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oliviertoisel
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I wonder if Courtney has also been given a welcome back invite by CBC and/or SportsNet. If she has some income from commentating that could be a nice boost while she doesn't actively play.
What does Homan do? Are we seeing the end of her dominance or can she reconfig? The Weagle thing obviously didn't pan out and despite their three Scotties silvers the last three years were rough.
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| 02-22-22 02:28PM |
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Originally posted by oliviertoisel
I wonder if Courtney has also been given a welcome back invite by CBC and/or SportsNet. If she has some income from commentating that could be a nice boost while she doesn't actively play.
What does Homan do? Are we seeing the end of her dominance or can she reconfig? The Weagle thing obviously didn't pan out and despite their three Scotties silvers the last three years were rough.
Enjoyed Courtney's commentary. Would love to see her replace Bernard or Howard on TSN.
Homan will bounce back IMO. Early success, some struggles recently, kind of like a dude named Tiger who followed the swing change/personal struggles up with an epic run. I would not be surprised to see Homan playing out of Alberta next year with Peterman Wilkes and Lawes.
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| 02-22-22 03:18PM |
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Let's be fair to Team Homan - the only reason the 'Weagle thing didn't work out' was because of the pandemic. Had they had the normal training time and competition experience prior to this year, I'm sure it would've been a different narrative. Sarah is a fine addition to the team.
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| 02-22-22 03:30PM |
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Let's be fair to Team Homan - the only reason the 'Weagle thing didn't work out' was because of the pandemic. Had they had the normal training time and competition experience prior to this year, I'm sure it would've been a different narrative. Sarah is a fine addition to the team.
Yes it's kind of a Buffalo Bills thing. They were great team to reach 4 Super Bowls but people criticize because they didn't win. I believe that in the last 10 years Homan has played in 8 Scotties (missing Olympic years) and made the final 6 times. That's outstanding but people only see 3 straight losses in the finals (which is not failure).
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| 02-22-22 03:43PM |
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CURLER1
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Here is the announcement from Homan's facebook page.
Team Homan
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After the
2021/22 season, Joanne Courtney will be taking some time away from curling to focus on her family and career. Although we will greatly miss Joanne on our team, we are excited about her next chapter. Jo has been the most incredible teammate during these past 8 years and we will forever cherish her friendship. “She is one of the most dedicated, positive and hard-working people I have ever met,” Rachel said. “I will forever be grateful for the memories we shared on and off the ice. It was an amazing ride and although I’m sad she is leaving I’m so happy for her to make new goals and watch her thrive in her next ambitions.”
“It is bittersweet to be stepping away from the team at the end of the season and taking a break from curling,” said Joanne. “When I got the call 8 years ago, I could not have imagined how much joining Team Homan would change my life. Playing at the highest level in the sport I love has been a dream come true. The pursuit of excellence requires relentless effort, and I am proud of my personal growth through my time on this team. I will continue to be inspired by the drive and dedication of my teammates as I step away from the game.”
On Team Homan, Joanne elevated our team to the next level and revolutionized sweeping in the women’s game. Together we won our first Scotties with Joanne in 2017, winning the World Championship that same year where we went undefeated. We were able to achieve a lifetime goal of competing at the Olympics and have had quite the ride competing on the world stage. Our team also won most of our Grand Slam victories, 8 out of 11, curling with Joanne.
“I have a hard time coming up with the right words. I am really going to miss her, as a teammate, shotmaker, and of course sweeper,” said Emma. “She is the type of person who brings positive energy and is so fun to be around, win or lose. I am definitely grateful for all the years we had together, all we have accomplished, and our life-long friendship.”
“It has been a wild ride and I cannot thank Team Homan enough for letting me join,” said Joanne. “While the big wins will be burned in my brain forever, it will be the little moments of camaraderie that I will miss the most. I cannot wait to assume the ‘fangirl’ role for my wonderful teammates as I look to create more balance in my life and pursue new goals.”
In terms of a new team member, we will take some time to reflect on what the team lineup will be next season. For now, we want to focus on the events ahead and enjoy our last season with Joanne. Please join our team in wishing Jo all the best off the ice after this season - you will forever be a big piece of our story!
