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04-06-13 03:28PM
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I would expect Brad will go more agressive now that he has the hammer in even end situation.

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6-6 with hammer in 10th

No mistakes Jacobs.

Wish it was streaming.

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No mistakes Jacobs.

Wish it was streaming.



No mistake on that draw. Good game, especially some of Fry's shots. Not much time between games though...2 hours.

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Great game. Supper shot by Fry in 10.

Time to beat the Scotts

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Very good game. Fry was all over Frederiksen in performance but in a nutshell, the shots that HAD to be made Canada did but Denmark didn't.

Now it's the Old Firm tonight.

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I have to wonder if young teams like Jacobs, Homan etc...don't get enough experience playing internationally? When they encounter foreign ice and/or teams,they don't seem to have the mental strength to beat them.

Like ML I fell asleep before the game between Edin & Murdoch finished, but from what I did see, Sweden looked unstoppable and Scotland looked horrible especially Brewster.

Edin plays all over the world, maybe the CCA should be sending the young up and coming teams to play overseas rather than the usual old suspects. JMO, but it looks like Canada is falling apart with the bickering & second guessing. Where is their coach?



I don't understand all this overdone concern when Canada doesn't win world events.

You site Edin who has yet to win a Gold yet he's at the event almost every year now. If Jacobs lost with a medal he's way ahead of the pace Edin set despite having to qualify out of a much tougher country. If he wins well like Koe he did something Edin would still be hunting for.

Homan lost by a fraction to Muirhead and clearly established herself as one of the top 3 or 4 young woman Curlers in the world. Some might say the two of them are joint first, but its too early to make that call. Again, its hard for Homan to "keep up" with Muirhead because one has to earn her spot and the other has a strong chance of simply being selected every year.

Canadians don't have to travel outside of Canada to get strong competition. It might be time for some of you to realize any sport with a 12 team event isn't going to be easy for anyone to win. Think of baseball. Pick the BEST team in any year preseason in either league and see if they go to the World Series. Even the very best $200m+ payroll Yankee teams were no lock to go to the World Series. The Phillies with what looked like a unstoppable pitching rotation a few years ago did NOT go to the World Series. And baseball has a 162 game schedule and lengthy playoff series to decide things. Curling it always comes down to 1-3 sudden death games.

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Good point. We should be more concerned about a single club closing and less worried about winning the worlds.

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Good point. We should be more concerned about a single club closing and less worried about winning the worlds.


Its nice when they win but yes I am more concerned about the numbers of players aged 20-30 in the sport in Southern Ontario.
Our area's community is aging on the ice. Junior programs need to improve and cultivate interest for all young people, especially those who seem to enjoy the competitions. I think Homan's success is likely more of a special case of one club or area ( Ottawa ) where a few parents/coaches/mentors banded together and cultivated a positive Curling experience for those girls from a very early age.

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Great game. Supper shot by Fry in 10.

Time to beat the Scotts



Excellent game. Jacob's willingness to throw the tricky double for two was a good sign they are going to win this thing or go down in style doing so. Fry and Jacob's pressure shooting in the 10th suggest they funneled that positive energy into a really good mental state conducive to winning.

Well done the whole team.

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Canadian clubs closing v. medal obsession

So, how many Canadian curling clubs have closed in the last 10 years? How many are on the ropes? How many have trouble filling all their spiel slots?

I learned to curl in the high plains of the USA where the standing - but true - joke at my club was we'd always get beaten by just about any Candian team anytime even if they were drunk. The depth of the club field of our northern neighbor was just unstoppable 20+ years ago.

But, curling has changed in the last 10 years. Thank you Olympics! This Men's weekend and the last Women's Worlds proves it. Canadians are still expected to win, but now the rest of the world looks at Canucks just to medal, not always take the gold. Who has the best strategy, best front end conditioning and best stomach in a clutch wins these Olympic-related events.

So.... maybe this whole Curling-in-Olympics thing was just a nepharious plot to make the Canucks a bit more vulnerable at spiels? We south of the border types needed the whole world to get traction against the Canadian juggernaut. (evil grin)

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How can you take Tom Brewster out? They are crazy. Greg Drummond is very good but you can't take Brewster out of a do or die game. I'm calling a loss for Scotland.

