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Doesn't really answer many questions. Who are the teams going to be? Usually picked by provinces but some aren't even curling right now.
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| 12-01-20 10:12PM |
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| 12-01-20 10:21PM |
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The Usual Suspects Brier . . . ! ! !
Perhaps a 3 or 4 team playoff in Quebec, PEI, NS & NB.
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| 12-01-20 10:36PM |
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Maybe not McEwen. The article I read said there was no wild card playin game on the schedule so I don't know if McEwen gets in cuz he was WC last year or whether the WC has been ditched for this year.
I don't see Manitoba having playdowns this year even though they are scheduled for Selkirk so Gunnlaugson gets a return to the Brier.
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| 12-01-20 10:39PM |
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Curious that 9 teams from 5 provinces go to hub in Calgary one the worst covid hot spots in Canada. Crazy with a capital C. For a supposed health and safety first, this is down right stupid. Why not pick a spot where there is single or double digits per day vs 1000 a day cases. Somewhere in the Atlantic makes much more sense, so long as incoming teams are pre-tested and tested daily and adhere to covid rules locally.
If anything, just shut it all down for the year. It's not like there'll be fans in the stands. Suck it up and take a year off. Is curling Canada that greedy they would risk the health and safety of the teams and fans all for the almighty dollar? The NFL is on line 2, saying hey, we thought we were the only ones willing to literally risk lives for profit.
Might be a little over the top, but, seriously, why risk it?
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| 12-02-20 06:17AM |
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yeah, it makes total sense to pick one of canada's worst affected cities to hold that bubble. call me skeptical but i am not confidant at all that this will actually happen. wouldnt be surprised if the province does an about face and calls this off at some point
even if they dont that article doesnt actually answer many questions. there's a huge question mark around whether or not international teams will even be allowed in for the worlds or the grand slams.
not to mention what does qualification even look like for teams. without provincials you're looking at just calling back every team from last year, which is great for them but sucks for everyone else.
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AB makes no sense. Kenney is in complete denial about the Covid pandemic. No masks, no restrictions, no support for the AMA, in general no guts.
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| 12-02-20 10:34AM |
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I want curling to continue but you're taking a big risk here. I know hockey rid it in Alberta but that was at a time when things weren't that bad. On top of that I didn't see any kind of plan for what happens if there's a positive before or during these events
Curling won't get much revenue from holding an event with no fans so why not write the season off and try again next season when there's a vaccine and things are in better shape
To spite what tje curlers themselves will , im sure say curling is risky at this time. Close contact is almost inevitable and there's the volunteers to think of. Teams might be disciplined but will they
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Curious that 9 teams from 5 provinces go to hub in Calgary one the worst covid hot spots in Canada. Crazy with a capital C. For a supposed health and safety first, this is down right stupid. Why not pick a spot where there is single or double digits per day vs 1000 a day cases. Somewhere in the Atlantic makes much more sense, so long as incoming teams are pre-tested and tested daily and adhere to covid rules locally.
If anything, just shut it all down for the year. It's not like there'll be fans in the stands. Suck it up and take a year off. Is curling Canada that greedy they would risk the health and safety of the teams and fans all for the almighty dollar? The NFL is on line 2, saying hey, we thought we were the only ones willing to literally risk lives for profit.
Might be a little over the top, but, seriously, why risk it?
I agree. But I'm not sure curling Canada can afford to lose an entire season. They , I can't imagine have much money. Even lbless than the cfl. I'm sure money is the factor here. But , again I'm not sure how much they'll earn with no fans
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I want curling to continue but you're taking a big risk here. I know hockey rid it in Alberta but that was at a time when things weren't that bad. On top of that I didn't see any kind of plan for what happens if there's a positive before or during these events
Curling won't get much revenue from holding an event with no fans so why not write the season off and try again next season when there's a vaccine and things are in better shape
To spite what tje curlers themselves will , im sure say curling is risky at this time. Close contact is almost inevitable and there's the volunteers to think of. Teams might be disciplined but will they
The plan is to salvage all or more of the TV revenue, a good portion of sponsorship revenue even in the loom of losing all gate, souvenir & patch revenues.
Putting on a TV Brier and/or Scotties might actually be a more profitable endeavor than a full event where committees have to ante up 100s of thousands of dollars for staff, food, transportation, hotels, CCA payoffs, massive misc. expenses like advertising.
Ignoring all the risks of covid-19 spread, infection, hospitalization and potential deaths the CCA's decision is definitely driven by greed - but greed has a nasty habit of being disguised as humanity!
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Another obstacle in getting the teams here for worlds is that the border will still be closed. Pro athletes have gotten exempt.. the problem is curlers are not seen ad pro athletes by the majority
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| 12-02-20 01:28PM |
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Not sure pro athletes are completely exempt. Raptors not playing in Toronto probably.