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| 02-22-22 03:46PM |
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hoggedrock
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Originally posted by hogged again
I would not be surprised to see Homan playing out of Alberta next year with Peterman Wilkes and Lawes.
What a phenomenal team that would be. I think Jocelyn would make a strong lead. Never really solidified herself as one of the top seconds.
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| 02-22-22 04:13PM |
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oliviertoisel
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Homan out of Alberta makes a ton of sense in some ways but seems unnecessary if she keeps Wilkes and Miskew. Dumping Miskew would be shocking, but so was Weagle. If the three are staying together they can easily find a fourth since they'd have no residency requirement.
But I personally think it's time to remove the residency requirement. Teams can compete in their skip's province of residence, no other requirements. Keep your provincials and nationals but no more hindering teams with residency. I'm particularly mindful of Gushue who is going to have an issue—and that seems to defeat the entire purpose of residency by harming NL.
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| 02-22-22 05:10PM |
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Originally posted by oliviertoisel
But I personally think it's time to remove the residency requirement. Teams can compete in their skip's province of residence, no other requirements. Keep your provincials and nationals but no more hindering teams with residency. I'm particularly mindful of Gushue who is going to have an issue—and that seems to defeat the entire purpose of residency by harming NL.
I agree whole-heartedly, Olivier. I personally would like to see the residency rules changed to reflect the curling world as it is now, and to perhaps help make it easier for Canada to compete at the worlds and Olympics, which are very important to me, at least. Keep good teams together and give talented skips in provinces that don't have a huge curling base a chance to form a truly competitive team. I would agree that residency should be confined to skips, and then it would be a "have at it" to form teams. I think it would be important that the skip would actually reside in the province/territory they're representing, to help prevent teams from parachuting into another province or territory.
I know that there are drawbacks and problems with this system, but any system will have some negatives that go with it. And I also know that this may be better discussed in a state of Canadian curling tread, but there you go.
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| 02-22-22 05:31PM |
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Originally posted by hogged again
Yes it's kind of a Buffalo Bills thing. They were great team to reach 4 Super Bowls but people criticize because they didn't win. I believe that in the last 10 years Homan has played in 8 Scotties (missing Olympic years) and made the final 6 times. That's outstanding but people only see 3 straight losses in the finals (which is not failure).
There is only two outcomes to every curling final. You succeed or you fail. Which verb fits Homan?
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| 02-22-22 05:34PM |
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curlingclips
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Originally posted by oliviertoisel
remove the residency requirement
With the creation of the Pan-Continental, another alternative is to keep the provincialism of the Brier/Scotties by banning elite teams from participating.
Winner of Brier/Scotties goes to the Pan-Continental, where top 5 qualifies the country for Worlds.
Winner of Canada Cup goes to Worlds. No residency requirement. This is where elite teams compete. You can throw in the Brier/Scotties champions to the mix too.
There is potential for disaster if a weak team somehow won the Brier/Scotties and then failed to qualify Canada for Worlds at Pan-Continental, but so be it.
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| 02-22-22 07:05PM |
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Originally posted by decade
There is only two outcomes to every curling final. You succeed or you fail. Which verb fits Homan?
Simplistic and incorrect. Just making the finals in the Scotties is a success. But you are obviously one of the people who thinks the Bills were failures too. They weren't, neither is team Homan.
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| 02-22-22 09:31PM |
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Originally posted by curlingclips
With the creation of the Pan-Continental, another alternative is to keep the provincialism of the Brier/Scotties by banning elite teams from participating.
Winner of Brier/Scotties goes to the Pan-Continental, where top 5 qualifies the country for Worlds.
Winner of Canada Cup goes to Worlds. No residency requirement. This is where elite teams compete. You can throw in the Brier/Scotties champions to the mix too.
There is potential for disaster if a weak team somehow won the Brier/Scotties and then failed to qualify Canada for Worlds at Pan-Continental, but so be it.
What is with your obsession with Canadian curling as a NON Canadian? Blah blah blah blah blah. I don’t get it. Canadians at times are critical, some times even too critical, but you, never thrown a rock in your life, tries to come across as the genius answer to questions nobody has asked! You’re on a pace to out post ML in record time. Are you being paid to stir it up to make us react to your incessant BS posts? If I didn’t know better I’d think there was a hidden camera watching the reactions of all of us after you continue to spew your crap. As posted earlier I’ll go double or nothing for 80 now. There’s no end.
