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02-14-18 08:37PM
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Joan went on a rant about Canada's 5th, how the team should take who they want until silenced by Harris.

Team Koe has their 5th & coach...team Homan has their 5th, coach & the national coach! Is CC not confident in Homan? When they won the world's they had Cheryl K & their coach/ psychologist. With the nervous curling I'm watching, maybe CC should have left well enough alone...IMHO.

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Joan went on a rant about Canada's 5th, how the team should take who they want until silenced by Harris.

Team Koe has their 5th & coach...team Homan has their 5th, coach & the national coach! Is CC not confident in Homan? When they won the world's they had Cheryl K & their coach/ psychologist. With the nervous curling I'm watching, maybe CC should have left well enough alone...IMHO.



Didn't catch Joan's rant - or Mike's muzzle. What happened?
Watching some nervous strategy and play by Canada against a medal possibility in Korea. I suspect Homan will eventually shot-pelt the hell out of the Koreans before subduing them in 10th end final stones - or an extra end!

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Didn't catch Joan's rant - or Mike's muzzle. What happened?
Watching some nervous strategy and play by Canada against a medal possibility in Korea. I suspect Homan will eventually shot-pelt the hell out of the Koreans before subduing them in 10th end final stones - or an extra end!




Middle of the 5th end, the camera stopped on Cheryl...Rainey noted that was the 5th...then the rant started.

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I agree 100% with Joan. I think that's the first time ever.

Why the meddling with Homan and not Koe? Because Koe would say go F yourself.

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I believe in Team Homan. They will still get a medal, and it probably should be gold. Still, this performance against South Korea is weak. Homan herself has had some shocking misses by wide margins. The game stats have Homan curling near 80%, but that doesn't tell the story. They might still beat South Korea, but I hope this is the one nervous game out of the way rather than an indication of things to come.

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I agree 100% with Joan. I think that's the first time ever.

Why the meddling with Homan and not Koe? Because Koe would say go F yourself.


Is that what's happening? I get the feeling Homan doesn't get bossed around much either.

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Korean team is 21 in order of merit and is the current asia pacific champs. I find the commentators acting surprised by their level of play. these are not naive curlers. They've been playing the circuit for years and earned their Oly spot - without the host team berth. http://www.worldcurl.com/oom/teams.php?teamid=109521

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I hope that CC is not paying the pycho coach a lot of $. He is not earning his keep tonight. And Renee - what are her qualifications to be head coach?

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Actually he'll be really earning his money tonight to talk them off the ledge after that call in 9. Run back never scores more than one with the angles. Dumb.

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Originally posted by IN-OFF-FOR-2 Actually he'll be really earning his money tonight to talk them off the ledge after that call in 9. Run back never scores more than one with the angles. Dumb.

Agree. Dumb call. Low percentage all the way, with the draw possible for 1. Shrugs. Ms Homan - on an earlier miss, I heard McCusker say "she was light" (which she was) and camera caught Rachel saying wrong ice. (not my fault). I've met skips that are never wrong. Yikes Psychs.

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Let's hope they shake it off because it doesn't get any easier vs Sweden next game

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That high risk, no reward call in ninth is result of a skip that has enjoyed much success and developed a certain arrogance and need of the "hero" shot thrill.

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Actually he'll be really earning his money tonight to talk them off the ledge after that call in 9. Run back never scores more than one with the angles. Dumb.
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Surely Emma could have talked her into the draw? Or was Rachel in such a mood the rest of the team just stayed quiet.

I'm not sure about their chances but hope this is a hiccup in the road to the finals.

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That high risk, no reward call in ninth is result of a skip that has enjoyed much success and developed a certain arrogance and need of the "hero" shot thrill.

She was potentially overcompensating for her earlier misses by trying the hero shot.

Based on how the South Koreans played that final end, Canada really should have been okay with 5-5 heading into the tenth. Maybe putting the pressure back on South Korea would have forced some mistakes instead of arrogantly trying to overwhelm their opponent with a miraculous shot.