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Another obstacle in getting the teams here for worlds is that the border will still be closed. Pro athletes have gotten exempt.. the problem is curlers are not seen ad pro athletes by the majority
I'm pretty sure the CCA and the World committee are working with the federal govt. Prolly at the deputy minister level - lots of e-mails and registered letters being exchanged. Phone calls and meetings will follow as the event nears.
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I'm pretty sure the CCA and the World committee are working with the federal govt. Prolly at the deputy minister level - lots of e-mails and registered letters being exchanged. Phone calls and meetings will follow as the event nears.
I'm sure they are.i am also sure they want them exempt from the 2 week quarantine, which I'm against.
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Originally posted by IN-OFF-FOR-2
Curious that 9 teams from 5 provinces go to hub in Calgary one the worst covid hot spots in Canada. Crazy with a capital C. For a supposed health and safety first, this is down right stupid. Why not pick a spot where there is single or double digits per day vs 1000 a day cases. Somewhere in the Atlantic makes much more sense, so long as incoming teams are pre-tested and tested daily and adhere to covid rules locally.
If anything, just shut it all down for the year. It's not like there'll be fans in the stands. Suck it up and take a year off. Is curling Canada that greedy they would risk the health and safety of the teams and fans all for the almighty dollar? The NFL is on line 2, saying hey, we thought we were the only ones willing to literally risk lives for profit.
Might be a little over the top, but, seriously, why risk it?
Yep, send them all to the new Covid central! Just send Einarson & Gushue to the worlds and figure out the Olympic trials later...if Canada doesn’t finish in the to 6, they don’t go to the Olympics anyway.
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I'm sure they are.i am also sure they want them exempt from the 2 week quarantine, which I'm against.
Thats all they're talking about. The federal govt. couldn't put together a national curling event if they were injected with LSD.
Lobbying the feds is what most groups who want to create exceptions do - exceptions unavailable for the vast majority of Canadians . . . ! ! !
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Yep, send them all to the new Covid central! Just send Einarson & Gushue to the worlds and figure out the Olympic trials later...if Canada doesn’t finish in the to 6, they don’t go to the Olympics anyway.
I agree about BOTH Gushue & Einarson.
Can't imagine Goo finishing out of the Top 4 in any worlds that doesn't have Kevin Koe, B Bottcher or Jacobs Gang nipping at his heels. Goo is just too good at one thing - MAKING SHOTS to finish any worse than Top 4. Nik Edin is the ever-present monster and there's always one or 2 other teams that can run wild with CURL-O-MANIA and challenge.
Einarson is a different kettle. Kerri is a gloriously terrific curler - when she's at her best. But too often Einarson isn't at her best. Val Sweeting is an extremely competent and above average 3rd but she rarely dominates games, especially when Einarson is off her own game.
Meilleur & Birchard are the best of the best, perhaps only threatened by Homan's front soldiers and perhaps The Swedish fronters.
The Swedes will always be trouble at worlds. Same with the newly re-constituted Swiss. Never know what shape the Asians will show up in - one of the Asian teams always seems to rise to the top. And the Americans always take it upon themselves to be Canada-Killers.
That said, even a mediocre and out of sorts Einarson should be able to slip into Top 6 worlds.
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I'm a big curling fan but just don't see the upside in playing national championships this year.
Having said that, I am sure they will go on as the CCA are mostly incompetent and will not be able to withstand the pressure they will get from outside.
TSN is desperate for content and curling is a low cost, high ratings moneymaker.
The Brier is Tim Horton's big event.
The Scotties is Scott Paper's big event and they are one of the few companies that is making bank during the pandemic.
All of the above will be lobbying heavily and the CCA will put bucks first at the end of the day.
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I agree , just send gushue and einarson. Give them the chance they didn't get last year.
I think what we will find is a lot of countries will likely just send last year's champions. With the exception of Asia, which have held national championships.
Provinces will probably do the same
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Dr. Fauci, a 45% curler at best would recommend cancelling national events slated for early to mid 2021. I agree.
Perhaps hold a MEGA-BRIER + MEGA-SCOTTIES in late 2021 or early 2022 featuring 22 men's teams and 20 women's teams in a bubble-like setting with limited live fans (perhaps 500 well-spaced paying big buckets for their privilege)
Memories of the Winnipeg Bonspiel which until it phased down, usually had 2000-2500 drinkers, er 500 to 650 teams.
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Quebec right now will try to play shorter provincials and ask teams to write their curling CV's so they can pick their representatives if provincials can't happen. I'm sure it will be the same way in other provinces.
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I'm sure they are.i am also sure they want them exempt from the 2 week quarantine, which I'm against.
I agree with you. Not urgent enough for exemption.
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there's no reason that, now that teams know dates they cant plan to come earlier and do that 2 week quarantine
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