers due to their atrocious planning.
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12-30-21 07:30AM |
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curlerbroad
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At the moment it can go with 50% capacity. McCarville & Jacobs have dominated NO for years now, so no big deal if the provincials are cancelled.
Fingers crossed this is a go. Ontario is still allowing basketball games with 10000 people, so a scotties with a 1000 should be a go
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12-31-21 11:07AM |
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oliviertoisel
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Ontario won't force the Scotties be cancelled. it is now official provincial policy that everyone should get COVID as soon as possible so they'll definitely want it to go ahead. We'll see if Curling Canada feels the same way, though they have plenty of time to prepare for a semi-bubble so it should be a go ahead.
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12-31-21 01:11PM |
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decade
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quote: Originally posted by oliviertoisel
Ontario won't force the Scotties be cancelled. it is now official provincial policy that everyone should get COVID as soon as possible so they'll definitely want it to go ahead. We'll see if Curling Canada feels the same way, though they have plenty of time to prepare for a semi-bubble so it should be a go ahead.
Since when did the Cons mandate that everyone should get Covid asap?
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12-31-21 02:42PM |
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oliviertoisel
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quote: Originally posted by decade
Since when did the Cons mandate that everyone should get Covid asap?
See yesterday's release. You don't even need to isolate as a close contact anymore.
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01-01-22 06:42PM |
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Deliverer
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Ìt is now official provincial policy that everyone should get COVID as soon as posible`...`You don`t even need to isolate as a close contact anymore.` OLIVIERTOISEL 12-31-21
To suggest it is now provincial policy to develop something like herd immunity in Ontario while at the same time eliminate some basic protocols withh respect to isolation is not only incorrect but dangerous.
Hopefully, nobody will start 2022 following your advice`.
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01-02-22 01:31PM |
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oliviertoisel
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quote: Originally posted by Deliverer
Ìt is now official provincial policy that everyone should get COVID as soon as posible`...`You don`t even need to isolate as a close contact anymore.` OLIVIERTOISEL 12-31-21
To suggest it is now provincial policy to develop something like herd immunity in Ontario while at the same time eliminate some basic protocols withh respect to isolation is not only incorrect but dangerous.
Hopefully, nobody will start 2022 following your advice`.
Yikes, friend. No where did I indicated this was my advice or agree with it. I am simply pointing out that the Ontario government has all but abandoned any attempt at pandemic control during Omicron. Whether that's good or bad is a totally different question.
To get back to the actual topic: the key point is that unless something significant changes there is no prospect Ontario forces the Scotties to be cancelled due to COVID.
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01-03-22 04:20PM |
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abcurler
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Heard Ontario just cancelled
Hope they pick rachel homan to go!!
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01-03-22 04:29PM |
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oliviertoisel
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All that kerfluffle over her qualifying and she's just going to get a free trip? The other contenders will be rightly angry. But Homan got ahead of them on the CTRS thanks to that last chance qualifier win, ironically, less than 3 points ahead of Duncan in the end.
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01-03-22 04:54PM |
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abcurler
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Heard Ontario just cancelled
Hope they pick rachel homan to go!!
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01-03-22 07:07PM |
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DrB
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quote: Originally posted by curlerbroad
Too bad Ontario had to cancel but the early date this year didn’t help matters either. This was year that Homan may not have won it.
https://twitter.com/curlon_/status/...6709481474?s=21
Hoping Curling Canada goes back to the 3 wildcard team format this year. Too many teams aren’t being given a chance to compete.
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01-03-22 07:42PM |
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alex
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If Homan hadn't qualified for Ontario Scotties it would have really put Curl Ontario on the spot.
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01-03-22 08:09PM |
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decade
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Not canceled only postponed. Curling Canada should be a bit more proactive and perhaps move the Scotties into April with the faint hope Omnicrom may have lessened by then.
But then again they can't even make a decision about MS team.
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01-03-22 08:21PM |
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Curlwalker
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Weird
It says postponed but will name a rep on January 7th. I guess that means that if the Canadian Scotties goes ahead the rep will play but the province will still hold a "provincial Scotties" to declare an Ontario champion later? And if the Canadian Scotties gets delayed the rep may not get to play if Ontario can reschedule the Ontario version in time?
It is little confusing.
The Canadian Scotties go Jan 28th. The government's restrictions end Jan 26th so far?
What will curling Canada do? Take a chance on being able to hold the event at the end of January? Postpone until later but before worlds? Do other provinces then reschedule their play downs that have been cancelled/postponed?
What a year to be on the exec of curling Canada.
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01-03-22 08:21PM |
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oliviertoisel
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quote: Originally posted by alex
If Homan hadn't qualified for Ontario Scotties it would have really put Curl Ontario on the spot.
They could not have picked her, full stop. Duncan would've been the favourite based on CTRS.
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01-03-22 09:16PM |
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IN-OFF-FOR-2
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quote: Originally posted by oliviertoisel
They could not have picked her, full stop. Duncan would've been the favourite based on CTRS.
This has got to be ML junior. Each member association can use their OWN criteria to select a team to represent them if there’s no playdown. IF you read, again READ the CTRS standings Homan is ahead. Why do you continue to post advisarial drivel against anyone else who posts a different opinion Or more Importantly FACTS . Good gravy. Go back to your mothers basement and hide behind the keyboard. You continually state you don’t know how Canadian curling works. I suggest you bow out and not comment on things of which you do not know. And yes, that’s how it’s said.
