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03-18-21 02:08PM
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Canadian Mixed Doubles

How did they figure out the field for this? After reading the curling.ca and the Wikipedia site, the best I can come up with is

1) Every province and territory gets a team
2) The top CTRS teams get a team

Then, as best as I can deduce, the curling masterminds get together and go, oh crap how can we have a tournament without these people we're propping up, lets let them in for free.

What kind of random deal is 35 teams? This feels all sorts of odd.

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35 teams seems so daunting.

Is Morris playing this game on his own (third end) or is CC's score page bugged? Highlights from other teams would be nice, too.

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Guess Curling Zone is not interested in posting scores on this site. Scores from Dec?

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Re: Canadian Mixed Doubles

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Originally posted by cnpeters
How did they figure out the field for this? After reading the curling.ca and the Wikipedia site, the best I can come up with is

1) Every province and territory gets a team
2) The top CTRS teams get a team

Then, as best as I can deduce, the curling masterminds get together and go, oh crap how can we have a tournament without these people we're propping up, lets let them in for free.

What kind of random deal is 35 teams? This feels all sorts of odd.



From CC website
Thirty-five teams will compete in five pools of seven. The 35 teams were selected by the following
criteria:
• 14 Member Associations (provinces and territories)
• 14 teams from the Canadian Mixed Doubles Rankings [CMDR] based on results from March 15, 2019
and March 15, 2020 (teams must have played at least two mixed doubles events during the season)
• Seven teams unable to compete this season due to COVID-19 but had committed to playing mixed
doubles together. (Rankings are based on each player’s best three CTRS points events from the
2019/2020 season combined with their partners. All players must be part of Curling Canada’s
National Team program)

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by decade
Guess Curling Zone is not interested in posting scores on this site. Scores from Dec? [/QUOT

https://www.curling.ca/scoreboard/#!/competitions/6773


I'm pretty sure CZ usually gets score updates input by volunteers on the site of the events, not someone sitting at CZ central. As noted the NT senior men's scores from earlier today

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Re: Re: Canadian Mixed Doubles

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• Seven teams unable to compete this season due to COVID-19 but had committed to playing mixed
doubles together. (Rankings are based on each player’s best three CTRS points events from the
2019/2020 season combined with their partners. All players must be part of Curling Canada’s
National Team program)



That part there seems carefully worded to make sure they got certain people in there. The person’s three best events with their team or their doubles team? I assume Brier/Scotties weigh super heavy in that? Would that essentially guarantee doubles spots to the playoff teams from the Brier/Scotties?

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Re: Re: Re: Canadian Mixed Doubles

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That part there seems carefully worded to make sure they got certain people in there. The person’s three best events with their team or their doubles team? I assume Brier/Scotties weigh super heavy in that? Would that essentially guarantee doubles spots to the playoff teams from the Brier/Scotties?



Of course, how else would Bobby Sauder have got there?

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Sauder/Bottcher went all the way to quarterfinal in the last championship (2019).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvGkf7lnsCw

They're ranked 8th in CMDR.

https://www.curling.ca/files/2021/0...DR-Results.xlsx

The 7 CTRS teams are:

Val Sweeting/Marc Kennedy
Lisa Weagle/John Epping
Emma Miskew/Ryan Fry
Briane Meilleur/Mark Nichols
Kerri Einarson/Brad Gushue
Joanne Courtney/Darren Moulding
Selena Njegovan/Reid Carruthers

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Lawes's only entry in CMDR is with her nephew. That ranking (#17) is good enough to get in.

If Lawes were to partner up with someone else to try to get in via CTRS, it would have to be someone with very good CTRS. Neither Mike McEwen (317.716) nor Jim Cotter (101.956) had a spectacular 2019-2020 season, so I'm not sure if that partnership would've been good enough (I haven't done the math, so feel free to prove me wrong). Her best bet, if she wants to get in via CTRS with a new partner instead of via CMDR with her nephew, would probably be someone like Brad Jacobs (483.766).

https://www.curling.ca/team-canada/...-standings-men/

quote:
Originally posted by Manitoba Legend
to give Kaitlyn a chance to defend her Olympic gold. . . ! ! !


This is not the Olympic trials. This is just the national championship.

You can look up all the ways she can get in to the trials by the revised qualification process:

https://www.curling.ca/blog/2021/02...rocess-revised/

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Could be sisters

I am here watching at home over lunch catching a couple of ends of the NL vs MB game.

Dezaray and Veanna Cox who played a lawyer in the movie Erin Brockovich could be sisters.

