Forums Menu

User: 
Pass:  

Curling Scores

M: Canadian Mixed Doubles Curling Championship
Fredericton, NB
Teams | Scores | Standings | Playoffs
Draw: 6 -- Mon, Mar 18 -- 7:00pm AT
Gagn/Mori Final
Rees/Ches (EE)
Sand/Crai Final
Gamb/Kalt (8)
Arms/Grif Final
Pete/Gall (7) Watch Live Curling!
Zhen/Piet Final
Gion/Desj (7)
Wasy/Koni Final
Jone/Lain (EE)
Wise/Smit 12  Final
Weag/Eppi (6)
Lott/Lott 12  Final
Bouc/Char (7)
Krev/Math Final
Whit/Whit (6)
M: Aberdeen International Curling Championship
Aberdeen, SCO
Teams | Scores | Standings | Playoffs
Draw: CF -- Sun, Mar 17 -- 2:45pm GMT
Mouat Final
Shuster (7)
W: Biktrix Saskatchewan Senior Women's Curling Championship
Martensville, SK
Teams | Scores | Standings | Playoffs
Draw: CF -- Sun, Mar 17 -- 3:00pm MT
Foster Final
Streifel (8) Watch Live Curling!
W: CCAA / Curling Canada College Championships
Sudbury, ON
Teams | Scores | Standings | Playoffs
Draw: CF -- Sat, Mar 16 -- 2:30pm AT
Southern Alberta IoT Final
Concordia U (10)
UofA - Augustana Final
Humber College (10)
D: WCT Slovakia Mixed Doubles Cup II
Bratislava, SVK
Teams | Scores | Standings | Playoffs
Draw: CF -- Sun, Mar 17 -- 12:00pm CET
Han/Zou Final
Paul/Paul (7)
Cihl/Mace Final
Yang/Tian 10  (6)
: NWTCA Mixed
Yellowknife, NT
Teams | Scores | Standings | Playoffs
Draw: 4 -- Sun, Mar 17 -- 10:00am MT
Delorey Final
Koe (5)
Full Scoreboard  |  Play Fantasy Pick'em!  
Disclaimer: CurlingZone does not represent or endorse the accuracy or reliability of any Content posted on any Forums area and you acknowledge that any reliance upon such Content shall be at your sole risk. Any Content placed on any Forums area by users and anonymous posters are the views of the user posting the statement, and do not represent the views of CurlingZone or our partners, advertisers or sponsors. By posting anonymously, you are allowing your IP address to be displayed for identification purposes. CurlingZone reserves the right to remove any post at its discretion without warning or explanation.
  Last Thread   Next Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread   Post A Reply
11-15-17 10:55AM
AlanMacNeill is offline Click Here to See the Profile for AlanMacNeill Click here to Send AlanMacNeill a Private Message Find more posts by AlanMacNeill Add AlanMacNeill to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
AlanMacNeill
Super Rockchucker

 

Registered: Sep 2011
Location:
Posts: 1064

Somebody's gotta say it

Guess Team Birr really does belong there, huh?

Guaranteed no worse than 3rd, and possibly in the finals as it stands currently...

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

11-15-17 11:09AM
bucksdave is offline Click Here to See the Profile for bucksdave Click here to Send bucksdave a Private Message Visit bucksdave's homepage! Find more posts by bucksdave Add bucksdave to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
bucksdave
Harvey Hacksmasher

 

Registered: Sep 2015
Location:
Posts: 19

They certainly do. It's been fun cheering them on!

__________________
Dave

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

11-15-17 11:15AM
biterbar is offline Click Here to See the Profile for biterbar Click here to Send biterbar a Private Message Find more posts by biterbar Add biterbar to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
biterbar
Drawmaster

 

Registered: Mar 2009
Location:
Posts: 695

It's obvious this was what they were fighting against. If they win this the HP's record against self formed teams, Shuster in all years included, is pathetic.

Just think what might have been with Doctor Double still on the team.

The women's on the other hand seems to be an overwhelming success. But they have fewer and younger people to choose from.

__________________
"He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire"-Winston Churchill

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

11-15-17 03:03PM
RockDoc is offline Click Here to See the Profile for RockDoc Click here to Send RockDoc a Private Message Find more posts by RockDoc Add RockDoc to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
RockDoc
Swing Artist

 

Registered: Apr 2005
Location:
Posts: 399

Re: Somebody's gotta say it

quote:
Originally posted by AlanMacNeill
Guess Team Birr really does belong there, huh?

