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03-04-18 11:13PM
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**** EDITOR's NOTE: Thanks for sharing your story CURLER1, am removing all the off-topic discussion though to try and get the thread back on topic. ****

I think that Team Canada looks pretty good, going to be hard to beat. I hope McEwen can keep his strength up for the week.

I see they play each other tomorrow night, surely that will be the televised game.

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If Epping is the best ON can send to the Brier, then competitive curling in Ontario is in serious trouble,



i don't agree with that at all. epping has a very good team. he has strategy issues but he is a top team and if he's waving the flag for ontario they are in good hands.

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canada has looked good. but take into consideration who they played. they played 2 of the weaker teams here not expected to make the playoffs or even out of the group. things will get tougher now

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7500 hits for brier 2018
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I'm concerned for the future of this event. When I watch the games I am seeing a club team getting pummelled by a pro team. Like watching someone with a 30 handicap golf against Phil Mickleson.

Is it time to perhaps have a separate curling tour for the elites and keep the Brier for the "amateurs"? For the trials, designate certain events as qualifiers.

Don't get me wrong, Quebec played well against SK - or did Laycock just have an off night?

However, those who play on the Grand Slam are in a different level...

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I'm concerned for the future of this event. When I watch the games I am seeing a club team getting pummelled by a pro team. Like watching someone with a 30 handicap golf against Phil Mickleson.

Is it time to perhaps have a separate curling tour for the elites and keep the Brier for the "amateurs"? For the trials, designate certain events as qualifiers.

Don't get me wrong, Quebec played well against SK - or did Laycock just have an off night?

However, those who play on the Grand Slam are in a different level...



I agree. There should not be teams at a national championship that would be lucky to win a club championship at most Canadian curling clubs.

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Congrats to Brad Gushue on becoming the winningest skip ever in the brier. Also, on the same day, congrats to Greg Smith on becoming the winningest NFLD skip, other than Brad, since 2006.

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McEwen team looking in trouble until 10th, then a great shot by Mike. Must have been satisfying and a relief and really hard on Murphy who played well and looked like a winner.

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Never saw sooo many misses in so few games

Some great ones thou

Hoefully its the rocks , ice , salt and sand from outside , or aliens entertaining themselves

If a couple of announcers talked less ( no talking during delivery til rock stops ) and the players that are micd were allowed to say what yhey are thinking ( expletives deleted ) - it would be more fun to watch .

Actually analysis is ok .. babbling and blaming players for missing makes me mute them .. its hard to watch a shot with 5 sec face shots while she and brian sometimes prattles

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Increasingly obvious Team Gushue & Team Jacobs are the class of this year's Brier field.

Next two are the Manitoba teams led by Carruthers & McWildcard

Carruthers squad is a slightly weaker version of Team Gushue (both nuanced teams featuring dominant 3rds; unfortunately Gushue is curling's intellectual colossus and dwarves Reid in the rock placement dept.
McEwen is a lesser version of The Jacobs Gang - both hi horsepower squads but Jacobs is just a bit more powerful - probably at all positions other than lead.

Quick rating:

1. Gushue
2. Jacobs
3. Carruthers
4. McEwen

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I agree. There should not be teams at a national championship that would be lucky to win a club championship at most Canadian curling clubs.



Have to agree, as a national championship at the top level should be the pinnacle. There is something wrong when the multiplication factor at the Brier and Scotties is lower than at many Slams.


Another thing to consider is that numerous teams across Canada devote much time, energy and money to becoming elite. They spend tons of money to get better and travel across provinces and the country to play in events. Many of these teams don’t stand a chance at playing in a Brier or Scotties because there is at least one or more better teams in the prov, so their time and money don’t count for the National championships.


Then CC gives a free entry to a team who hasn’t even played together, hasn’t travelled much, or hasn’t spent much money to even enter a bonspiel or two. As mentioned by Guido, these teams couldn’t even win a club championship at most clubs and they’re playing in the Brier or Scotties. You can also say the better teams and elite teams have paid their dues… they have devoted much time, energy and money to curling to become better teams., so maybe more of them should play in a Nat championship.


I understand how CC wants to include all prov and territories in the nat events, as they want to build the sport everywhere. What I don’t understand is how you can include a team from NU and it has a skip from Ontario; you have a team from the YK and it has a third from Edmonton and not sure the skip doesn't live in AB; you have a team from the NT and it has a third from Alberta or SK, but not NT… how does that build the sport in the NU, YK or the NT???

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Unbeaten Magic Mike & his Time Machines subdued rather easily by the Goo Goo Dolls tonite.

Goo had the match in hand from the get-go.

McEwen almost forced Gushue to make an easy open hit on his last rock but it didn't even come down to that.

As stated previously, Gushue can torment the best teams with advanced rock positioning (giving Gushue the chances to advance raises) where the opponent is usually stymied and has no choice but joining the circus!

