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Looks like gushue has the same self-picking yellow rock as middaugh this morning

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Whomever from CC approved the extra sanding should be relieved of their duties. Watching the main game and highlights. teams are still STRUG-A-LING with it. (insert drunken Joe Namath interview here) Again, WHY? Who approved this decision? Come clean. Turn in your red coat. In the real world if someone made a decision this stupid, they'd be fired on the spot.

They put out a very brief commentary, but never said why, or who.


OH, and ML stop the cr@p about no switch until after 7....you made that up......again......for a change.

They switched after 5, thankfully.

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What a crappy way to go out for Gushue

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If we end up with a 4-way tie for first, I assume they play two semifinals and a final, but do they play both semis simultaneously? That seems like a big missed opportunity for TV. Of course, if they scheduled one of the semis earlier in the day, that winner would have a rest advantage for the Final.

TSN could stagger the starts of the semis (and start them before 2:30) so we could see the last half of each without creating too much of a rest advantage, but that would require doing something clever.

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Jeepers 2 sweeps from Howard and it's 6-5 going home. Longshot chance to steal-steal for the win but it's way better odds than get3-steal.
Gushue doesn't get manhandled in big games like that. Maybe Bottcher can avoid the Buffalo Bills 4 bagger if he keeps that up.
2 weeks now and as someone else here mentioned not one time has a player had a bad release or the wrong weight according to Russ. All flat path or fresh path or sharp rock.

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At this point hoping first for Bottcher, then Dunstone, Like new blood. Not the old guy from Star Trek

https://www.google.com/search?q=sta...=d8enQ0Zu9sFhKM

And I better get 8/10 for look a like points

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At this point hoping first for Bottcher, then Dunstone, Like new blood. Not the old guy from Star Trek

https://www.google.com/search?q=sta...=d8enQ0Zu9sFhKM

And I better get 8/10 for look a like points

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Every year I go to bed on Friday night before the Brier or scotties Saturday imagining a 9 way tie for the playoffs which is hard with only eight teams, and absolute chaos that will be impossible to sort out.

And then every year there’s no ties or one tie and it all works out cleanly.

BOOOOOOO

I want chaos.

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I guess you haven't been on here long enough to know some of us, many of us, have sarcastic/humorous takes on curling. Lighten up. I've been exchanging barbs back and forth for years. I even enjoy the scrums back and forth with ML, the biggest poster and sh@t disturber on this site. It's all in good fun for the most part. Take a breath.

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Yeah, I should probably smile more, too, eh.

Carry on.

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Whomever from CC approved the extra sanding should be relieved of their duties. Watching the main game and highlights. teams are still STRUG-A-LING with it. (insert drunken Joe Namath interview here) Again, WHY? Who approved this decision? Come clean. Turn in your red coat. In the real world if someone made a decision this stupid, they'd be fired on the spot.

They put out a very brief commentary, but never said why, or who.

OH, and ML stop the cr@p about no switch until after 7....you made that up......again......for a change.

They switched after 5, thankfully.

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If you listen to the telecast this week Russ is on a mission to reduce the ends to 8 and to move the button behind the corners.

What's next, a few rubber bumpers to in of of!

Too much tinkering of a good thing.

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While sanding the rocks partway through the championship round isn’t good, some teams were able to adapt. The Team Howard youngsters seemed a bit dazzled by the bright lights of being in the championship round. A few times Scott Howard didn’t sweep a rock out. Debating with Wayne on his calls - let him call the game. A quieter Johnny Mo meant Koe curled better. Gushue had a bad game! Plain & simple.

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First point.
Ten years ago I was being called out on this forum as being an old man, when I was certainly not.
Well, that ship has sailed, and as I creep into senior discounts and more pills than I can remember I feel that my old man opinion needs to be aired out, at least once a year.

When I was young Saskatchewan, the boys and girls in arsenic green, was a curling power far beyond what is imagined today. We didn't always win, but dammit, we were always 'there', always in the mix.

The decades that have passed have taught us that it's not winning that is important, but participation.
At least that is what we tell ourselves. The fact is Saskatchewan's Brier drought cuts us until the green blood drains fully out of our body, heart and soul, and we are left in the puddle of consolation.

"They did good."
"Next year."

This years hope, like every year since Folk, was to make a good show. Catch a tiebreaker into the championship round. Cleanly making the semi-final is far beyond any expectation I had at the beginning of this tournament. Maybe beyond the expectations of most people, EXCEPT THE PARTICIPANTS.

