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In tennis and golf, top 20 is definitely considered elite level.
I'd say that top 50 - or even top 100 - is considered elite level in tennis and golf. There is not much difference between #3 and #33 in these sports.



The depth in men's golf might give credence to your idea for hat sport. But men's and women's tennis and women golf would not apply. GO to those rankings and how many people in the top 20 or so have won a major. But as I said you could have an exception with mens golf, but curling does not have the depth of field that golf does as a global whole


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Not much differently, though there are really no rankings for this, the 20th best baseball or hockey player in the world would also definitely be considered elite in their sport - and there, too, I'd say that the top 50 or 100 would even be considered elite. [/B]


You are now picking out individuals in a team sport, and don't think that this applies.

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The depth in men's golf might give credence to your idea for hat sport. But men's and women's tennis and women golf would not apply. GO to those rankings and how many people in the top 20 or so have won a major. But as I said you could have an exception with mens golf, but curling does not have the depth of field that golf does as a global whole


I'll admit that women's tennis is weak on depth... But men's tennis is definitely not. On any given day, the 100th ranked player can beat a top 5 player (ask the players themselves if you don't believe me - they'll tell you the same).
In men's tennis, there is very little difference in physical tennis ability within the top 100 or so - it's the mental differences that are responsible for one's place in the rankings, with the mentally stronger players at the top. But if a lower ranked player can get his head together for a match, he can beat just about anybody - because the physical ability and talent is there.

I'll still say that Shuster's team is elite level - because they can play - and beat - other elite level teams.
Every NHL, MLB, NBA, NFL team is also elite level - because that is the top level one can compete at. As long as Shuster's team can continue qualifying for at least some of the top level tournaments, they should be considered an elite level team.
In their sportsmanship, however, they are not elite level.

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