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Unbeknownst to the statistically-challenged commentators, the 7-ender just put up by Crawford’s NB rink is the BIGGEST END in Hearts record history. And it ties the Brier record.

Alas, our commentating team seems blithely unaware that history has been made. Only in curling!

PS: There has never been a 6-ender in Hearts history, putting this record in the “black swan” category.

CORRECTION: Apparently there have been several incidences of 6’s in past Scotties.

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TSN would hire a stats guy except that would cost money. They have a great cash cow in the Scotties/Brier but you wouldn't know it. They have the exact same coverage that they had 10 or 15 years ago, haven't even changed the graphics. I remember the Sochi Olympics where they had all kinds of cool camera angles and that was the last time I saw them.
It's staler than Vic.

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PS: There has never been a 6-ender in Hearts history, putting this record in the “black swan” category.

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Thanks, I wasn’t aware of that stat. Nor was I aware of the website you noted. I note that last years’s Heart’s program does not list any single-end records.

In some ways it makes the 7 ender all the more extraordinary given the number of previous sixes. And it certainly doesn’t change the fact that the commenters should have known it was a new record...and it should have been celebrated.

Thanks again.

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Fresca: “...no big deal.”

Are you for real? It’s the first seven-ender in more than 3,500 games and over 20,000 ends of curling. i.e. it’s unique.

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I sort of understand the "no big deal" remark.

Take an 8-ender, for example. This is commonly known as "the perfect end", and sometimes compared to a perfect game in bowling or baseball (or so Wikipedia says).

Neither is a fair analogy, in my opinion. Bowling is basically solitaire, there's no opposition to thwart your plan, you just have to execute.

I don't know much about baseball, but it's obvious to me that you can't compare an end of curling to a whole game of baseball. Maybe a perfect end of curling is analogous to a perfect inning of baseball, but I don't know enough about baseball to even suggest that.

So yeah, I do think a perfect game of bowling or baseball are way bigger deals than an 8-ender in curling.

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I have no problem with the 7 point pose. Make a great picture to hang up back at the club. Don't like the pose, hit a rock.

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I remember the Sochi Olympics where they had all kinds of cool camera angles and that was the last time I saw them.

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FYI, for the olympics, TSN has no control over the camera feeds, that is handled by the host organization. They then sell the camera feed to individual nations who show the feeds how they choose. Many nations dont even send their hosts to the event for the broadcast.

All Olympic footage in the US goes to NBC. I guess in Canada it goes to TSN. But neither NBC nor TSN gets to dictate where cameras go.

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I’ve been on a 8 ender team twice...we got them because the other skip kept calling for draws instead of hits.

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Never been on one, for or against. But my late father-in-law was on the right side of an eight-ender once. His rink’s picture is still on display in Brockville.

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We’v certainly veered off topic. Oh well, a family tale.

My daughter once skipped a group of first-timers in a school bonspiel against a very experienced team. She faced last rock situations against consecutive 8-enders. Unperturbed, she cut them down to a one and a three, respectively.

Nerves of steel, you bet. She is now a surgeon and still enjoys the roaring game.

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