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08-10-18 01:44PM
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Curling in the GTA

A golf and country club in the GTA that tolerates curling has just raised its fees by 30%...one way to get rid of curling - raise the fees. The GTA already lost one G&CC - Scarboro. Hopefully no more. Maybe it's time for Toronto to get a new curling facility built...

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I don’t like paying higher fees than necessary, but, I assume they raised the fees because the costs/revenue ratio was deemed unacceptable for that club. There seems to be clubs that need more members and an equal number of clubs that are at capacity. Higher fees will deter some members from joining, but, a club has to be financially viable to survive. Still, a 30% increase is a bummer.

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Exactly - there is a preconceived notion that curlers are cheap. However, the more amenities a club has the more expensive it is to run. Utilities, wages etc have all risen. I know of clubs in Ontario's cottage country that only run from October 1 to March 30 so they can avoid the summer utility rates which kick in April 1.

In a big city, things cost more. If you want to curl at a Country Club and get to use it (dining) all year round, now you pay for it.

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"Maybe it's time for Toronto to get a new curling facility.."

Perhaps it is, but it would appear that the probability of this happening is somewhere between slim and none, and I suspect Slim left the building 20 years ago.

The basic problem here becomes evident when you examine the economics of building and operating a facility in Toronto. Assuming a facility of six ice sheets plus a clubhouse of approximately 10,000 - 12,000
sq.ft., the capital cost today would probably be somewhere in the $5,000,000 - $7,000,000 range, including project consulting and contingency. But, when you add in the prohibitive cost of land anywhere in the Toronto area, the whole project immediately becomes purely academic.

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Good point, so the curlers currently curling at Country Clubs should start engaging and using it and enjoying lots of choice of leagues and ice times.

The regular curling clubs in the GTA are packed.

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