Like CurlingZone on Facebook
 
 
   
Welcome to CurlingZone, Guest!   Register Now!    
Already a member?   Login:              Forgot Password?
Runback - Custom Curling Wear
Watch the Grand Slam of Curling!
Disclaimer: CurlingZone does not represent or endorse the accuracy or reliability of any Content posted on any Forums area and you acknowledge that any reliance upon such Content shall be at your sole risk. Any Content placed on any Forums area by users and anonymous posters are the views of the user posting the statement, and do not represent the views of CurlingZone or our partners, advertisers or sponsors. By posting anonymously, you are allowing your IP address to be displayed for identification purposes. CurlingZone reserves the right to remove any post at its discretion without warning or explanation.
Pages (20): « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 [20]   Last Thread   Next Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Post A Reply
decade
Super Rockchucker

Registered: Jan 2011
Location:
Posts: 1139

Re: Re: Re: Re: Kudos all round

quote:
Originally posted by Unregistered


well your wrong to a degree. Yes alot of these teams get funded by their national associations but it is not their job to curl, they all have jobs outside of curling

the only ones who get payed to curl and get better are the chinese and maybe the russians..im not sure on them.



The Scottish team are fulltime curlers paid by their association. No other jobs needed. Commentators made reference to Eve practicing 4 times a day.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 03-25-13 04:33PM
decade is offline Click Here to See the Profile for decade Click here to Send decade a Private Message Find more posts by decade Add decade to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
misty1
Super Rockchucker

Registered: Sep 2011
Location:
Posts: 3653

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kudos all round

quote:
Originally posted by decade


The Scottish team are fulltime curlers paid by their association. No other jobs needed. Commentators made reference to Eve practicing 4 times a day.



I wasnt unaware scotland had gone to that kind of thing. I know china and russia do that but i didnt know they had

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 03-25-13 04:36PM
misty1 is offline Click Here to See the Profile for misty1 Click here to Send misty1 a Private Message Find more posts by misty1 Add misty1 to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
jhcurl
Super Rockchucker

Registered: Sep 2002
Location: US - CT
Posts: 1305

The other big difference is sponsorship. It is difficult to get a significant sponsor in the US when the "sponsor" is not shown on TV. Weed Man gets a bunch of coverage on TSN/CBC/Sportsnet that is unavailable in the US for Lawn Doctor.

Just the way of the world. Also, the US has 16,000 curlers nationwide. About 200 of those are at the competitive level. That is probably less than a single province.

So, for US teams to travel to good events in Canada/Europe a lot of that money is coming out of their pockets unless they are one of the 4 teams (men/women) supported by the USCA.

I worry about the future of US curling. Missing the Olympics for the men would be a really "bad" thing. No one wants to see the old days return when the Silver Broom was Canada, Scotland and the US. Could that happen, unknown. It all comes down to dollars and the Olympics. Ask the wrestling foundations. There is a reason golf is in the Olympics and it is not because they are great athletes.

JH

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 03-25-13 04:52PM
jhcurl is offline Click Here to See the Profile for jhcurl Click here to Send jhcurl a Private Message Visit jhcurl's homepage! Find more posts by jhcurl Add jhcurl to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
misty1
Super Rockchucker

Registered: Sep 2011
Location:
Posts: 3653

quote:
Originally posted by jhcurl
The other big difference is sponsorship. It is difficult to get a significant sponsor in the US when the "sponsor" is not shown on TV. Weed Man gets a bunch of coverage on TSN/CBC/Sportsnet that is unavailable in the US for Lawn Doctor.

Just the way of the world. Also, the US has 16,000 curlers nationwide. About 200 of those are at the competitive level. That is probably less than a single province.

So, for US teams to travel to good events in Canada/Europe a lot of that money is coming out of their pockets unless they are one of the 4 teams (men/women) supported by the USCA.

I worry about the future of US curling. Missing the Olympics for the men would be a really "bad" thing. No one wants to see the old days return when the Silver Broom was Canada, Scotland and the US. Could that happen, unknown. It all comes down to dollars and the Olympics. Ask the wrestling foundations. There is a reason golf is in the Olympics and it is not because they are great athletes.