Still expect Gushue, Jacobs, Carruthers, McEwen on the weekend - only other intervention is if McEwen or Carruthers stagger and John Epping is there with his pooper-skooper!

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Only took 2.5 days for the cream to come to the top. The CC needs to rein in the maverick provincial associations whose execs see the Brier as a free trip to the south. These provincials need to stop pretending that they are "growing" the game.

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same 2 days for essentially professional teams to ride to top in slams

playing club curling once or twice a week with friends does not make for a competitive playing field

aqll the changes like gfgz etc are a great equalizer - and to be fair the brier brings out the best in all that attend -0 lots of close games and great shots

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massive win for epping over carruthers this morning.

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massive win for epping over carruthers this morning.


John took a page out of the Gushue playbook and tormented Reid with amazing rock positioning. Reid flubbed a couple and started riverboat gambling once he was down without hammer.

This thing still boils down to a Battle of the Brads (TSN, you can steal that one, its FREE)

Gushue seems focused and on his game like never before. His rock positioning is far advanced past the rest of the field. Jacobs brutal power may be able to withstand Gushue - for much of the game.

Basically the rest of the tourney is a battle for silver. Jacobs, McEwen, Carruthers and possibly Mr. Dunstone & Mr. Epping trying valiantly to insinuate themselves into the chase.

CONGRATS TO BRAD GUSHUE - 2 STRAIGHT BRIER WINS (ONLY THING LEFT IS TO SEE IF HE FLIES THRU THIS THING UNDEFEATED)

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Probably should have repped Canada at this year's Olympics but chose a bad time to go out of sorts at trials when Koe rose up like the monster he is . . .

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Too many predictable outcomes. The field is not balanced enough, and the games have produced very little drama because of it. It's just a boring tournament right now, which is too bad. The playoffs should be good, though.

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Too many predictable outcomes. The field is not balanced enough, and the games have produced very little drama because of it. It's just a boring tournament right now, which is too bad. The playoffs should be good, though.


well.. we did get quebec beating saskatchewan and nova scotia beating alberta. both of those are considered upsets.

and we had a few close ones. prince edward island nearly beat saskatchewan, british columbia nearly beat alberta and nova scotia nearly beat wild card.

but yeah, for the most part it's gone as expected unfortunately

as for the playoffs. well..you'd hope there'd be more excitement and drama. unfortunately it's probably still going to come down to canada, wild card, northern ontario and manitoba. though i hope that we get some different faces at the end. ontario and saskatchewan are probably the teams with the best chances to upset that predicted final 4

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5 days of practise - brier starts thursday morning


first end gushe v botcher

what crappy ice to play a brier on

6 inches more ice and its 10 -15 ft faster ..

no wonder the best dont win every time - just mostly !

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well.. we did get quebec beating saskatchewan and nova scotia beating alberta. both of those are considered upsets.

and we had a few close ones. prince edward island nearly beat saskatchewan, british columbia nearly beat alberta and nova scotia nearly beat wild card.

but yeah, for the most part it's gone as expected unfortunately

as for the playoffs. well..you'd hope there'd be more excitement and drama. unfortunately it's probably still going to come down to canada, wild card, northern ontario and manitoba. though i hope that we get some different faces at the end. ontario and saskatchewan are probably the teams with the best chances to upset that predicted final 4



Pretty much form chart curling - but the team you wrote off so eloquently early, Bottcher is really starting to power up.

Giving Goo a real run for his money this a.m. as both teams seem to be fine with 75% curling.

Bottcher could disrupt Jacobs, Reid & Magic Mike's plans for silver.

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Pretty much form chart curling - but the team you wrote off so eloquently early, Bottcher is really starting to power up.

Giving Goo a real run for his money this a.m. as both teams seem to be fine with 75% curling.

Bottcher could disrupt Jacobs, Reid & Magic Mike's plans for silver.



never at any time did i write alberta off.

unlike you, who's written the entire field off and just proclaimed gushue champion

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So games in last RR draw that that matter - Epping versus Laycock. Laycock avoids TB with a win. Murphy vs Geall. Murphy advances. No?

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So games in last RR draw that that matter - Epping versus Laycock. Laycock avoids TB with a win. Murphy vs Geall. Murphy advances. No?


Laycock advances no matter. If Murphy wins he is in but if he loses there could be 3 teams with 3-4 record

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i'm never able to get through an entire laycock match and now it's no different today

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Barring total collapse by Team Gushue I'm still shopping a Gushue vs. The Northern Ontario Chain Gang Brier final....

Only concern now is that McEwen & Reid are starting to show their colors and they aren't all that bright.

Might be pooper-scoopering the event for bronze or the wooden medal for 4th spot.

Brandon Botcher - and his West Side Story are starting to push people around - may be maturing before our very eyes. They weren't supposed to be ready for a couple years - NOW ITS ON.

Right now: Brier favorites percentages.

Gushue 42%
Jacobs 37%
Botcher 11%
McEwen 3.5%
Reid 3.5%
Epping 3%

No others need apply.

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