The Boys In Arsenic Green have two very difficult games ahead of them, to bring the trophy back to where it belongs.
My best wishes to them and to quote a Saskatchewan late winter tradition.
"Which way are we going?"
"Higher"
"Which way?"
"HIGHER!"

Point 2.
In the battle of serious curling talk VS humanity, that happened on Curlingzone a number of years ago, seriousness won the day, to the detriment of the site and the site numbers.

While the contributions of certain posters, myself included, were not really missed, in fact it was a blessing some left for greener pastures, there also were so many outstanding posters who left for good - and this site is so much poorer for their absence.

I have watched a **** pile of curling from behind the glass, and over the years have had discussions about the games on the other side, plus casual conversations about girls, beer, politics, music, cars, girls, hell, I remember an indepth conversation about the ongoing Fauklands war.
And I also know......
Anyone who complained they wanted "serious curling talk" ended up in the snowbank.

I believe when CZ was set up it was for more than just one serious, boring line. I will give kudos to a few of the posters, who don't come here with a chip on their shoulder. To those who come with a purpose of brightening the dour. You know who you are. Keep it up.

Slam me if you feel like it.
I'll cry all the way back to my Curlingzone Poster Of The Year award.
Thank you J-Ho.

And in closing .
GO SASKATCHEWAN!
(I hope I don't jinx you guys.)

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If you listen to the telecast this week Russ is on a mission to reduce the ends to 8 and to move the button behind the corners.

What's next, a few rubber bumpers to in of of!

Too much tinkering of a good thing.

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Nothing against Koe but I'm hoping a new face wins. New blood. Trouble is they have to play each other first. Bottcher is due.

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Originally posted by freezetothehack
If you listen to the telecast this week Russ is on a mission to reduce the ends to 8 and to move the button behind the corners.

What's next, a few rubber bumpers to in of of!

Too much tinkering of a good thing.

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I'm actually surprised they didn't go to 8 ends for this year's Brier, Scotties and World's using covid as an excuse to get it over with. It's going to be 8 ends soon and I'm on board.
Russ keeps talking about moving the draw to the button around to keep the pebble from wearing in the middle. How about you just re-pebble after the draw to the button if it's such a problem. And maybe re-pebble after 5 (or 4). I prefer none of the above as adapting to changing ice and knowing what path is heavy vs light is one of the things that separates the great ones from the rabble. It is not the crapshoot that Russ would have us believe.
Koe is already in my top 5 curlers of all time (Martin, Gushue, Hackner, Middaugh) and winning another Brier would put him clearly at the top.

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If you listen to the telecast this week Russ is on a mission to reduce the ends to 8 and to move the button behind the corners.

What's next, a few rubber bumpers to in of of!

Too much tinkering of a good thing.

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Biggest falls at the Brier:

3. Mike McEwen - came in with low expectations and failed to exceed them.
5. Jason Gunnlaugson - a high flyer the first half of Brier; running into telephone poles & speed bumps entire 2nd half.
7. Adam Casey - exposed as an average club lead suddenly injected into the biggest stage of them all. If this was WWE-scripted it would have had a better ending.

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If you look at the 5-FGZ Brier stats for the 3 years including this year, you will see that 2/3 of games are essentially "decided" with 4 ends to go... 3/4 are "decided" with 2 ends to go. So most games are already "decided" well before the 10th end.

The reason is, that if you fall behind by 2 or more, after 6... or even if you fall just 1 behind but without hammer in the 7th... only 6 games in 168 "came back" from that scenario.

That means that... if you move it back to 8 ends, then "4-ends-to-go" is the half time break. It turns out that the number of "2-down", or "1-down-without" is not a great deal different between the 4th and 6th end.

So it means that 2/3 of the games would be essentially DONE at halftime, and 3/4 would be "done" at 6 ends.

Even if the players don't admit it, and play on.

Are such short games going to hold spectator's interest?

Also, the hammer in the first end has already become more important with the 5-FGZ, now at 65-35. That will be exacerbated in shorter games.

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All Alberta final. And like I mentioned, possibly the best Alberta team not there.

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Tremendous shot by Bottcher under extreme pressure, but I fear he might become the Buffalo Bills of Canadian curling tonight. Pulling for Koe because this might be his last stand.

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Clutch. Go Bottcher Go

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Tremendous shot by Bottcher under extreme pressure, but I fear he might become the Buffalo Bills of Canadian curling tonight. Pulling for Koe because this might be his last stand.

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