JH



Even if im right and teal Clark doesnt do enough to get the US in directly i really cant see them missing out completely. Every other decent team should get in directly with maybe the exception of switzerland. The biggest challenges in the pre-qualifying event could be switzerland and if they arent there germany, japan and france. Depending on who the US would then send over id favor them to get through that

Definately agree with you that no one wants the sport to go back to a 3 country race. However I think thats what its been for a while now. With the excetpion of 2007 when germany got silver and the US got bronze and then the last 2 years its been all about scotland, norway and canada.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 03-25-13 05:00PM
misty1 is offline Click Here to See the Profile for misty1 Click here to Send misty1 a Private Message Find more posts by misty1 Add misty1 to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
nelsosi
Swing Artist

Registered: Mar 2012
Location: YYZ, Canada
Posts: 329

What about Sweden on the men's side?

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 03-26-13 10:20AM
nelsosi is offline Click Here to See the Profile for nelsosi Click here to Send nelsosi a Private Message Find more posts by nelsosi Add nelsosi to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
misty1
Super Rockchucker

Registered: Sep 2011
Location:
Posts: 3653

quote:
Originally posted by nelsosi
What about Sweden on the men's side?


thats why said with the exception of 2007 and then the last 2 years its been a 3 country race.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 03-26-13 11:05AM
misty1 is offline Click Here to See the Profile for misty1 Click here to Send misty1 a Private Message Find more posts by misty1 Add misty1 to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
KittyHisses
Swing Artist

Registered: Mar 2011
Location:
Posts: 298

quote:
Originally posted by misty1

Definately agree with you that no one wants the sport to go back to a 3 country race. However I think thats what its been for a while now. With the excetpion of 2007 when germany got silver and the US got bronze and then the last 2 years its been all about scotland, norway and canada.



2007 Worlds was extremely boring with a very low level of play from nearly all the times apart from a dominant and outstanding Howard. An old and past their best Kapp brothers team and a journeyman never to be heard from again U.S team there at the very end just tells all about the caliber of event it was. It made the final couple days a foregone conclusion to what would happen. I am sure Howard who was playing fabulously would have taken down anyone who stood before him anyway, but you still would have liked to see a real opponent for him towards the end.

If that is the alternative to a 3 team race, I will take the 3 team race with legitimate teams who play consistently well in Canada and abroad anyday. Anyway I disagree with you on the 3 team race. Sweden and Switzerland have always been major contenders the last 5 years since the forgettable 2007 Worlds.
So I would say there have always been atleast 5 contending teams.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 03-27-13 09:19PM
KittyHisses is offline Click Here to See the Profile for KittyHisses Click here to Send KittyHisses a Private Message Find more posts by KittyHisses Add KittyHisses to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
nelski
Super Rockchucker

Registered: Oct 2004
Location: The Mooring Ball
Posts: 1316

Just went to the WCF site to check to see if the Oly Qualifying countries were listed.

Looks like China and Japan are OUT and Korea will be the sole Pacific Rim country at Sochi.

Is this correct? Are there any more events. If the list they have posted is correct, Germany is also OUT and Denmark is IN. Russia qualified on their own merit, and not just as Host nation.

__________________
Substituted sliding for sailing. All Sails set. ^^

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 03-27-13 11:46PM
nelski is offline Click Here to See the Profile for nelski Click here to Send nelski a Private Message Find more posts by nelski Add nelski to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Unregistered
Guest

Registered: Not Yet
Location:
Posts: N/A

quote:
Originally posted by nelski
Just went to the WCF site to check to see if the Oly Qualifying countries were listed.

Looks like China and Japan are OUT and Korea will be the sole Pacific Rim country at Sochi.

Is this correct? Are there any more events. If the list they have posted is correct, Germany is also OUT and Denmark is IN. Russia qualified on their own merit, and not just as Host nation.



Basically correct (except for the Russia comment, because technically, they couldn't qualify on their own merrit ).

It came down to the last RR draw in Riga: Germany lost to Italy, the US won and China lost to Japan. By that, Korea kept ahead of Germany and China dropped out.

There will be an Olympic qualification event in December to determine the final two spots, with Germany, Italy, China, Japan, Czech Rep., Latvia and Norway. I talked to Tan Weidong in Riga, but even he didn't know the actual location or mode of competition of that event, it will be held somewhere in Europe. I heard different guesses from the German, Italian and Chinese teams, including Switzerland, Norway and Italy.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: 141.35.14.250

Old Post 03-28-13 04:54AM
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
nelsosi
Swing Artist

Registered: Mar 2012
Location: YYZ, Canada
Posts: 329

The final list is available for download here: http://www.worldcurling.org/olympic-qualification

It's remarkable that Korea was able to qualify despite the 0 for 2013. Also remarkable how far China has fallen since their 2009 victory.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 03-28-13 12:49PM
nelsosi is offline Click Here to See the Profile for nelsosi Click here to Send nelsosi a Private Message Find more posts by nelsosi Add nelsosi to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
radiowave
Hitting Paint

