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04-03-16 10:51PM
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Whats the story with the Russians going home???


Apparently, according to some quotes from the coach, Stukalsky's team performance wasn't good enough lately, so they decided to send their 2nd national team.

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i am not happy at all for koe. he got off a number of times in the semi against northern ontario. they were out curled in that match but brad jacobs let them off the hook multiple times when he had opportunities for 2. not only that but to win in the way they did..off a measure of a biter was just really lucky. Im not a fan of that team in general anyway. they seem like good guys off the ice but the way that kennedy and hebert in particular act on the ice just disgusts me. the way hebert pouts every time things arent going well . you will see him literally launch rocks out of the house when an end doesnt go his way. will not be cheering for them this year and nor will i ever.


..well said, could not agree more.

..they were practically giddy today when talking about the opposition's brooms being worn down with play yet to come.

..i haven't seen Brewster in action, happy to see him back, and will definitely be cheering for Scotland to take down Team Obnoxious.

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Shooting skills aren't as important as brush management. It's all about knowing when to use the fresh brushes to curve rocks into impossible positions. It's also crucial to not use up your sharp brushes before your opponents.
Curling has become a very different game. It's a shame.



yeah, i am not a fan of this new brushing development in any way. it used to be that you had to actually throw a rock well to make a shot. now even if you dont some brushing can correct that throw for you and make the shot or at least get it a lot closer than it should be. thats not a development that i think is a good thing, it takes skill out of the equation.

curling isnt headed in a direction im to happy about following in a number of ways to be honest

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Scotland is questionable. In past years, their curling federation put together a team to go to worlds.



no but scotland does send their national team. whoever wins does usually go

as far as not sending the national championship winner i dont believe russia does either

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they will have to change percentage from the thrower to the sweepers, not the percentages mean a thing. You could be 95%,miss the wrong shot and loose the game. So know who cares if you got 95%.



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I will NEVER understand countries that don't send their champion.


And why bother to run a national championship then? Save the $$ and just send who you want.

Shuster had that game yesterday but choked and handed Koe yet another lucky win.

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And why bother to run a national championship then? Save the $$ and just send who you want.

Shuster had that game yesterday but choked and handed Koe yet another lucky win.



Not a lucky win, a win is a win. Shuster had his shot to win, missed and Koe won, that is how it works. The last half of the game Canada had it together. Sure you can say it was handed to Koe, but it wasn't. Koe made a good shot, Shuster had a shot to win and missed - Koe wins.

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another blankfest going on between canada and scotland. they have blanked 3 end already, im betting koe will try and blank 9. that would be 50% of the game blanked. thats just stupid.

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Nobody is accusing Koe of slow play today. Of course when you're playing Scotland that tends to be what happens

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another blankfest going on between canada and scotland. they have blanked 3 end already, im betting koe will try and blank 9. that would be 50% of the game blanked. thats just stupid.

Why is it stupid? Stupid for the fans? Stupid for team? The rules allow it.

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Let them blank as long as they want....lots of great shots in between for the blanks....as long as Canada wins, and they do. Nice close game with good percentages for both teams.

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another blankfest going on between canada and scotland. they have blanked 3 end already, im betting koe will try and blank 9. that would be 50% of the game blanked. thats just stupid.


It always takes 2 to tangle and with Canada having hammer there is no urgency to mix it up. Scotland has for decades played an open style of gane plan.

Very well played game and the result in 9 is exactly why Brewster was hesitant to get aggressive.

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Could have had a nap during 9th end.

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I think Canada creates the greatest depth in curling talent in the world when it comes to the finesse and touch game. I also believe they are the greatest hypocrites, being the first and loudest complainers in the media about ice conditions after purposely deep tilling the sheet to joy stick rocks. Canadian elite curlers are only going to bring the less talented teams up and themselves down by trashing the ice, and isn't scratching ice illegal in the first place?

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And why bother to run a national championship then? Save the $$ and just send who you want.

Shuster had that game yesterday but choked and handed Koe yet another lucky win.



This is what continues to be lost in the sending the national champion to worlds thing. Regardless of what comes next, it should be an honor to win the National Championship in anything that you do. Many non-curling sporting events don't have a next step, they just end at their nationals. If you cant be happy just winning nationals, then don't enter nationals at all.

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TSN

Didn't Cheryl or Cathy make the trip?

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They're predicting lots of rain in Switzerland-has anybody told Vic or Russ what it's like in Toronto?

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USA
Germany
Norway
Sweden

Any others?



The Swiss also do not send their National Champ to worlds if they don't have enough points (no exception like in the US) and I think that they seem to be doing pretty well for themselves.

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Rumour has it that the Japanese women's team was seen in the departure lounge at Narita International Airport...

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If I recall correctly, the US revamped their system a bit this year to put more emphasis on finish at Nationals. Even with Shuster's great season (by US standards...spare me the snippy comparisons, please) they still had to hit the podium to go. It's not like they were anointed in August or something, they earned their berths via the system that ALL the teams were under.

Look, I agree with the sentiment that the national champ should rep their country, no doubt about it. That being said, it isn't always practical when your country lacks serious depth. Even if the "worst" team wins the Scotties or Brier, chances are they'll finish middle of the pack at worst. It's not the same in the US...or Norway, or Sweden for that matter. There are Olympic Qualification points on the line, and frankly the US is under enough scrutiny by the USOC as it is without putting themselves in an even worse position. Miss 2018, so long funding.

It's all a mental exercise anyway. Shuster could win out or lose every remaining game. Koe could too. Who knows? Clark might have brought home gold or they might have gone 0-11. It is all pure speculation. The fact of the matter is that the US sent their consistently best team to Basel...the team who (as I said) earned their berth.

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Why is it stupid? Stupid for the fans? Stupid for team? The rules allow it.



stupid was the wrong word to use. annoying instead

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seeing switzerland so far i might have to re-think my prediction of having them make final 4. they just dont look that good, definitely not like a team able to make it to the playoffs. 3 losses already with canada, norway and the united states to come. as it is now i cant see them doing any better than 1-2 against them and 0-3 wouldnt surprise me. aside from the 1 euro michel has really not impressed. with this line up now i think the middle 2 players are the problem. the pfister brothers arent strong enough, i dont think to help sven stand up to the top teams

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It always takes 2 to tangle and with Canada having hammer there is no urgency to mix it up. Scotland has for decades played an open style of gane plan.

Very well played game and the result in 9 is exactly why Brewster was hesitant to get aggressive.



thats true. its just frustrating to watch..for me.i dont enjoy seeing games where end, after end is blanked. and i know im not the only one

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If I recall correctly, the US revamped their system a bit this year to put more emphasis on finish at Nationals.


Not directly (it's been "Highest OOM after nationals that made the podium" for the last couple of years)...but because of the way Shuster...well...bullied...things last year, a lot more US teams, even those without funding, hit more ranked events, so the Strength of Field multipler for Nationals was a lot higher organically.

Counterbalancing that, however, was the fact that Shuster had basically lapped the field during November-January, so Nationals was something of a non-event. Unless he missed the podium altogether (and that wasnt' gonna happen), he was in.

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I know that TSN has commitments to European soccer (go Barcelona!) and the Masters, but what's the deal with tomorrow's game against Germany (starting at 3:00 AM)? Will it be on the net or should I just leave the alarm clock "as is" and assume the best?

Same for Korea on Wednesday...ironically they are showing the Norwegian game at 3:00 AM on Thursday.

I know that some folks will think that this is just a Canadian trying to be a big-shot, but when the Worlds are held in Europe, is it really a wise idea to have Canada play in the morning draw?

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