Your 7th grade .... not grade 7 Canadian teacher called, she wants her wasted year back.
I know sometimes here I’ll rant from time to time, but stupidity trumps all. That’s right, Trumps
One more thing. Homan 110 points. Duncan 107. May also have to call your math teacher. How did you pass if you thought 107 was more than 110?
Give it up.
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01-03-22 09:58PM |
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What To Do
It would behoove all health authorities to look to the example of what’s happened on the ground in South Africa, where the Omicron variant first burst out.
Their case counts skyrocketed over about four weeks, peaked, and are now falling as fast as they originally went up, and all with only about 30% of the people vaccinated. The total Omicron cycle time seems to be about 8 weeks.
The current surges in North America started about 2-3 weeks ago, meaning this surge should be over in about 5-6 more weeks. Rather than outright cancel all these events, I would check around with all the involved venues and broadcasters to see if just postponing every event on the calendar by 6 weeks from now could be done. If the answer is yes(ish) try that first. It might be OK to run everything somewhat normally by the end of February.
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01-03-22 09:59PM |
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Maggie
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quote: Originally posted by IN-OFF-FOR-2
This has got to be ML junior. Each member association can use their OWN criteria to select a team to represent them if there’s no playdown. IF you read, again READ the CTRS standings Homan is ahead. Why do you continue to post advisarial drivel against anyone else who posts a different opinion Or more Importantly FACTS . Good gravy. Go back to your mothers basement and hide behind the keyboard. You continually state you don’t know how Canadian curling works. I suggest you bow out and not comment on things of which you do not know. And yes, that’s how it’s said.
Your 7th grade .... not grade 7 Canadian teacher called, she wants her wasted year back.
I know sometimes here I’ll rant from time to time, but stupidity trumps all. That’s right, Trumps
One more thing. Homan 110 points. Duncan 107. May also have to call your math teacher. How did you pass if you thought 107 was more than 110?
Give it up.
You’re ranting at the wrong poster and you are mistaken. The point made was that if Homan hadn’t qualified to play in the ON provincials she wouldn’t have earned the points to be ahead of Duncan so it would have been hard to choose Homan to be the rep.
We finally get rid of two of the rudest posters and you have to make your point like this?
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01-03-22 10:00PM |
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I hope that all these cancellations don't do great long term damage to the game. I fear there may be a bunch of young up and coming teams that have been just spinning their wheels for 2 years and may just give up the chase having seen no tangible progress or results.
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01-03-22 10:24PM |
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oliviertoisel
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quote: Originally posted by Maggie
You’re ranting at the wrong poster and you are mistaken. The point made was that if Homan hadn’t qualified to play in the ON provincials she wouldn’t have earned the points to be ahead of Duncan so it would have been hard to choose Homan to be the rep.
We finally get rid of two of the rudest posters and you have to make your point like this?
Thank you for responding. I am just shocked at that post and completely confused. How can someone both claim we just got rid of ML and then post something nastier that even ML would post (though decidedly less sexist). Why these insane personal attacks? Completely uncalled for and uncivil.
Also you got my point exactly. Homan squeaked ahead of Duncan because she won the last chance qualifier. She gained 12.6 points from that event which went directly onto her total (it being your best 8 results and Homan having just 6 results this season before that event). Duncan of course did not need to play in the event because she was already qualified. Duncan, indeed, only has 6 results so far this season so Homan numerically did worse per event. So to pick Homan in that scenario when she was not the top CTRS team from Ontario AND hadn't even qualified for provincials would be wild. Also I was making a moral (?) argument not a technical one; I meant they couldn't excuse picking Homan not that there was a rule technically preventing it.
The really interesting scenario would be what if Homan hadn't qualified for provincials but was #1 from Ontario on CTRS? (However that could've come to be.) Strong argument a team that failed to qualify shouldn't be picked but she'd be #1 on the ranking. We'll never know but it's fascinating to consider.
As it stands now she's the logical pick and defensible based on CTRS despite being a questionable pick at the provincials (I'd still give her good odds).
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01-03-22 11:17PM |
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Gerry
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quote: Originally posted by Maggie
You’re ranting at the wrong poster and you are mistaken. The point made was that if Homan hadn’t qualified to play in the ON provincials she wouldn’t have earned the points to be ahead of Duncan so it would have been hard to choose Homan to be the rep.
We finally get rid of two of the rudest posters and you have to make your point like this?
The points earned in the Scotties Qualifier had no effect on Homan's ranking thus far.
Homan will count their best 5 events after this upcoming weekend, with the Ontario Scotties Qualifier being their 6th best result.
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01-04-22 08:22AM |
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oliviertoisel
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quote: Originally posted by Gerry
The points earned in the Scotties Qualifier had no effect on Homan's ranking thus far.
Homan will count their best 5 events after this upcoming weekend, with the Ontario Scotties Qualifier being their 6th best result.
I was going by the actual CTRS website: https://www.curling.ca/team-canada/...tandings-women/ but I take it you've done the math and her overtaking Duncan was because of this phased rollout? https://www.curling.ca/team-canada/...ctrs-2018-2022/
Meaning we were one Homan loss away from the scenario where she didn't qualify for provincials but was the top ranked Ontario team. Which would've been fascinating and challenging for CurlOn!
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