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06-17-20 10:03PM
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What's your "I can't believe I just noticed this for the first time ever!" story?

I just realized today that yes, WCF actually does have a rule to match uniform and stone color (rule C3a).

So Canada wears the (predominantly) white jerseys when they're throwing yellow stones, and the red jerseys when they're throwing red stones.

Similarly, Sweden wears yellow throwing yellow, and blue throwing red.

I can't believe it took me this long to realize this. Of course I've always been a slow learner. It was at least a month before I realized that the stones are rotating (I blame it on how I was initially introduced to the sport, which is through heavy weight circus shot highlights).

What are some of your own late revelation moments regarding the sport?

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06-17-20 10:28PM
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I couldn't find anything in WCF rulebook regarding this, so I'm going to ask: is the extra end traditionally played to the home end?

WCF rule is explicit that the first end is played "going away". It flip flops every end, so the 10th end is played "coming home" (hence the phrase). But if an extra end is needed, which direction is it played?

I ask because I've seen footage (usually livestreams from clubs instead of high production TV broadcasts) where all 16 stones are sent away to start the extra end, so that the extra end is played "coming home", just as it would if it were the final end in regulation time.

I haven't checked to see if this is always done everywhere, though (is it?).

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I guess they could push them down to play them home, but usually, they just play them away and kick them home after the EE. It could be another obscure TV rule, like the rocks matching outfits one.

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I just checked 2019 and 2020 Scotties final, and they definitely played the 11th away (house logos are Scotties/Cashmere vs Purex/SpongeTowel). The 2020 World Junior Championship semifinal also played the 11th away (house letters in English vs Cyrillic).

In fact I can only think of one example where the extra is played coming home, and that was Canad Inns Classic.
https://youtu.be/NGGuzIzfxhg
(Watch last seconds of the 8th where they send the rocks back up the sheet to play EE).

This was played in a club, not an arena, so maybe that's the deciding factor? I believe most clubs have the glass wall audience in one end and just a solid wall in the other end, so maybe there's more of a reason to play the decisive last end coming home, I'll check for more games from Canad Inns and report later.

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Yep there you go, another one from Canad Inns, where they send the rocks up to play extra coming home.

https://youtu.be/fd6XiGE6ZDg?t=2h28m50s

Very interesting situation here. The Koreans were about to send the rocks away, but then aborted when it seemed like the Scots didn't think it was necessary. An official then told them to send the rocks away.

So yeah this is definitely a thing and it can be somewhat confusing/inconsistent. I wonder how this affects play strategically (ice condition vs preferred turn, etc.)

In fact, that's partially how Homan lost vs Stern in 2019 final, who stole the 9th. One side of the sheet is straighter than the other, so you wonder if things would've played differently had they played the extra going the other way.

https://youtu.be/cnQwYdAKdvQ

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You'll find quite often in smaller spiels, especially those in clubs, will push the rocks down so they can play back towards the glass so the spectators can see better.

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I've never stepped inside a curling club. How many has those mirrors over the house on the away end? Is this quite rare generally, or is it common in bigger more established multi-sheet clubs?

Here's an example of what I'm talking about from Switzerland
https://youtu.be/9KdBMoMQd0M

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A lot of clubs have overhead cameras above the rings that can be viewed on tv screens inside the club. Even switch back and forth to each end

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We have had several minor provincial finals in our club and they played rocks " towards the home end/ glass" just for the benefit of spectators.
We now also have overhead cameras that transmit to in lounge tvs. No mirrors needed. One camera per set of rings.

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We have had several minor provincial finals in our club and they played rocks " towards the home end/ glass" just for the benefit of spectators.


You made it sound like they played those finals coming home EVERY END. Is that what you meant?

This two houses at opposite ends of the sheet thing is probably natural to most of you at this point, but believe me, it was slightly confusing for newcomers the first time they see it. Or at least that was the case for me.

I think I've seen some sheets with "short" houses too, so that'd be more than 2 houses per sheet. I don't remember where I saw this, or why it was even done in the first place.

//edit: found it! Granite Club in Seattle

2 sheets have short houses just before far hog lines. 2 sheets have mid houses halfway down the sheet, which apparently allows a fun "social distancing" game to be played where teams are throwing from opposite hacks. Center sheet is traditional.

Another example from Brampton just has one special sheet with 5(!!!) houses, and straight lines out of the hack, probably to help guide you to slide straight for beginners.

Last example, Broomstones have the extra houses fully-painted! (not just outlines).

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No just for the extra end.
Every end? That would just be plain silly.

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06-22-20 04:10PM
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No other similar stories?

How long did it take you guys to realize that the ice is pebbled?

I have a friend who thought that curlers wear bladed/ice skating shoes.

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I have a friend who thought that curlers wear bladed/ice skating shoes.
Years ago, (a few decades, let's say) I had a friend, a PhysEd grad from Florida, who thought curling required skates. #NoGuff

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Trace your family tree. You are definitely descendants from Cape Breton with "No guff"

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Trace your family tree. You are definitely descendants from Cape Breton with "No guff"
Haha. Must be the Scottish heritage in common. Settlers went to S.Ont and then Western Manitoba in the wayBack machine. I really thought it was a NorthEnd thing! All curlers though. #OhYeah. #BigTIme.

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