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I get the criticism of Vic/Russ/Cheryl, but I notice I am more excited to watch curling when I hear their voices as opposed to the voices of Brian/Cathy or the Sportsnet teams. Maybe it's just that Vic has been associated with the biggest events for so long that I associate hearing him with top curling. Or maybe TSN's top team is indeed the best.

This year, for the first time, I thought Brian had potential as an eventual Vic replacement. The big challenge for him is going to be adding some flair to his delivery. It's all very sanitized and obvious, but a good play by play announcer will add flourishes like Vic does when he counts up a big score.

Also, I hope TSN backs off the COVID tales. That's the kind of thing many viewers don't want to hear about end after end for three hours.

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'Vic is 65, Mudryk 42'. ML

To many of us, age is simply a number. But to ML it's a number to be included in many of his blurbs. Unfortunately his math is not always 'spot - on'.

Some recent examples:
J. Jones is 46 yrs. old, not 48.

R. Homan is 31, not 33

E. Miskew is 32, not 33

B. Mudryk is 41, not 42

V. Rauter is 66, not 65

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Just for fun

Cut the last 20 posters please list the items they have purchased that were advertised by the curling sponsors

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you know, i wouldnt even have a problem with vic if, like i said he wasnt doing his "no offense" followed by an insulting comment or giving back handed compliments to lower ranked teams.

i just wish cheryl too would open up more and stand on her own more. not just agree with everything russ says. even when russ asks her opinion she just goes a long with him

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Here's a question. Has it really been necessary for vic to bring up about 5 times now that Alberta started 3-0 last year but then lost 4 once the schedule got tougher?. Pretty sure it only needs to be said the once

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Nitpick #1: TSN changed their score graphic so that the team name is listed with the provincial colour in the background. So you have Manitoba written in white font on yellow background and Ontario written in white font on red background. But this is annoyingly misleading when Manitoba is playing red stones and Ontario yellow stones.

Nitpick #2: Russ praised the camera angle from behind the thrower in a broadcast yesterday. They never used it again. Are they only allowed to use it once a day? It really is nice to see the arc of the stones a few times and helps give some variance to a long telecast.

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no seriously how many times will vic mention this about alberta?. 2 times more in an update about their game against NWT

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no seriously how many times will vic mention this about alberta?. 2 times more in an update about their game against NWT

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I can't believe the evaporating pebble. I live in a dry area and droplets don't evaporate that fast. The Alberta streak should be put to rest now.

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I can't believe the evaporating pebble. I live in a dry area and droplets don't evaporate that fast. The Alberta streak should be put to rest now.

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Guaranteed next AB draw he'll mention how they've "overcome" the Alberta Streak. Also Russ will say "exactly" 10 times and Cheryl will say sittin' and hittin'

My pet peeve is rather than saying that spot runs straight or that spot doesn't curl when they miss a shot, how about the truth, THEY MISSED THE BROOM. They dumped it wide, or turned it in and it curled out of their hand. They threw it 10 feet heavy, they pulled the string and were way too light.
Sometimes the truth hurts, but it needs to be told.

Oh that wasn't the outcome they were looking for. No, they dumped it and missed the shot.

Here endeth the rant.

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LMAO. This aft the Zacharias 3rd was light and inside on a shot. Cheryl said "oh she just got unlucky and got on the path where it curls". Missing the broom with the wrong weight isn't unlucky. I get that they don't want to be too critical but you can't sugar coat everything either.
Drinking game: Russ says exactly, you take a shot. Liver failure before end of Brier guaranteed.

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Guaranteed next AB draw he'll mention how they've "overcome" the Alberta Streak. Also Russ will say "exactly" 10 times and Cheryl will say sittin' and hittin'

My pet peeve is rather than saying that spot runs straight or that spot doesn't curl when they miss a shot, how about the truth, THEY MISSED THE BROOM. They dumped it wide, or turned it in and it curled out of their hand. They threw it 10 feet heavy, they pulled the string and were way too light.
Sometimes the truth hurts, but it needs to be told.

