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12-19-21 09:06AM |
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hoggedrock
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Ontario Scotties
Homan dropped her first game in the ON Scotties Qualifier and now has to win 3 straight. A loss and they're done.
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12-19-21 10:40AM |
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Re: Ontario Scotties
quote: Originally posted by hoggedrock
Homan dropped her first game in the ON Scotties Qualifier and now has to win 3 straight. A loss and they're done.
After her 1st game loss she had to win 4 sudden death games. She won the first last night and is currently leading 3-2 in this mornings game.
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12-19-21 12:07PM |
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curlerbroad
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2 more must win games to qualify for the Ontario Scotties too bad CurlONTV isn’t showing the games
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12-19-21 07:33PM |
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So maybe an annus horribilis has glimmer of hope now. Let's hope Homan can carry this 4 game streak into the provincials.
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12-19-21 09:28PM |
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curlerbroad
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And CurlON has a big sigh of relief
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12-19-21 10:06PM |
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nelski
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Homan's run in this provincial qualifier reminded me of Muirhead's run at the Olympic qualifier, last week. Started off not so great - left viewers stunned - then ran the board. Well done.
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12-20-21 02:11AM |
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UnattachedFC
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quote: Originally posted by curlerbroad
And CurlON has a big sigh of relief
I wonder if having to play in a last chance qualifier would make them think about playing out of Alberta. Yes, I know it's probably harder to win there, but it's a hard decision to take and there are pros and cons for every decision made.
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12-20-21 08:16AM |
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oliviertoisel
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This whole situation was only because of their loss to Harrison at the trials. If they’d beaten her and finished that spot higher they would’ve gotten a berth automatically. Clearly their season plan contemplated they would either go to the Olympics or be the highest finishing Ontario team at the Trials and none of this would be needed.
As for Alberta…it probably is still harder to win but not by some huge margin. It has more B+ teams than Ontario but not really any A teams (nor does Ontario).
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12-20-21 01:43PM |
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Glad Homan qualified and hope she wins the province. I always cheer for the underdog which is not her team but I totally respect their commitment to the game and their commitment to improve.
This could be a Tiger Woods type situation where he was at the top and still went and changed his game which caused a lull before the changes paid off. Homan appears to be in the process of working on different releases, sometimes she throws high rotation rocks, sometimes less. Like Tiger, the talent and the feel are still there and if it comes together she may run some tables again.
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01-07-22 11:25AM |
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guido
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Shocker announcement!!!!
Team Homan will be the Ontario rep.
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01-07-22 11:41AM |
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curlerbroad
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quote: Originally posted by guido
Shocker announcement!!!!
Team Homan will be the Ontario rep.
I was so shocked!!! But if Homan/Morris are selected for MD then Team Duncan goes to the Scotties
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01-07-22 12:09PM |
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guido
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quote: Originally posted by curlerbroad
I was so shocked!!! But if Homan/Morris are selected for MD then Team Duncan goes to the Scotties
Which make absolutely zero sense.
What if Rachel gets sick or injured before the Scottie’s? Are they going to replace the whole team with Team Duncan?
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01-07-22 12:41PM |
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quote: Originally posted by guido
Which make absolutely zero sense.
What if Rachel gets sick or injured before the Scottie’s? Are they going to replace the whole team with Team Duncan?
Is it points related? As in if Homan isn't on the team at all (not sick or injured but playing in Olympics) they lose 1/4 of their points?
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01-07-22 12:50PM |
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guido
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quote: Originally posted by hogged again
Is it points related? As in if Homan isn't on the team at all (not sick or injured but playing in Olympics) they lose 1/4 of their points?
It shouldn’t matter . If Joanne ( or anyone else) would get picked for mixed doubles would that also negate the Team Homan pick??? or, are they just basing it on Rachel being the skip??
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01-07-22 12:50PM |
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quote: Originally posted by guido
Shocker announcement!!!!
Team Homan will be the Ontario rep.
Love the subtle sarcasm.
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01-07-22 03:49PM |
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curlerbroad
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I think there are some politics at play here…
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01-07-22 06:44PM |
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Curlwalker
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What if Scotties delayed?