Guaranteed no worse than 3rd, and possibly in the finals as it stands currently...



Can't disagree. I think the USCA appeals committee was pretty clear that the discretionary picks abused objectivity by discarding Birr.

What is most troubling to me is that the way we are developing our competitive curlers appears to be steeped in paranoia about failure, where we seem to be going to great lengths to "protect" selected teams from competition. If we are doing things right, the "select" teams should normally dominate the field. I would have loved to see a larger trials event, with maybe 6-8 teams (if available) competing. So what if some of the developmental teams invited become "cupcakes"? These teams and players would get extraordinary experience for the future, while the top teams (should) duke it out for the big prize. I just think we are shortening our bench when we artificially and arbitrarily limit competition. The Canadians are going to have a bucket-load of teams in the Roar of the RIngs, and the Road to the Roar had 14 pretty good teams, too, it not in the same tier as the already-qualified. The cream will rise to the top. Don't skim off the fat too early--let'em compete and get experience!

In the current team-limited format, we are playing in one case a triple round robin to eliminate ONE team from contention. It is possible for the women to have played each other 6(!) times to determine a champion. On the mens side the winners might play 5 times. Yowza. Only a few teams are getting experience, and some of these teams likely won't be competitive for the next Olympic cycle.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

11-15-17 08:11PM
IMWright is offline Click Here to See the Profile for IMWright Click here to Send IMWright a Private Message Find more posts by IMWright Add IMWright to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
IMWright
Swing Artist

 

Registered: Dec 2014
Location:
Posts: 206

Re: Re: Somebody's gotta say it

quote:
Originally posted by RockDoc


Can't disagree. I think the USCA appeals committee was pretty clear that the discretionary picks abused objectivity by discarding Birr.

What is most troubling to me is that the way we are developing our competitive curlers appears to be steeped in paranoia about failure, where we seem to be going to great lengths to "protect" selected teams from competition. If we are doing things right, the "select" teams should normally dominate the field. I would have loved to see a larger trials event, with maybe 6-8 teams (if available) competing. So what if some of the developmental teams invited become "cupcakes"? These teams and players would get extraordinary experience for the future, while the top teams (should) duke it out for the big prize. I just think we are shortening our bench when we artificially and arbitrarily limit competition. The Canadians are going to have a bucket-load of teams in the Roar of the RIngs, and the Road to the Roar had 14 pretty good teams, too, it not in the same tier as the already-qualified. The cream will rise to the top. Don't skim off the fat too early--let'em compete and get experience!

In the current team-limited format, we are playing in one case a triple round robin to eliminate ONE team from contention. It is possible for the women to have played each other 6(!) times to determine a champion. On the mens side the winners might play 5 times. Yowza. Only a few teams are getting experience, and some of these teams likely won't be competitive for the next Olympic cycle.



I think the women's side appears as a success because the system pushed out other women's teams (Brown, Lank, etc).

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

11-16-17 08:55AM
biterbar is offline Click Here to See the Profile for biterbar Click here to Send biterbar a Private Message Find more posts by biterbar Add biterbar to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
biterbar
Drawmaster

 

Registered: Mar 2009
Location:
Posts: 695

Birr is now sitting one tiebreaker away from making the final two playoff. The HP leaders worst fear is now 3 losses away from reality.

While Shuster has always been the odds on favorite, Birr was one of the top teams after last years trials and has proven it again even after they stripped their vice away from them. The fact they had to go to a lawyer to even get here is a black mark on the qualification process.

I hope a lesson is learned and that wiser decisions are made by the USCA in the future.

America loves an underdog and right now many curlers in the USA have a new team to root for.

__________________
"He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire"-Winston Churchill

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

11-16-17 11:42AM
AlanMacNeill is offline Click Here to See the Profile for AlanMacNeill Click here to Send AlanMacNeill a Private Message Find more posts by AlanMacNeill Add AlanMacNeill to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
AlanMacNeill
Super Rockchucker

 

Registered: Sep 2011
Location:
Posts: 1064

Which brings me to a question...

*IF* Birr wins 3 of their next four games, and becomes Team USA...

Do they reunite them with their relocated Vice?

Would Birr want him?

Would the USCA/USOC want him on the team?

Would he want to return?

Would he rejoin the main 4, or be the 5th, or would Clawson get a “Hey, thanks...now go sit on the bench”?

