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Curling glossary: body language edition

What are some of the more universal body language vocabulary in curling?

I know some teams have different ways to communicate the different weights/turns/shots internally, but I'm just looking for the basics right now, something more universal and used from one team to another, or one team to the officials.

So for example, WCF Rules of Curling (C7.c.ii) says that a team time-out is called with a "T" hand signal.

There's no official signal in the rule book for calling a technical timeout, but almost everyone uses the forearm "X", it seems.

Again, there's no official signal for calling for a measure, but almost everyone draws an imaginary circle with their index finger.

Are there more gestures?

How do you call a power play in mixed doubles? When you need a hog line umpire (example), do you have to do so verbally?

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Oh, here's one that I've gotten so used to by now that I almost forgot: what's with all the "broom toasts"?

Are all broom toasts the same? Sometimes they hold the broom halfway down the shaft and just raise their arm, other times they hold the broom by the very tip and swing the whole broom up to achieve maximum height, etc (example).

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I'm not sure I understand what you're referring to. Do you have examples?

The closest thing I can think of of a collapse while sliding is Kim EunJung's winning shot that lost her the game due to hog line violation ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIv9x7Ixlp8 ). This was a full body collapse, though, I don't think the broom had anything to do with it.

In any case, this is not the kind of body language/gestures in curling that I'm asking about, because it's more like personal expression rather than a mode of communication with another human being.

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FYI her name is spelled Rachel Brown. For the longest time it's misspelled as Rachelle. I think there's a funny story on that involving a birth certificate, but I don't remember the details.

It's never spelled as Rochelle.

And yes, Rachel does a lot of body English when watching the rock, depending on whether she's urging it to curl one way or the other, but that's not what I'm asking on this thread.

I'm basically asking similar to what Dean Gemmell said back in 2013 about curling adopting baseball umpire gestures and hand motions (video). At the most basic level, I'm asking what gestures and hand motions do we already have. The next level would be adding on more gestures and hand motions to address various situations.

Like, as much as I appreciated Oliver Dupont explaining (TWICE!) why he asked for a hog line umpire before Denise throws the in-off, I think it'd be far more efficient use of everyone's time if there's a gesture for it.

Perhaps more common, though, I think it would be cool if there are official gestures to emphasize upcoming power plays or extra ends.

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According to this achival footage, the official signal to call for a measure used to be to lift your broom up flat above your head.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpe...061FD9E&t=4m25s

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by curlingclips
According to this achival footage, the official signal to call for a measure used to be to lift your broom up flat above your head.
Meh... Maybe that works if there is a stoppage in play. But during play, that sign, broom flat above your head, used to signify "raise", or tap-back. It was often used in very loud bonspiel ice conditions, when straw brooms and rink rats were interfering with the ability to hear the skip from the other end. Tobacco smoke was also often in the air. I still see this signal used from time to time.

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That's not an official sport gesture, more like a team gesture, but I've definitely seen what you're talking about. Sometimes the distance between the hands holding the broom is how far to tap back the target rock, etc.

Having seen a lot more mixed doubles games, I definitely think mixed doubles could use a lot more gestures.

Let's take power play for example. Right now I think it's just called verbally, "I'd like to use powerplay", etc. Can be awkward, e.g. when there is no common language. On the plus side, it can be jovial too, e.g. the other team asking "Are you sure? I think you should wait! LOL! Is this revenge because we just did it on you?", etc.

Once called, picking which side to set up the rocks can be awkward. Pointing works most of the time, and I guess that can be an official gesture, but I think it would be really cool if it's something more dramatic.

Lining up the stones so the guard completely buries the stone in the house can be awkward. Again, pointing works, but there's also a lot of shouting, especially in the first few years when no one figured out how to set it up. (The house stone is fixed, I think, and it's the guard that has to be positioned to completely bury it, never the other way around!). There were lots of mixed doubles officiating debacles in the early years. "The stone needs to be moved to the left! No, not that stone, the other stone!", etc.

Some officials didn't even know which colored stone goes where sometimes.

Example: WMDCC 2017, RUS (2016 champions) vs SUI (2017 champions)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVeYboE3KF4

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This isn't body language, but I've seen a few instances now where the broom is temporarily laid down on the ice when a measure is called. Maybe it serves as a visual reminder that you can kick off and clear the house of all the other stones, but to leave the ones near the broom alone, until the umpire can come to the pin with the measuring device?

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