Again sorry to the rest for my weekly rant.
PS. Like Joanne Courtney and her broadcasting. Early prediction she comes back to play 2023/4
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curlingclips
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Originally posted by IN-OFF-FOR-2
incessant BS posts
Separating the "slam teams" from the "provincial teams" (for lack of better words), and having the Canada Cup winners go to Worlds, are both old ideas that have been tossed around for years. They're not my original ideas.
The objection for years had always been "But then what are the provincial Brier/Scotties teams playing for if they don't get to go to Worlds?".
Well, now we have the Pan-Continental. I say that could be the carrot for the provincial Brier/Scotties teams.
Top 5 qualifies to Worlds. I think it's safe to say that for the foreseeable future, this will always be CAN, USA, JPN, KOR, and CHN, in some order that doesn't really matter.
I think Canada is deep enough that, say Krista McCarville or Andrea Crawford could easily qualify Canada to Worlds. Canada probably doesn't need Kerri Einarson to play against Mexico and Brazil. Einarson herself would probably rather rest instead of play in this new event, or maybe play and earn some money in the slams if there's a scheduling conflict.
If this idea is bad, please explain how. Address the idea, not the person proposing the idea.
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Some quotes from ROCK AND A HARD PLACE By Kristina Rutherford
https://www.sportsnet.ca/curling/lo...t-back-to-no-1/
"[Chelsea Carey] wonders about determining the world representative through the Canada Cup, which is a best-on-best between the country’s top-ranked teams."
"[Brent] Laing wants to see the Brier and Scotties return to a more amateur level, that might not even see the top teams playing in it"
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IN-OFF-FOR-2
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by curlingclips
Separating the "slam teams" from the "provincial teams" (for lack of better words), and having the Canada Cup winners go to Worlds, are both old ideas that have been tossed around for years. They're not my original ideas.
The objection for years had always been "But then what are the provincial Brier/Scotties teams playing for if they don't get to go to Worlds?".
Well, now we have the Pan-Continental. I say that could be the carrot for the provincial Brier/Scotties teams.
Top 5 qualifies to Worlds. I think it's safe to say that for the foreseeable future, this will always be CAN, USA, JPN, KOR, and CHN, in some order that doesn't really matter.
I think Canada is deep enough that, say Krista McCarville or Andrea Crawford could easily qualify Canada to Worlds. Canada probably doesn't need Kerri Einarson to play against Mexico and Brazil. Einarson herself would probably rather rest instead of play in this new event, or maybe play and earn some money in the slams if there's a scheduling conflict.
If this idea is bad, please explain how. Address the idea, not the person proposing the idea. [/QUOTE
Oh my God. Again. This is the song that doesn’t end. It just goes on and on my friend. One question only. As a Non Canadian, how does this affect, that’s right, affect, YOU?
100’s of posts slagging Canada curling and you’ve never thrown a stone.. In any country. Never. Not one. Give it up. I’ll up it to double or nothing 80. The end. Really? Never. It never ends with you. Blah blah more links or crap. Your mom called down to the basement, time for supper. Oh,
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MeaghanEdwards
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Back on the subject of team changes, anyone have a guess at who's replacing Jo? I'm probably way wrong but I've been wondering about McTaggart.
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| 02-22-22 11:35PM |
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IN-OFF-FOR-2
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Back on the subject of team changes, anyone have a guess at who's replacing Jo? I'm probably way wrong but I've been wondering about McTaggart.
Has to be someone from Ontario or AB. I’m guessing peterman moving home with new hubby gallant
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| 02-23-22 01:40AM |
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Originally posted by IN-OFF-FOR-2 Oh my God. Again. This is the song that doesn’t end.
Exactly. You just can't give it a rest, even when people tell you point blank to stop bullying other posters and just ignore the content that you don't like.
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Maggie
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Originally posted by IN-OFF-FOR-2
[QUOTE]Originally posted by curlingclips
Separating the "slam teams" from the "provincial teams" (for lack of better words), and having the Canada Cup winners go to Worlds, are both old ideas that have been tossed around for years. They're not my original ideas.