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

11-16-17 01:10PM
TNH is offline Click Here to See the Profile for TNH Click here to Send TNH a Private Message Find more posts by TNH Add TNH to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
TNH
Hitting Paint

 

Registered: May 2011
Location:
Posts: 161

Enjoying the streams

Thought I'd try something positive. I have really been enjoying the NBCSport streams and how TESN handles the commentary. I'm hoping that NBC considers Jess or Dean for the Olympics as they have both added a lot to the webcasts! It's a hard job to do well - their experiences are showing through.

I do agree with a previous poster that there seems to be an irrational fear of an "unworthy" team winning so instead of trials that embrace the country we get trials that embrace the HPP. Wouldn't it have been better to be exposed to new curlers instead of three women's teams playing for half a week to eliminate one? It's the promise of the Cinderella's that make the early rounds exciting.

Still, glad to be able to see Team Birr give a good accounting of themselves.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

11-16-17 01:53PM
AteEnder is offline Click Here to See the Profile for AteEnder Find more posts by AteEnder Add AteEnder to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
AteEnder
Harvey Hacksmasher

 

Registered: Dec 2006
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 14

Speaking personally I'd like to thank all the teams that participated this week in the event and the folks who made it possible for us to watch via the best streaming only coverage we have ever had for a US event.

For those teams not moving on to the weekend and for the teams that will ultimately not prevail in the best of 3, while you may not have achieved your full goal you represented your sport extremely well and provided many moments of curling excitement for those of us in the audience. For that I thank you, respect your dedication, and admire your skill.

__________________
Proud Member of SPCC

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

11-16-17 02:30PM
RockDoc is offline Click Here to See the Profile for RockDoc Click here to Send RockDoc a Private Message Find more posts by RockDoc Add RockDoc to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
RockDoc
Swing Artist

 

Registered: Apr 2005
Location:
Posts: 399

Re: Enjoying the streams

quote:
Originally posted by TNH
Thought I'd try something positive. I have really been enjoying the NBCSport streams and how TESN handles the commentary. I'm hoping that NBC considers Jess or Dean for the Olympics as they have both added a lot to the webcasts! It's a hard job to do well - their experiences are showing through.


Absolutely! Joe Calabrese and his crew did an outstanding job of web-streaming this event. I hope the live TV coverage is as professional and knowledgable.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

11-16-17 03:04PM
biterbar is offline Click Here to See the Profile for biterbar Click here to Send biterbar a Private Message Find more posts by biterbar Add biterbar to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
biterbar
Drawmaster

 

Registered: Mar 2009
Location:
Posts: 695

Great broadcast, love watching it on the Smart TV from my Lazy boy.

Congratulations to Birr on a great run. They must be thinking "What if" right now. Way to stick to your guns and push for what was always the right decision!

I have to give special Kudos to John Benton stepping into vice and doing a great job. Too bad The USCA made it so difficult for this former Olympian (and Birr as the winner of one of the last two world medals), to compete.

On another positive note, I did give praise earlier to the rise of the Women's program. We have three strong teams who have been competing at high levels internationally as well. this core group will produce big things I predict.

__________________
"He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire"-Winston Churchill

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

11-16-17 06:18PM
courtneyshaw is offline Click Here to See the Profile for courtneyshaw Click here to Send courtneyshaw a Private Message Find more posts by courtneyshaw Add courtneyshaw to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
courtneyshaw
Harvey Hacksmasher

 

Registered: Aug 2012
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 41

Yes they did. Never a doubt in my mind. I have been delighted to see them do well, just wish the second half of that tiebreak played out a bit differently... as I'm sure they do.

I am also happy to see the women playing so well. The level of play has is stronger than I have ever seen and that is awesome. It's clear that the HP model has succeeded in creating 3 good women's teams in this country. I just wonder what happens after this Olympic cycle because there has been no improvement in the depth of field. Alienating every woman curler over the age of 30 might not have been the best tactic, but I guess time will tell.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

11-16-17 09:03PM
Observer is offline Click Here to See the Profile for Observer Find more posts by Observer Add Observer to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Observer
Swing Artist

 

Registered: Apr 2016
Location: River Falls, WI, USA
Posts: 445

Sinclair was 2nd shot!

Oh my.
Does anyone else who watched the 10th end of Sinclair v. Roth Game 1 think, as I do, that Sinclair was actually lying 2 before they threw that hammer shot that turned it into 1? (I even hit pause and went and measured it on my big screen TV.)

