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06-27-20 11:05PM
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So a "kicker" is just any stone that might realistically become a counter for extra points?

Because I was beginning to think that maybe a "kicker" is a stone that can be used tactically for an in-off: it "kicks" the "shooter" sideways towards the 4-foot.

So if I'm right, then a kicker doesn't have to be in the rings. A stone that you'd love to have as a potential counter can roll out of the house and still be a kicker (example: Zacharias' comeback 3-ender vs Rumiantseva https://youtu.be/1OMikOA5Wuc ).

Heck, if I'm right, then a "kicker" doesn't even have to be a stone of your color (example: Einarson's comeback 3-ender vs Robertson https://youtu.be/U8qIgLTovGM ).

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Here are some easier ones. I hear this a lot, and I have a general idea of what they mean, but I'd like to have it confirmed.

What's "come up" and "come down"?

Example usage: "That came up a bit, eh?", "I think it'll come up!", "It's coming down!", "That really came down, eh?", etc.

//edit: here's an example from a real game with more context
https://youtu.be/5t5eyBnIBd4
Homan: "I just thought it would come up based on everyone's draw..."

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And here's the other example;
https://youtu.be/XCLOtpi0LmI

Wilson (after Cameron's first): "Oh?? That really came down, eh?"

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And here's the other example;
https://youtu.be/XCLOtpi0LmI

Wilson (after Cameron's first): "Oh?? That really came down, eh?"



I never used "Coming Down" in all my years either skipping or playing front end. However, in retrospect I didn't know how ice was made, how it was contoured, etc.
"COMING DOWN" is just a better way to describe "CURLING" as the rock tends to come off an "angled cliff of ice" - probably not more than a few minor degrees of slant - but enough to wait for the running stone to "COME OFF". Sometimes, a bit too much weight will prevent stones from taking the natural incline so this has to be factored in as well. If the stone's running weight is too light - it probably doesn't have enough momentum to make it to the apex or near-apex of the tilt.

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Someone, I think Laine Peters yelled "NO! Coming down!" as soon as Peterman carved Carey's last rock in first end of bronze medal at 2016 Worlds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1Uij5grGLE&t=1m15s

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When talking about a rock, come down means slow down.
Come up means curl.

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Originally posted by DrB When talking about a rock, come down means slow down. Come up means curl.
Which both kinda mean the same thing, really. It comes up when it comes down. No?
But further, if you sweep, when it is coming down, it comes up further, as opposed to sweeping before it really starts coming down (finishing).

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It comes up when it comes down.

What a crazy sport, this curling is...

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Here's more context for Kate Cameron's first shot 10th end in 2017 Scotties final.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SX2p79EfmY&t=2h28m50s

Howard: (upon release) "Some have been slowing down just a couple feet here..."
Wilson: (after rock hits another and stops) "Oh?? That really came down, eh?"
Howard: "It did come down, didn't it?"
Wilson: "That was just dead, when it hit, eh? Like it really came down?"

So yeah, I think they're talking about the rock losing speed.

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I've only heard this from WCF commentators: what does it mean to "check" a rock?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7PjKBTQNNQ&t=18m

"Where would you put this now if you're Scotland?"
"Maybe, uh, maybe check it? Like, uh, try to stagger all the yellows? Maybe top 12, top 8, half buried around the guard?"

I could be wrong, but I think this pattern is basically some sort of a Christmas Tree.

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