The objection for years had always been "But then what are the provincial Brier/Scotties teams playing for if they don't get to go to Worlds?".
Well, now we have the Pan-Continental. I say that could be the carrot for the provincial Brier/Scotties teams.
Top 5 qualifies to Worlds. I think it's safe to say that for the foreseeable future, this will always be CAN, USA, JPN, KOR, and CHN, in some order that doesn't really matter.
I think Canada is deep enough that, say Krista McCarville or Andrea Crawford could easily qualify Canada to Worlds. Canada probably doesn't need Kerri Einarson to play against Mexico and Brazil. Einarson herself would probably rather rest instead of play in this new event, or maybe play and earn some money in the slams if there's a scheduling conflict.
If this idea is bad, please explain how. Address the idea, not the person proposing the idea. [/QUOTE
Oh my God. Again. This is the song that doesn’t end. It just goes on and on my friend. One question only. As a Non Canadian, how does this affect, that’s right, affect, YOU?
100’s of posts slagging Canada curling and you’ve never thrown a stone.. In any country. Never. Not one. Give it up. I’ll up it to double or nothing 80. The end. Really? Never. It never ends with you. Blah blah more links or crap. Your mom called down to the basement, time for supper. Oh,
You can’t make your point without childish, tired insults? There is a residency requirement for stating opinions?
You’ve been deputized to tell others what they can post?
You keep apologizing for your rants. It’s not a real apology if you don’t change the behaviour.
If you don’t like what the poster is saying either address that civilly or scroll on by.
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Maggie
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Back on the subject of team changes, anyone have a guess at who's replacing Jo? I'm probably way wrong but I've been wondering about McTaggart.
That would be a surprise to me. It’s always interesting to see where it all shakes out after an Olympic cycle.
Hope Courtney gets a broadcast gig. She was refreshing and good.
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| 02-23-22 09:32AM |
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Has to be someone from Ontario or AB. I’m guessing peterman moving home with new hubby gallant
Interesting how the men seem to have to move to the "home" province of their wives. Never get involved with an Aussie woman.
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curlerbroad
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Back on the subject of team changes, anyone have a guess at who's replacing Jo? I'm probably way wrong but I've been wondering about McTaggart.
Perhaps someone from one of the younger teams? Or will Team Homan break up?
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misty1
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Rachel lives in Alberta does she not?.
What do people think of Homan possibly moving to represent Alberta and reconnecting with Laura walker?. Homan ,walker and miskew back together. They'd need a new lead . Could maybe bring walkers current lead on with them or maybe pick up Rachelle brown.
To me this could be a very strong possible line up:
Rachel homan
Emma miskew
Laura walker
Rachelle brown or Nadine scotland
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| 02-23-22 01:24PM |
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Deliverer
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"Which verb fits Homan?" decade
At the age of 32, Homan's achievements todate in the Canadian Scotties (3), the World Championships (1) and the Grand Slams (11) are unmatched by any female skip in the history of Canadian curling. Compared with Canada's "most decorated female skip all-time", Homan won her first of 3 Canadian Championships at the age of 24 v. Jones at 31, won her first World Championship at the age of 28 v. Jones at 34 and won her first Grand Slam at the age of 23 v. Jones at 31.
Give your limited choice, it seems to me the verb "succeed" fits very well; "fail" is not a verb.
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Maggie
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"Which verb fits Homan?" decade
At the age of 32, Homan's achievements todate in the Canadian Scotties (3), the World Championships (1) and the Grand Slams (11) are unmatched by any female skip in the history of Canadian curling. Compared with Canada's "most decorated female skip all-time", Homan won her first of 3 Canadian Championships at the age of 24 v. Jones at 31, won her first World Championship at the age of 28 v. Jones at 34 and won her first Grand Slam at the age of 23 v. Jones at 31.
Give your limited choice, it seems to me the verb "succeed" fits very well; "fail" is not a verb.
What does age have to do with their accomplishments? Who is the greatest is always subjective to a certain extent.
I’m curious. What part of speech do you think ‘fail’ is?
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