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Great guy. Got to meet him in Brandon. Love the big back swing. Hope you get on a great team for next year.
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| 03-03-22 02:23PM |
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Team Shuster + 1
Chris Plys from Team Shuster was just interviewed on KFAN radio in Minneapolis. While there he revealed that Team Shuster plans to stay together and compete for the next four years, but they're going to become a five-man team and add a fifth player to the mix, Colin Huffman.
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| 03-03-22 06:46PM |
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curlingclips
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Re: Team Shuster + 1
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Originally posted by Observer
Chris Plys from Team Shuster was just interviewed on KFAN radio in Minneapolis
Audio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/139-...studio-93656542
//edit: I recommend against actually listening to this interview. The style is very grating, although I imagine this is probably the typical American sports radio talk style.
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| 03-03-22 07:14PM |
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oliviertoisel
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True 5 person team or Jennifer Jones "We love our 5 person team...now sit on the bench for the entire Olympics please Lisa" style?
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| 03-03-22 07:20PM |
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curlingclips
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Originally posted by oliviertoisel
True 5 person team
Who are we to define what a true 5 person team mean? I say if a team declared themselves a 5 person team, then let them be, and let them run their team operation however they see fit.
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| 03-03-22 09:00PM |
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Originally posted by curlingclips
Who are we to define what a true 5 person team mean? I say if a team declared themselves a 5 person team, then let them be, and let them run their team operation however they see fit.
There is no such thing as a 5 person team. A 5 person RINK yes, 5 person tem, no.
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| 03-03-22 10:24PM |
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curlingclips
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Originally posted by hogged again
There is no such thing as a 5 person team. A 5 person RINK yes, 5 person tem, no.
What's the difference between a 5 person team and a 5 person rink?
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| 03-03-22 10:48PM |
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oliviertoisel
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Originally posted by curlingclips
What's the difference between a 5 person team and a 5 person rink?
Nothing. In modern parlance "team" has replaced "rink".
As for your earlier post: what the heck are you on about? Curling teams have used a 4 person plus one alternate model for decades. The alternate does not play unless required or a game is safe and the team brings them in for fun. This is not debatable. The concept of a "5 person team" is new, largely pushed by Jennifer Jones as a concept when she brought Weagle on board supported by multiple interviews about how she was not an alternate. Yet in Beijing she was an alternate and played less than 100% normal alternate Kennedy. So...what's the deal? Is Jones BSing about "5 person team" and, if so, does Shuster's use of the idea mean something different? Valid questions.
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| 03-03-22 11:38PM |
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curlingclips
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Originally posted by oliviertoisel
The concept of a "5 person team" is new
It's relatively new, yes. I think you can argue that Tabitha Peterson's team was an earlier 5 person team with Nina Roth, Tara Peterson, Becca Hamilton, and Aileen Geving. Another example is probably Pat Janssen with Team Bottcher before Moulding's departure.
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Originally posted by oliviertoisel
Is Jones BSing about "5 person team"
Weagle, McEwen, Peterman, Lawes and Jones made a long term commitment to each other to play as a team. That team declared themselves as a 5 person team.
Those two factors combined are good for me to accept them as a 5 person team.
If you refuse to acknowledge the designation that they have chosen for themselves, then that's on you. You obviously have a very different idea of what a 5 person team means, and you're entitled to run your own team that way.
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| 03-03-22 11:58PM |
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curlingclips
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Oh, I think Kim Eun-jung's team is also a 5 person team, going at least as far back as 2016. I can't think of an earlier precedent.
This team probably operates closer to what you expected, i.e. all 5 women played whole games at 2022 Olympics. Kim Yeong-mi legally played entire games with a black tape broom.
By contrast, Marc Kennedy played with a yellow tape broom (Brett Gallant's). Colin Hufman played with a red tape broom (John Landsteiner's).
Jiang Xindi (CHN) also played with a black tape broom. I haven't confirmed if there are others.
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| 03-04-22 12:13AM |
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curlingclips
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In Korea, Kim Min-ji has joined Gim Un-chi (which is basically Kim Eun-ji, but romanized differently).
Proof: @minji__816 is listed as member of https://www.instagram.com/curling_team_gim/
Kim Min-ji is the prodigy skip who came out of the Tier 2 grand slam and reached the final of 2020 Canadian Open against Anna Hasselborg.
Gim Un-chi represented Korea at 2014 Olympics.
They're on a mission to yoink the Korean national team designation from Kim Eun-jung.
I'm honestly not sure how I feel about this. I wish the Korean system could support two national teams instead of putting everything into one basket for an entire year.