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I like the mixed, short ends, game moves fast, big ends galore but the lack of variety in the play is a drawback.

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Agree with hogged again. maybe more variety in the placement of the placed rocks would allow more thinking.

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quote:
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Agree with hogged again. maybe more variety in the placement of the placed rocks would allow more thinking.
if I’m going to have less variety, I’m really enjoying having a giant mess to deal with every end.

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Gushue question

Gushue played provincial mixed doubles with his daughter but did not win. How does he get to play at Nationals??

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Morris / Lawes

Has there been any reporting why they aren’t playing together? Seems like there’s a story there when the reigning Olympic gold medalists are both at the event but with different partners. Falling out? John think that Homan (his original partner) is better?

And for anyone who offers the reason of “they wouldn’t have enough points to qualify as a team”.. Curling Canada would have done whatever needed to get them in if they wanted to be in.

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No speculation, just the facts.

In 2019-2020 season, Lawes played mixed doubles with her nephew only. They've had partnered together since at least 2014, if not earlier.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_..._Curling_Trials

Morris played with multiple different partners in 2019-2020, including an American.

Kira Brunton
https://www.curlingzone.com/event.p...6250&profileid=

Jolene Campbell
https://www.curlingzone.com/event.p...0450&profileid=

Sarah Anderson
https://www.curlingzone.com/event.p...2427&profileid=

Rachel Homan
https://www.curlingzone.com/event.p...3296&profileid=

Draw your own conclusion.

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Re: Gushue question

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Gushue played provincial mixed doubles with his daughter but did not win. How does he get to play at Nationals??




Teams unable to play during the 2020–21 season
Seven teams who were unable to compete during the 2020–21 season due to the COVID-19 pandemic in Canada also qualified for the event. Each player was ranked based on their top three CTRS events during the 2019–20 season. Both players must also be part of Curling Canada's National Team program.[5]

Female Male Province / Territory
Joanne Courtney Darren Moulding Alberta
Kerri Einarson Brad Gushue Manitoba / Newfoundland and Labrador
Briane Meilleur Mark Nichols Manitoba / Newfoundland and Labrador
Emma Miskew Ryan Fry Ontario
Selena Njegovan Reid Carruthers Manitoba
Val Sweeting Marc Kennedy Alberta
Lisa Weagle John Epping Ontario

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One rule the regular game should adopt is the blank and lose hammer. Instead of the early bailout/go for the blank that we often see the teams would have to stay aggressive and go for the 2. More big ends, more steals, more action.

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quote:
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Jones has never been dominant in the mixed

What the heck are you talking about?

Jones/Laing are #2 in 2019-2020 CMDR. They're #4 in 2018-2019, and #2 in 2017-2018.

https://www.curling.ca/files/2021/0...DR-Results.xlsx

https://www.curling.ca/files/2021/0...May-1-2019.xlsx

https://www.curling.ca/files/2021/0...May-1-2018.xlsx

Most reasonable person will say that's pretty dominant.

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Appears Kaitlyn (Lawes) will be first casualty of the 35 team tourney!
She's playing with a virtually unknown Ontario nephew.
Couldn't round up a Top10 male player to set about defending her Olympic gold.
Wonder why Morris wouldn't (didn't) want to play with her???

. . ! ! !



The announcer indicated since Morris/Homan have already qualified for the Trials he is using this event for " practice" .
https://www.curling.ca/files/2021/0...Proposal-v8.pdf

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JJ Jennifer Jones must have been in total glee after machining off Olympic champion Gushue paired with back to back Scotties champion Einarson - Jones has never been dominant in the mixed but Einarson & Gushue are both dominant monsters in the sport.

I suspect Gushue is a broken man after getting squashed in the last few draws of the Brier; so he's gonna drag Kerri down with him.



Don’t worry about Kerri, she’s using this as practice for the worlds

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Don’t worry about Kerri, she’s using this as practice for the worlds

As for Kaitlyn playing with a glorified club curler? Must be a family obligation...

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As for Kaitlyn playing with a glorified club curler? Must be a family obligation...


Lawes had played with her nephew since 2014, if not earlier.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_..._Curling_Trials

That's 7 years ago, if you do the math. This is not some partnership that was slapped together at the last minute.

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wow. the posts here about kaitlyn curling with her nephew are just..i dont even know. why are we searching for a reason as to why kaitlyn is "stuck" with him?. i guess its occured to no one that she enjoys curling with her nephew

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Why can't TSN simply stream the night games without anouncers. Personally, it would be an upgrade for me. The mistakes and "over Talk" is infuriating!

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