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

11-17-17 01:59AM
Alice is offline Click Here to See the Profile for Alice Click here to Send Alice a Private Message Find more posts by Alice Add Alice to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Alice
Swing Artist

 

Registered: Feb 2012
Location:
Posts: 324

In the midst of this Groundhog Day of the same teams playing over and over again, looked up all 1998-2014 Olympic champion skips's birthdays and the skips at the USA Trials for their ages during 2018 Olympics.

Average Olympic champion skip age: 39
High: Russ Howard 50
Low: Brad Jacobs 28
High: Anette Norberg 43
Low: Sandra Schmirler 34

Average age USA 2017 Trials final four skips: 32.5
= almost 2 Olympic cycles short of experience compared to average Olympic champions
- US men aged 35 & 41
- US women aged 29 & 26

Average age of all competing USA 2017 Trials skips:
Women 26
Men 41.4

Last edited by Alice on 11-17-17 at 02:07AM

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

11-17-17 10:02AM
biterbar is offline Click Here to See the Profile for biterbar Click here to Send biterbar a Private Message Find more posts by biterbar Add biterbar to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
biterbar
Drawmaster

 

Registered: Mar 2009
Location:
Posts: 695

Re: Sinclair was 2nd shot!

quote:
Originally posted by Observer
Oh my.
Does anyone else who watched the 10th end of Sinclair v. Roth Game 1 think, as I do, that Sinclair was actually lying 2 before they threw that hammer shot that turned it into 1? (I even hit pause and went and measured it on my big screen TV.)



When I first watched it, no I didn't think she was shot. But I just did the replay and paused it to measure and I am 90% sure she was sitting two and would have won.

__________________
"He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire"-Winston Churchill

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

11-17-17 12:57PM
Observer is offline Click Here to See the Profile for Observer Find more posts by Observer Add Observer to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Observer
Swing Artist

 

Registered: Apr 2016
Location: River Falls, WI, USA
Posts: 445

I've changed my mind now. I did a screen grab and blew it up and measured the distances with a caliper, and I got an exact tie. Given that, I think they had to proceed just as they did and try to get that yellow out of there.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

All times are GMT. The time now is . Post New Thread   Post A Reply
  Last Thread   Next Thread
Show Printable Version | Email this Page | Subscribe to thisThread

Forum Jump:
Rate This Thread:

Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is OFF
vB code is ON
Smilies are ON
[IMG] code is ON
 

Curling Scores

M: Canadian Mixed Doubles Curling Championship
Fredericton, NB
Teams | Scores | Standings | Playoffs
Draw: 6 -- Mon, Mar 18 -- 7:00pm AT
Gagn/Mori Final
Rees/Ches (EE)
Sand/Crai Final
Gamb/Kalt (8)
Arms/Grif Final
Pete/Gall (7) Watch Live Curling!
Zhen/Piet Final
Gion/Desj (7)
Wasy/Koni Final
Jone/Lain (EE)
Wise/Smit 12  Final
Weag/Eppi (6)
Lott/Lott 12  Final
Bouc/Char (7)
Krev/Math Final
Whit/Whit (6)
M: Aberdeen International Curling Championship
Aberdeen, SCO
Teams | Scores | Standings | Playoffs
Draw: CF -- Sun, Mar 17 -- 2:45pm GMT
Mouat Final
Shuster (7)
D: WCT Slovakia Mixed Doubles Cup II
Bratislava, SVK
Teams | Scores | Standings | Playoffs
Draw: CF -- Sun, Mar 17 -- 12:00pm CET
Han/Zou Final
Paul/Paul (7)
Cihl/Mace Final
Yang/Tian 10  (6)
: NWTCA Mixed
Yellowknife, NT
Teams | Scores | Standings | Playoffs
Draw: 4 -- Sun, Mar 17 -- 10:00am MT
Delorey Final
Koe (5)
Full Scoreboard  |  Play Fantasy Pick'em!  

Recent News

Recent
Canadian mixed doubles championship starts in Fredericton on Sunday

Canadian mixed doubles championship starts in Fredericton on Sunday

Marlee Powers and Luke Saunders of Halifax, Nova Scotia won 6-5 over Papley/van Amsterdam in the opening draw streamed on Curling Canada's Plus platform.

Curling Photos

Recent

Curling Blogs

Facebook Feed

Twitter Feed

To top ↑