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| 03-04-22 12:14AM |
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by curlingclips
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It's relatively new, yes.
The original Team Fleury was a five player team up until they broke up in 2018. Tracy would always play, with Crystal Webster, Jenn Wylie, Jenna Enge and Amanda Gates swapping around at front end from event to event.
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| 03-04-22 12:21AM |
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curlingclips
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Originally posted by FleuryFan
The original Team Fleury was a five player team
Ah, yes! I forgot about them!
GSOC feature "Five"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hu6XxIN7Vvo
"Typically we only bring four players to each event"
Yep, that still counts as a 5 person team in my book.
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| 03-04-22 07:49AM |
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oliviertoisel
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None of this answers what approach Shuster is taking but I guess no one knows.
Also Team Bottcher was not a 5 person team. Wtf?
In bigger news: Gushue says he's not retiring. https://twitter.com/CurlingInside/s...602583454982146
Assuming Gallant moves it would be great to see Gushue and Nichols with two NL post-junior players. There's finally a real prospect of a post-Gushue team there and Brier experience/mentorship would help a lot. Jeff Thomas coaches the current junior team NL that is at the Brier, real potential there.
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| 03-04-22 10:27AM |
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oliviertoisel
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Good discussion between Gushue and Bob Weeks about residency and team changes: https://www.tsn.ca/video/~2393593 (latter half of the video)
Good points made by both about how unfair residency is to smaller provinces. Sounds like Gushue is arguing against residency and in talks with Curling Canada. But sounds pessimistic. Also sounds like sticking together would be an option for them if not for residency.
I'm sticking by my earlier position that they should change residency to skip's province of residence and no other requirements. I it could allow a more realistic chance for every province to put together a competitive team. And what better time to make the change than when your dumb rules force your Olympic medalist team to split up because one member wants to live in the same province as his wife. Imagine Scotland splitting Mouat up because Bobby Lammie wants to move from Stirling to Aberdeen or something.
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Originally posted by curlingclips
What's the difference between a 5 person team and a 5 person rink?
I'm a geezer and still refer to the people I curl with as a rink. At some point they started using the term team instead of rink. What's next, calling sheets lanes?? Slippery slope to absolute chaos......
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| 03-04-22 11:32AM |
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If you are a Curlzone super VIP member you get access to the special page where teams post openings. The following changes have been made but not announced.
BJ is joining Jacobs. Gallant is skipping Kennedy, Fry and Walker. Howard and March are joining Epping. Tardi joining Gushue. Koe and Hebert getting the Lott brothers.
Lawes, Peterman, Mcewen gettiing Njegovan. Fleury, Cameron and Weagle teaming up in NOnt. Entire Homan team taking year off. JJones moving east to skip StGeorges. Roque to play 3rd for Scheidegger.
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| 03-04-22 11:35AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by hogged again
If you are a Curlzone super VIP member you get access to the special page where teams post openings. The following changes have been made but not announced.
BJ is joining Jacobs. Gallant is skipping Kennedy, Fry and Walker. Howard and March are joining Epping. Tardi joining Gushue. Koe and Hebert getting the Lott brothers.
Lawes, Peterman, Mcewen gettiing Njegovan. Fleury, Cameron and Weagle teaming up in NOnt. Entire Homan team taking year off. JJones moving east to skip StGeorges. Roque to play 3rd for Scheidegger.
I hear de Cruz will be skipping Edin's rink, too.
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| 03-04-22 11:45AM |
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hoggedrock
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… seriously? It seems no way those are the changes, and that they are accessible to be seen as a “VIP”.
Fleury, Cameron and Weagle is the most random pairing, which convinces me this has to be satirical.
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| 03-04-22 01:46PM |
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Dangermouse
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Originally posted by MeaghanEdwards
I hear de Cruz will be skipping Edin's rink, too.
A Swiss player skipping a Swedish team?
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| 03-04-22 01:51PM |
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alex
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Originally posted by hogged again
I'm a geezer and still refer to the people I curl with as a rink. At some point they started using the term team instead of rink. What's next, calling sheets lanes?? Slippery slope to absolute chaos......
We are well on the way.
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| 03-04-22 02:21PM |
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Jill Brothers from NS to join team Crawford in NB.
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curlingclips
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Originally posted by hogged again
What's next, calling sheets lanes??
WCF is making a conscious effort to disambiguate terms. A rink can also refer to the building, hence now we have teams. Draws can also refer to a type of shot, hence we now sessions.
They're not doing this just to piss you off. If you're upset because there are new terms that are less ambiguous and are better understood going forward for eternity at the cost of raising the eyebrows of old school traditionalists who are dying down year after year, then that's on you.
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