The Ontario original announcement implied that if the Canadian Scotties were delayed they would still play the Ontario scotties first to select a rep. If that is so Rachel is in tough position. If she decides to stay with her team and not go to the Olympics she may still have to go back into the Ontario playdowns to get to the Scotties if it is delayed..
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01-07-22 08:01PM |
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Deliverer
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Given the chance, John Morris will jump at the opportunity to represent Canada at the Olympics in mixed doubles.
However, knowing Rachel, she could very well decline because this would jeopardize her traditional team's chances to win the Canadian Scotties and take a crack at the Worlds. This would be extraordinary, of course, considering how well she has always performed in MD's v. how poorly she has curled in numerous traditional events this 'season'.
But... that's Rachel, and it is a possibility.
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01-08-22 12:08AM |
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Hack Weight
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quote: Originally posted by Deliverer
Given the chance, John Morris will jump at the opportunity to represent Canada at the Olympics in mixed doubles.
However, knowing Rachel, she could very well decline because this would jeopardize her traditional team's chances to win the Canadian Scotties and take a crack at the Worlds. This would be extraordinary, of course, considering how well she has always performed in MD's v. how poorly she has curled in numerous traditional events this 'season'.
But... that's Rachel, and it is a possibility.
That is not a possibility. Winning an Olympic gold medal is a completely different level than another Scotties (which Homan has already won multiple times).
Homan can curl in 15 more Scotties if she really wants to. She’s not giving up an Olympic chance to spend a week in Thunder Bay.
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01-08-22 12:33PM |
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jamcan
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Good letter by OCA and correct decision under the circumstances.
Puts Homan in the position of knowing that if the CCA makes the stupid decision to give her and Morris the MD spot, her team loses out. As it should. Take away Homan's portion of her teams CTRS points and Duncan is clearly ahead of them in the rankings.
But it shouldn't happen if the CCA does the right thing and sends Martin/Griffiths.
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01-08-22 01:43PM |
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oliviertoisel
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quote: Originally posted by jamcan
Good letter by OCA and correct decision under the circumstances.
Puts Homan in the position of knowing that if the CCA makes the stupid decision to give her and Morris the MD spot, her team loses out. As it should. Take away Homan's portion of her teams CTRS points and Duncan is clearly ahead of them in the rankings.
But it shouldn't happen if the CCA does the right thing and sends Martin/Griffiths.
But as Laura Walker pointed out on Twitter: CTRS points are awarded as long as 3/4 of the main team play. So curlon’s approach is not consistent with the very points system they are relying on. I wonder if Walker, also surely a contender for both events, is partly advocating for her own team.
Personally I would like to see a best of 3 series to decide Ontario, no caveats. Test players, etc, in the 5 days before. Duncan vs. Homan. But its not easy to do since almost half the players need to fly to Ontario.
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01-08-22 05:30PM |
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Hack Weight
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These decisions are always going to anger someone. I don’t mind what the OCA did. If they think Duncan is better than Homan’s team without Homan, which is perfectly reasonable, then I’m okay with this.
As suggested above though, some creativity from these organizations would be nice. Getting two teams together for a weekend to play a best of 3 isn’t rocket science. Find a club with decent ice, steam the matches on YouTube, sell some ads, etc.
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01-08-22 06:28PM |
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jamcan
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quote: Originally posted by oliviertoisel
But as Laura Walker pointed out on Twitter: CTRS points are awarded as long as 3/4 of the main team play. So curlon’s approach is not consistent with the very points system they are relying on. I wonder if Walker, also surely a contender for both events, is partly advocating for her own team.
Oh I'm well aware of the 3/4 rule. Something else that needs to be changed.
And for those that think the team would win without Homan? When's the last time Weagle won a province as a skip? The OCA obviously considered that as part of their decision making process.
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01-09-22 01:40PM |
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hogged again
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Question. If Homan gets picked for Olympics sending Duncan to the Scotties and Walker wins Alberta can Homan's team without her play in the wild card game against Fleury?
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01-09-22 02:38PM |
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quote: Originally posted by hogged again
Question. If Homan gets picked for Olympics sending Duncan to the Scotties and Walker wins Alberta can Homan's team without her play in the wild card game against Fleury?
Wouldn't Walker get in automatically because of her CTRS points?
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