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tuck
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World Men's and Women's

Nina and Team USA start out Worlds 1 and 1. The win is a quality win against Sweden. The loss came in an extra end against Scottish Eve. Normally and extra end loss to Eve would be nothing to hang your head about; but Eve got us by stealing in the 10th and stealing in the extra. That ain't cool; but at least the team rebounded with a promising win.

Face Shuster and Team USA men went over to the motherland to prep for Worlds. I think they did the same spiel last year on their way to bronze; but that Worlds was in Europe. I'm not sure this is the best timezone-jumping path the medal stand this year; but maybe the team loves Scotland. They went a mediocre 3 and 3 in a field that isn't all that great; but that isn't important. Their minds are on Worlds...which is exactly where their minds should be.

Go USA!

Ben Tucker

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BDure
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Registered: Feb 2016
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I wish the highlights would show more of the buildup. Roth was lying SIX before the hammer in one end. Sweden managed to cut it to one. But the highlights did show a couple of good shots from Roth, and she held her nerve perfectly on an open takeout to win.

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IMWright
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US Women blew it against Canada. Canada gave them several chances that the US did not capitalize on. Trying a tricky thin double for 2, when you're up 1 with hammer, instead of getting your guaranteed single. Then it ticks the guard and give up a steal of 2; not good strategy...

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southerncurler
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Eh. I think a worlds team will always play that double, they just missed it. It wasn't THAT tricky.

The ninth was just a disaster, like the broadcast commentator said it wasn't even a "difficult three" and really he was talking about vices ricks onwards.

After this the playoffs are likely out of reach, would probably need to run the table to make it, but qualifying for the Olympics is still at stake and at potential risk here. Czech doing well is not in our favor. Need Korea to keep laying losses on folks.

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TNH
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I felt the same way.

The double for the deuce was there and wasn't even that hard. She just threw it bad and USA was "on the wrong side of the foot".

The 9th was a disaster. USA had two beautiful center guards and Canada was only biting top four behind them with their 2nd played wide to the back eight. With 6 stones left, USA never once tried to bury a draw opting for play on the wing. No chance for a steal, no shrinking of the scoring area, hello three.

Oh well, at least it was a close game and kept me going after midnight.

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AlanMacNeill
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Through 7 games they are in the mix at 4-3, tied for third place...so very much in the running.

Yeah, they need to go 3-1 or 4-0 the rest of the way to be pretty sure they'll get there, but let's take a look at who they've got to play against:

Germany 3-4 so far...should be a good game, but within reach easily
Russia 4-3 so far...this one is critical, as the win would not only help their record, but hurt the Russian's record
Switzerland 4-3 so far...see above, substituting "Switzerland" for "Russia"
Korea 3-4 so far...should be a winnable game

So...they are very alive...with the chance to hang losses on two of the teams likely to be competing for the 3/4 slots...

I fancy their chances to at least be in a tiebreaker.

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BDure
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I'm actually a little worried about them securing an Olympic spot. The standings are quite crowded at 5-4 and 4-5.

The current Oly qualifying standings (ignoring South Korea, which qualifies as host -- top seven clinch a spot):

1. Switzerland - they'll make it.
2. Japan - didn't qualify for Worlds this year. If the USA finishes sixth or higher, the USA passes them. At seventh, it's a tie.
3. Russia - they'll make it.
4. Canada - no problem.
5. GB/Scotland - safe barring a really weird tiebreaker.

6. USA
7. Denmark - won't make it; set to finish 11th or 12th this year.
*8. Sweden - likely to pass the USA
*9. Germany - ties USA if they finish 4 places higher. Possible.
10. Finland - didn't qualify
11. Italy - would need a ton of help
12. Czech Republic - also would need a ton of help

So the Germany loss could be quite costly. But if the USA can win its next two and finish in the top six, they'll pass Japan, and there wouldn't be any way Italy or the Czech Republic could pass them, so they'll be safe.

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guido
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U.S. Curling sure has gone downhill in the past 8 or so years. Wonder what the reason is??? ..... Might be because that don't send their national champion????
I may be wrong , but Roth seems like the spoiled rich kid.

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AlanMacNeill
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US *Women's* curling is currently suffering from a talent dearth, the cause of which is quite debatable (and has been debated, tons...).

*Men's* curling, on the other hand, is likely stronger than it's been in the Olympic era. Our team going to World's this year is the defending Bronze medalist.

The two losses today (yesterday? I can never get that time line stuff right) are gonna hurt the women..an Olympic berth is not guaranteed yet....winning out would help, a lot.

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misty1
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I like the us women's chances at winning out tomorrow. They have beaten paetz twice this season and if my memory serves me well they have a good record against Kim. So 6-5 is very possible and that should get them to the Olympics.

As for making the playoffs. Well they need Russia to lose twice . Russia play China and Sweden so that is possible. Also need Scotland to lose once. Scotland play Germany and Czech republic. Neither one of those is very likely but with as inconsistent as Scotland has been this week you never know

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