Registered: Feb 2013
Location: Ontario
Posts: 192

Great rebound for Rachel & crew. Although bronze wasn't the goal, it was a well played game right after the one they gave away. This team has a chance to be one of the all-time greats. They could have multiple Scotties before they hit 30 (except for Weagle). Can't wait for the trials and Sochi.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 03-28-13 01:46PM
radiowave is offline Click Here to See the Profile for radiowave Click here to Send radiowave a Private Message Find more posts by radiowave Add radiowave to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
All times are GMT. The time now is . Post New Thread    Post A Reply
Pages (20): « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 [20]   Last Thread   Next Thread
Show Printable Version | Email this Page | Subscribe to this Thread

Forum Jump:
Rate This Thread:

Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is OFF
vB code is ON
Smilies are ON
[IMG] code is ON
 
Championship
Click Event to Show Scoreboard
M: FujiCurl
W: FujiCurl
M: FujiCurl
Yamanakako, JPN
MENU: Teams | Scores | Standings | Playoffs
Draw: CF -- Mon, May 4 -- 9:00pm ET
Fukui, H
Takeda, N

Final
(8)
Komoda, K
Miyata, Y

Final
(7)
Eastern Time (ET)
Full Scoreboard  |  Play Fantasy Pick'em!  

MOST RECENT CZ FORUM POSTS

Rock Talk
Savill to Join Dacey in NS
Rock Talk
Russ Howard inducted into order of Canada
Rock Talk
Jennifer Jones Hosting Canada Day
Rock Talk
A new team for Jon Mead
Rock Talk
Which skill is most important ( 1 2 )
U.S.A. Curling
Arena Club Nationals
U.S.A. Curling
Samuel Fry
Gear Zone/Classifieds
Used measure for sale?
Rock Talk
What should the Mandate be for the next CEO of 'Curling Canada'?
Rock Talk
Bye-Bye Relegation ( 1 2 )
Rock Talk
Greg Stremlaw leaving Curling Canada - and now the rest of the story ( 1 2 )
Rock Talk
re: quality of TV commentary
Ontario Curling
Back from hiatus
U.S.A. Curling
US Open golf
Rock Talk
New Forum Rule/Suggestion for Sarcasm
Ontario Curling
OCA Competitions Review
Rock Talk
Mixed doubles becomes Olympic in 2018 ( 1 2 )
Rock Talk
Greatest 3rds All-Time (Canada)
U.S.A. Curling
MIxed Doubles in 2018
Rock Talk
Changes in Nova Scotia
Manitoba Curling
New teams and rumors?? ( 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
U.S.A. Curling
Summer Ramblings ( 1 2 )
Ontario Curling
Ontario New Teams & Rumours ( 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
U.S.A. Curling
Struggles of Building a Club
Junior Curling
2015 Vernon Junior Cash - Rick Cotter Memorial
Rock Talk
The Legend of Gary Ross
BC Curling
BC men's teams next season
U.S.A. Curling
Random Tuckisms
Ontario Curling
Whatever happened to the Ontario Curling Federation?
The Pit
Acceptible discussion in "The Pit"
U.S.A. Curling
The Triple Crown ( 1 2 )
U.S.A. Curling
HPP Selections Announced ( 1 2 )
Players/Teams Classifieds
masters team
U.S.A. Curling
Possible changes to US Junior Nationals
Rock Talk
Canada Cup 2015
Gear Zone/Classifieds
Goldline Quantum Z shoes
U.S.A. Curling
USCA Spring Board meeing
U.S.A. Curling
2015 Men's Worlds ( 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
Rock Talk
masters
U.S.A. Curling
So who got invites to the combine? ( 1 2 3 4 )
Gear Zone/Classifieds
2 Straw Curling Brooms
Job Postings
Head Ice Technician, St. Paul MN
Ice and Ice Makers
Ice Maker Needed in St. Paul MN
U.S.A. Curling
Ice Maker Needed at St Paul Curling Club
Players/Teams Classifieds
Looking for a men's team 2015/16 Ottawa
Manitoba Curling
Spots available in the Thistle's Thursday night mens league
U.S.A. Curling
Points Chase for the Continental Cup
Rock Talk
Road to the Rings Qualification Tweeked
Manitoba Curling
Summer ice in Manitoba
Rock Talk
Oldest Living Brier Winners (by position)
Post New Message  |  View All Forums

FANTASY PICK'EM

Click to Pick the Winner!
Who do you think will win?