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What happened to "Eye on the Hog?"

I have watched several curling events this year and I don't think I've seen the "eye on the hog" being used at any event that I have watched (all the GSOC for instance). The rocks don't have the LEDs on top. What's up with that? I guess I probably missed some announcement about it.

For many years now the "eye on the hog" was the next best thing since sliced bread because you didn't need officials to call the hog line. Apparently, it has been decided now that you don't need either the eye or the officials.

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I don't believe they've ever had the eye on the hog for the slams. Just CCA and WCF events. You should see it again in the next couple weeks.

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In GSOC and all WCevents, the games are self-officiated by the players. If someone is violating the hog line, it is up to the opposing team to call them on it. They can stand at the hogline, if necessary, to be the "eye" on the line. That usually does the trick. In the case of a blatant violation, I assume the players would have to resolve it among themselves, and according to the rule book. <<"Hey! You were a foot across the line!!." "Okay, pull my rock." "No, it's okay this time, but I'll pull the next one - you good with that?" "Yeah... sorry".

Curling, like golf, is by-and-large, a self-officiates sport.

Even in Officiated play, (olympics, playdowns, nationals, etc) if an offical sees an infraction, but the non-offending team fails to (read: decides not to) to involve the officials, no action is taken. Officals are involved in measures, and when asked to mediate. That's about it.

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In GSOC and all WCevents, the games are self-officiated by the players. If someone is violating the hog line, it is up to the opposing team to call them on it. They can stand at the hogline, if necessary, to be the "eye" on the line. That usually does the trick. In the case of a blatant violation, I assume the players would have to resolve it among themselves, and according to the rule book. <<"Hey! You were a foot across the line!!." "Okay, pull my rock." "No, it's okay this time, but I'll pull the next one - you good with that?" "Yeah... sorry".

Curling, like golf, is by-and-large, a self-officiates sport.

Even in Officiated play, (olympics, playdowns, nationals, etc) if an offical sees an infraction, but the non-offending team fails to (read: decides not to) to involve the officials, no action is taken. Officals are involved in measures, and when asked to mediate. That's about it.



I think you may want to ask Randy Ferbey about the time their team's rocks were pulled at a Worlds in Switzerland by a line official. I remember that this official stepped in without being asked.

BTW at Mixed, Curling Canada had about 6 officials - one for each sheet of ice.

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I think you may want to ask Randy Ferbey about the time their team's rocks were pulled at a Worlds in Switzerland by a line official. I remember that this official stepped in without being asked.BTW at Mixed, Curling Canada had about 6 officials - one for each sheet of ice.


Yes that sounds right. One official per sheet. But they have to be beckoned by the non-offending team. In the old days, <<Ferbey is old - and may have affected the change>> there were officials gazing at the hog lines for infractions. But now that has ended. I in officiated play, now, the non-offending team must summon the official from their sheet with a complaint and then an official can be assigned to monitor that hog line. By then, the offender is well aware. It is deterrent enough.

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Thanks all, I hadn't noticed that the GSOC events were "eyeless" before. It's kind of hard to see those little LEDs on TV unless they take one of those artsy shots where they zoom in on a rock.

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