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Takes a ton of gall (or Johnny Walker Red) to take out Tom Terrific (Brewster) and put in Young Greg. Always liked Young Greg and yes, the Scots have a ton of gall. Murdoch and Brewster are pals but the mix of them at vice and skip was like mixing gas with matches.

If Swedes would have thrashed Murdoch 9-2 or somesuch, I suspect Murdoch might have been extracted and Brewster's full team would have competed tonite. But Brewster curled poorly and thus he was taken out of the lineup.



Its the russian way of doing things and i have to say i really do not like it.

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Excellent overview. The match was rarely in doubt. Brad & Fry still fret a bit too much about the euro's "Spooky Shots" a la angle double raises or the like. To beat the spooky shot you occasionally have to make the spooky shot. Thats what happened tonite. Stjerne made his normal raise-ups but Jacobs made the best one and it ended up killing off the Danes.



They got a little lucky not to give up a 3 in the 3rd end though. If rasmus makes that its suddenly 4-2 for them and it changes things. If the rest of the game plays out the way this one did then denmark probably wins.

although i would bet that if rasmus had made that shot for 3 then there is no way brad would have blanked 4 and 5.

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Exclamation Really Scotland????

Choosing to draw for 1 instead of making the almost routine nose hit double which of blanked the end. WOW!

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How can you take Tom Brewster out? They are crazy. Greg Drummond is very good but you can't take Brewster out of a do or die game. I'm calling a loss for Scotland.


That might be grounds for Brewster to move to Canada. He should have no problems finding some fellow Scotsmen. Or he can see what happens after 2014 in Canada.

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That was pretty much the game's turning point. I wonder if it was inexperience or just poor weight/angle control that prevented the 3-spot from being executed?



was definately just a weight control issue. Rasmus was going for the 3 but was to heavy

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If Brewster wants an auto-berth why not take his entire team to New York City, plenty of Scottish supporters, etc. Of course, the aspect of up-rooting wives, families, etc. is somewhat unknown. Much easier if he just crossed the little ocean and opened up shop curling for France.



LOL he'd do very well in both countries, the wives may prefer France. I want Canada's front end for my Sunday morning open, good sweeping along with pleasant eye candy.

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Yikes. Jacobs missed the check mate move! then Murdoch misses the triple and gives up 1. Talking about dodging a bullet and then some.

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There is way too much flip flopping on Canada's shots. Jacobs is having his calls questioned far too often.

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There is way too much flip flopping on Canada's shots. Jacobs is having his calls questioned far too often.


Just because he plays "skip" doesn't mean he has to be a dictator. You see it as questioning, but as curlers we consider it a conversation. Ultimately Brad plays the shot he most agrees with, so don't make him out to be a pushover, and don't make the other guys out as being insubordinate.

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Soren Grahn needs to be fired! Yes Brewster had a bad game yesterday but you cannot sit a 2-time silver medalist skip when it is a win or go home game!

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Soren Grahn needs to be fired! Yes Brewster had a bad game yesterday but you cannot sit a 2-time silver medalist skip when it is a win or go home game!


It would be quite the thing if Murdoch gets benched during the bronze medal game and Brewster goes back to skipping.

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Agree, one bad game doesn't mean sitting out a good player. But Canada did curl well and hopefully didn't use up their luck in this game. Fry was phenomenal tonight. Jacobs and the front end hotties kept their cool too. Good going Canada.

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The problem for the Scottish team is that all five players are great, so no matter what, a great player is going to have to sit. However, this is a problem they created. That's why no one tries to have a five man team. It just doesn't work long term.

Anyway, the best two teams are in the final. Should be a dandy.

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There is way too much flip flopping on Canada's shots. Jacobs is having his calls questioned far too often.


I learned a few years ago that you offer alternatives to the skipper. Once he makes up his mind, you have to get behind the shot 110%. Fry keeps going on after Jacobs has made up his mind. Talk about other shots, but when skipper says this is what he wants, then you shut your trap.

The shot in 8, you should be playing the scoreboard. Force them to 1 and keep going. Jacobs was caught between shots when he threw and was lucky they didn't give up a 3 ball.

The nice thing is Canada is starting to play like they did in the first few games.

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