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CrlrBroad, Emma tried. She tried. Thinking Rachel is a weak link. Mad about something and not caring. Really needs to snap out of it. I never get a sense that Homan enjoys the game. You gotta like curling to win. - I agree with arrogance comments too. She needs to be a team player.

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Agree. Dumb call. Low percentage all the way, with the draw possible for 1. Shrugs. Ms Homan - on an earlier miss, I heard McCusker say "she was light" (which she was) and camera caught Rachel saying wrong ice. (not my fault). I've met skips that are never wrong. Yikes Psychs.



Pretty standard stuff at all levels of curling. Kelly Scott & Gena were famous for it - Jennifer Jones/Cathy O/Lawes always used the "wrong ice" explanation but Homan was caught with her pants down by Joan/Mike who obviously witnessed her throwing it tight.

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I'm gonna let Raytch off the hook in game 1 cuz I believe JJ Jones would have done the same goofy thing - try the hero for a deuce vs. the safe but still difficult draw to the full 4.

Jones thinks the same - she assumes she's whipped when tied without hammer.

Same with Rachel - but the worst part is their was only a chance for 1 vs. the risk of giving the Koreans multiple points - so it was a very makeable shot for 1 (and the tie) vs. a wacko-tobacco shot for deuce (maybe 1.5% chance) and a 30% chance of getting one (the hard way)

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Far as I know , there are 8 games left. I’m sure they will do alright. Did nobody else see the back house weight shot. For 2 in the 9th???

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What's happening with Team Homan? It's not complicated, it's in fact a one word answer. Rachel. It's been the theme all season. They have had a very mediocre season, Roar of the Rings excepted. In the past it has been Emma who has been the least consistent player on the team with Rachel making everything no matter how much trouble Emma put her in. Now she ain't. She still can and hopefully will when the playoffs comes around. But it just ain't been her year. No matter how good you are not every year is going to be a great one. Took Martin three tries to win Olympic gold and he lost three of four World finals and he's generally considered the greatest curler of all time.

The good news is the front end is playing really solid and Emma is now pretty consistently great. Go Team Canada!

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The team who is having a banner year is Team Jones. They are #1 in the world, Canadian Champions and the leading money winner on the Slam circuit. Roar of the Rings excepted they have been the dominant team all season. Team Homan by contrast is 3rd on the year in terms of CTRS points, 2nd in the world and 9th in terms of money.

Tell you what though, Team Jones would trade places in a nano second if that meant they were playing right now. So I say again....Go Team Canada! :-)

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Yes, I'll admit Team Jones has been consistently better than Team Homan this season.
But when it counted at the roar of the rings Jennifer suddenly went sour when it counted and dropped her last 4 games to kill their chances.

The other team members were solid if not spectacular. So basically the same malady that broke Jones in the biggest pressure tourney of her year seems to have infested Homan for most of the entire year - excepting the roar, where she was steady, polishing off her semi-final opponent with ease and then moving in for the kill on CC Carey in the big one.

Don't know why - my old theory of course is that Rachel has been trying to rebuild herself (and thus her team) as a more nuanced curler (like Jones, like Muirhead, like Ott, even like Schmirler) . . . . a skip who can play draws & taps as well as massive hits & raise doubles!

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I hope that CC is not paying the pycho coach a lot of $. He is not earning his keep tonight. And Renee - what are her qualifications to be head coach?


Sonnenberg is a high performance curling consultant, a first-rate strategist, tactician, Smart and clever. Can't think of a better choice.

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When your teammates average a little under 90%, how do you lose? Folks, welcome to Rachel's world. Actually it all came down to 2 ends. Homan had last rock in both the 5th and the 9th, made two bonehead tactical decisions and then proceeded to miss both shots. Game over, lights out! Knowing Homan, I'm sure she is feeling badly about letting her team down against Korea. Let's hope she doesn't make things worse today.

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Man....really hope these teams don't meet in the Semi-final. Be an all time classic Gold medal game.

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Sonnenberg and Pyrtz might be solid players and decent coaches but they're not playing their own stones. Rachel has disavowed Rene on a couple occasions already - Rene wants the draw behind cover, Raytch plays the guard. DIfferent styles, different eras.

Prytz almost the same - Anna & Sara could use a better coach!

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