Oh that wasn't the outcome they were looking for. No, they dumped it and missed the shot.

I agree with your analysis on this. Sometimes you can tell from the comfort of the couch that a rock was thrown poorly and hey it happens. The crew does not always have to cover up for it. Great shots are worth getting excited about. However I feel that they could tactfully do a better job of commenting on not so good shots.

Anyway I'm still glad there is LIVE curling on TV no matter what the TSN gang is saying!
Here endeth the rant.

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Why do some of you people even watch? Don’t like announcers? MUTE.

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You really shouldn't have to watch something on mute though

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Why do some of you people even watch? Don’t like announcers? MUTE.

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I also wish they would do a little digging on some stories.
For example Vic has explained several times how the rocks do not have hog line detectors in them. He says there is a problem in the supply chain. So far so good.
But there should be some follow up questions. I would find it interesting if they did an interview with the icemaker and he explained how the thing works, what is missing and why they couldn't just use old handles.

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It is time for Russ Howard to watch the game from the comfort of his lazy boy chair. I have yet to be hear him say someone threw bad. It’s either a run in the ice, flat pebble, unmatched rocks, frost, lack of turn, slide path or fresh pebble. Pretty soon it will be lack of lighting, speed of time clocks or the moons magnetic force.
Why not say they threw light or heavy, wide or inside??????

Oh, forgot, he was blaming Cameron’s slider last night.

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It is time for Russ Howard to watch the game from the comfort of his lazy boy chair. I have yet to be hear him say someone threw bad. It’s either a run in the ice, flat pebble, unmatched rocks, frost, lack of turn, slide path or fresh pebble. Pretty soon it will be lack of lighting, speed of time clocks or the moons magnetic force.
Why not say they threw light or heavy, wide or inside??????

Oh, forgot, he was blaming Cameron’s slider last night.

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It is time for Russ Howard to watch the game from the comfort of his lazy boy chair. I have yet to be hear him say someone threw bad. It’s either a run in the ice, flat pebble, unmatched rocks, frost, lack of turn, slide path or fresh pebble. Pretty soon it will be lack of lighting, speed of time clocks or the moons magnetic force.
Why not say they threw light or heavy, wide or inside??????

Oh, forgot, he was blaming Cameron’s slider last night.

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14 time Brier participant , 2 time champion, 2 time world champion and oh, Olympic Gold Medal.. I guess his resume doesn't show any experience. Russ mentioned the slider because it can be a reason for a drift especially for a tuck delivery. He's trying to find a reson for her drift when she's such a strong hitter. Yes, he repeats things, but really listen to him. I play with a lot of people who don't know about angles, or how the different turns react on hits, let alone about their equipment. It's great for newer or inexperienced players to hear some of the finer points of the game!

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LMAO. All these years I thought I just had bad touch and it was my slider all along!!!

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What does playing accolades have do with the FACT that he never says a player missed? That all my post is about. It would be good for the others unexperienced ego to hear that a top end curler is not perfect.

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Any time Dick Rauter opens his yap and starts to speak, most curlers cringe. "would you ever?"

"Do you think?"......

Any time he starts a sentence like this Russ and Cheryl have their thumb and finger held to the bridge of their nose, saying, "really?"

He's been around long enough to to know answers before he says something stupid. Stop playing the buffoon and TRY to ask something intelligent. Might be time for him to go back to the white water kayaking commentating...........

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I enjoy watching the curling on TSN for the Scotties and the Brier, and I realize that this year's event was very different from past years with the Covid-19 bubble restrictions, but this was a weak event for the TSN announce crew and specifically Russ.

His shot analysis was often incorrect including many times not remember which team was throwing, who threw the last rock, what the situation was in the house, who had hammer, etc. I know that the announcers get the same video feed as we get as viewers, so when it becomes painfully obvious to us that there is no longer a shot for 4 because the previous shot bumped two already questionable rocks to no longer be possible counters, don't continue to say that there is a possible shot for 4.

It was a difficult 10 days of listening. And for those of you who want to retort with, "Just put it on mute." I shouldn't have to do that because I'm paying for both the video and the audio.

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