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| 11-02-17 10:05AM |
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Observer
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National Teams
The lists of teams that will be playing in The National in Sault Ste. Marie from Nov. 14-19 came out earlier this week.
http://www.thegrandslamofcurling.co...boost-national/
In case anyone is wondering why so many ranked international teams have turned this one down, I've cross-checked schedules and I see that this clashes with the European Curling Championships which get underway Nov. 18. So that's where they'll be.
(Last year The National was later and avoided the clash. )
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| 11-02-17 10:37AM |
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Burned_Broom
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Re: National Teams
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Originally posted by Observer
The lists of teams that will be playing in The National in Sault Ste. Marie from Nov. 14-19 came out earlier this week.
http://www.thegrandslamofcurling.co...boost-national/
In case anyone is wondering why so many ranked international teams have turned this one down, I've cross-checked schedules and I see that this clashes with the European Curling Championships which get underway Nov. 18. So that's where they'll be.
(Last year The National was later and avoided the clash. )
The U.S. Olympic Trials are also this week so if Shuster, Roth, or Sinclair we're eligible for this event, that is why they won't be going.
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| 11-02-17 11:25AM |
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Observer
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Re: Re: National Teams
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Originally posted by Burned_Broom
The U.S. Olympic Trials are also this week so if Shuster, Roth, or Sinclair we're eligible for this event, that is why they won't be going.
Thanks, Burned Broom. I meant to mention that and forgot to.
The cutoff was the rankings as of Week 9. Sinclair was no. 14 then, so would've got straight in.
Shuster was 18, McCormick 17, and Roth 21. So they ranked outside the top 14, however they were ranked higher than some of the teams that have got in thanks to all the European teams that will be absent.
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| 11-02-17 12:25PM |
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AlanMacNeill
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I *HATE* the idea of putting a "major" (ie "Grand Slam") event opposite European Championships and US Trials.
That will penalize European and (to a lesser extent) US Teams in OOM standings, which just perpetuates the "If you aren't Canadian, you're crap" myth of that system.
As much as it pains me to say it, FIFA has it right on one thing...they have declared windows in the year where International Competition occurs, and the rest of the Soccer world shuts up and lets those games have the focus.
The Tour should coordinate such that European and Asian Championships, US Nationals and the Briar/Scotties have open weeks where there isn't a Tour event.
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| 11-02-17 02:41PM |
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misty1
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quote:
Originally posted by AlanMacNeill
I *HATE* the idea of putting a "major" (ie "Grand Slam") event opposite European Championships and US Trials.
That will penalize European and (to a lesser extent) US Teams in OOM standings, which just perpetuates the "If you aren't Canadian, you're crap" myth of that system.
As much as it pains me to say it, FIFA has it right on one thing...they have declared windows in the year where International Competition occurs, and the rest of the
Soccer world shuts up and lets those games have the focus.
The Tour should coordinate such that European and Asian Championships, US Nationals and the Briar/Scotties have open weeks where there isn't a Tour event.
i see what you're saying but at the same time the beauty of this is that tere are some teams that will now get to compete here that wouldnt be able to because of the crappy ranking system in place.
mouat, liu and kim are having a fantastic season but because of the ranking system in place were not allowed to. some teams that have gotten in , in my opinion shouldnt be there. im thinking of englot, epping, sidorova, flaxey, morris, laycock, smith yes these are all good teams but have had lousy seasons and that should have some impact but it doesnt . im glad teams like mouat , kim and rocque are getting a chance to play here
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| 11-02-17 02:51PM |
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Observer
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Last season, there was no clash like this as they put The National in the first week of December where it was clear of the international events. That wouldn't work this time as that's when the Canadian Olympic Trials are. If it wasn't for the Olympics and the events leading to it, these clashes wouldn't be happening.
As for the OOM system penalizing non-Canadian teams, are you sure given the state of the current rankings that it's as much as all that? The number of points available is partly determined by a multiplication factor that rises or falls depending on the strength of the field. At present, on both the men's and women's sides, 12 of the Top 20 teams are Canadian and 8 are not. The absence of a number of highly ranked teams will therefore depress the multiplier for the National versus what it was for the Masters or the Tier I of the Tour Challenge. (It's not quite all 8 non-Canadians not turning up, as China's still coming, and for another example, Alina Paetz is too because Silvana Tirinzoni has the Swiss spot at the Euros.)
It looks like there's an additional multiplier for the Euros too, set at 35%, whereas the Slams only get 10%, so the European teams may in fact be playing for just as many points in the end as the teams at the Slam.
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| 11-03-17 09:45PM |
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nelski
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Dunstone
I see where Matt Dunstone (recently 2nd for SLaycock Team) is skipping a team in the MCT Fort Gary Industries 'Spiel - for points. Wondering if he is just "home for the weekend". Does that seem strange? Like... having two curling projects on the go in the same discipline (ie. Men's). I know musicians mix it up, but didn't know curlers did this. I doubt there is trouble in paradise and Flasch has landed on his feet, with pals, and is heading to the PreTrials. Just wondering if this is normal.
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| 11-04-17 02:01PM |
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nelski
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Dunstone? Shrugs
Nobody to post scores at Rossmere? Wondering if Dunstone won his A qualifier game against Drews. Also - who is curling with Dunstone. Curious minds would like to be kept in the loop. (FYI - it is not updated on the #WordCurl site either.)
No Wait! Team Laycock is curling in Penticton. Hmmm.. Will the real Matt Dunstone please stand up.
UPDATE - name changed from Matt to Dean. Whew. btw - Dean won a qualifying spot out of A-Event. at FtGarry Industries Classic. No idea who is curling with him
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| 11-05-17 04:49PM |
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nelski
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Looks like there will be a large TB pool in Penticton at the Ashley Home Store Curling Classic. 6 through with 4 of 5 wins and 6 (or 7) with 3-2. I never know how they determine who gets into the TBs.. big scramble for the two spots. No real surprises though.
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