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Pacific Curling Championships 2014
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Curling fans around the world will be able to follow live coverage of this event for the first time on the World Curling Federation's YouTube Channel - www.youtube.com/WorldCurlingTV - and here on the event website homepage.
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| 11-09-14 09:41AM |
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anyone else think that there's a good posibility that the chinese women miss worlds this year?
i could see japan and korea finishing above them
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| 11-10-14 01:22AM |
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peteski
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anyone else think that there's a good posibility that the chinese women miss worlds this year?
i could see japan and korea finishing above them
One interesting factor is that Japan is hosting the worlds this year, so it really comes down to a battle between Korea and China for the other spot. With that in mind, I would agree that there is a very decent chance that the Chinese women miss the worlds, particularly with Bingyu Wang nowhere in sight.
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| 11-12-14 11:11PM |
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men's playoff round
Big win by Kim SooHyuk of Korea over China to finish second in the round robin... How does the playoff round go? Page-like?
1vs2 - loser plays winner 3-4? Just wondering. Ko Goreya Ko
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| 11-12-14 11:14PM |
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Re: men's playoff round
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Big win by Kim SooHyuk of Korea over China to finish second in the round robin... How does the playoff round go? Page-like?
1vs2 - loser plays winner 3-4? Just wondering. Ko Goreya Ko
No page system....
Japan will play the winner of the TB between AUS/NZL in one Best of 3 semi while Korea plays China in the other Best of 3 semi. Japan will take a one game lead in the best of 3 semi against either AUS or NZL by virtue of victories over both of them in the RR, and Korea takes a one game lead over China by virtue of their RR victory.
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| 11-13-14 08:08AM |
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Where is Bingyu Wang at?
her and the entire team retired after socchi
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| 11-13-14 10:15AM |
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Re: Re: men's playoff round
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No page system.... Korea takes a one game lead over China by virtue of their RR victory.
So with this ee win over china does korea win the championsip and the berth to worlds? <<in womens >>.
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| 11-13-14 11:19AM |
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Re: Re: Re: men's playoff round
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So with this ee win over china does korea win the championsip and the berth to worlds? <<in womens >>.
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No, they play New Zealand, who won the tiebreaker, in the semifinals. Both the men's and women's have semis where 1 plays 4 and 2 plays 3. However, these semis are best 2 of 3 in the men's and best 3 of 5 in the women's, but the round robin games between the teams count. I assume it's different for the women because they play a double round robin and they wouldn't want anyone to be swept out before playing a playoff game.
Therefore, on the women's side Korea already has a two games to none lead over New Zealand, meanwhile China and Japan split their games so they are now playing effectively a best 2 of 3. On the men's side Japan has a one game lead on Australia and Korea has a one game lead on China.
Oddly, the finals are just one game. It's a complicated system, but it usually works well because getting to the finals is the real prize as this usually qualifies you for Worlds. However, the women's side is complicated this year by the fact that Japan is already qualified for Worlds as the host nation. If China gets by Japan, the final would be a one game playoff for Worlds meaning Korea could possibly only lose that one game and miss out on the worlds. We'll see.
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| 11-13-14 02:25PM |
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you have to figure that if china misses worlds in both it'll be slightly concerning for that federation.
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| 11-13-14 11:05PM |
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If China gets by Japan, the final would be a one game playoff for Worlds meaning Korea could possibly only lose that one game and miss out on the worlds. We'll see.
This would defeat the whole purpose of the "best of five" system they are using.
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| 11-14-14 10:21PM |
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Re: Re: Re: Re: men's playoff round
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the final would be a one game playoff for Worlds meaning Korea could possibly only lose that one game and miss out on the worlds. We'll see.
Unfortunately for Korea, that's exactly what happened 
Missed a hit and roll for the win and lose that 1 game and fail to win the pacifics and qualify for Sapporo.
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| 11-14-14 11:08PM |
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First PACC Win For China Women
That did not involve Betty, Lu, Susan and Jenny...
Hey there guys,
Been a while since I posted here. Work and life got in the way. I can confirm that the 4 Golden Flowers have disbanded after Sochi...
What I can say is that the stork maybe visiting two of the 4 flowers this year while 1 is raising their 4 yr old daughter and the other one is going into jade jewelry sales as her post curling career.
When the WCF announced that Sapporo was hosting the 15 WWCCs I was EXTREMELY worried that China would not make the worlds, something that has not occurred since 2004...
That and the Olympics being in South Korea could have spelled China into defending their OQE/Last Chance Championship in 2017... Now with China in with Japan as host at least they will get some Olympic points that Korea could have taken from them leading up to qualifications.
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| 11-14-14 11:32PM |
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Unfortunately for Korea, that's exactly what happened
Missed a hit and roll for the win and lose that 1 game and fail to win the pacifics and qualify for Sapporo.
ugh. I am becoming afraid to express my fan-ness for any team. It seem to bring the worst. Ko Gorea Ko. booHoo
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| 11-21-14 05:25PM |
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I think that an argument could be made for 3 Asian teams in the worlds. If Brazil can challenge the Americans, then the Korean women should be able to challenge the worst team in Europe.
BTW-nice job on the microphones by Hans & Sander...although methinks that Hans should have been wearing the all-black...
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| 11-21-14 05:28PM |
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I think that an argument could be made for 3 Asian teams in the worlds. If Brazil can challenge the Americans, then the Korean women should be able to challenge the worst team in Europe.
BTW-nice job on the microphones by Hans & Sander...although methinks that Hans should have been wearing the all-black...
its so many quality countries challenging for world spots now that you could argue that the worlds field does need to be expanded again
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| 11-21-14 06:01PM |
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Misty, I wouldn't argue with you on that one...especially since the Men & Women play separate events.
If that were the case, I'd also split Asia from Pacific. The men & women from "Down Under" have a big enough handicap as it is.
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Misty, I wouldn't argue with you on that one...especially since the Men & Women play separate events.
If that were the case, I'd also split Asia from Pacific. The men & women from "Down Under" have a big enough handicap as it is.
i'd propose 14 teams. the 2 american births, 3 from asia/pacific and 9 from europe
of course that would add at least 2 days to the championship and thats probably not doable .
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| 11-22-14 01:44AM |
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I think that an argument could be made for 3 Asian teams in the worlds. If Brazil can challenge the Americans, then the Korean women should be able to challenge the worst team in Europe.
BTW-nice job on the microphones by Hans & Sander...although methinks that Hans should have been wearing the all-black...
I think there is no doubt now that the third best Pacific women's team is better than whoever will be the eighth best European team. It's closer for the men, but there's definitely an argument for it.
Changing the format is a bit tricky though. If you had some kind of challenge event, where and when would it be played. It's a big travel expense for one team no matter what. If you just went to seven Euro and three Pacific it may make it a bit too easy to qualify out of the Pacific area, I don't know.
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| 11-22-14 05:00PM |
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Just so there's no mistake-when I said that Hans should have been wearing the All-Black, that wasn't inferring any bias in his reporting-I meant that he should have been skipping!
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I think there is no doubt now that the third best Pacific women's team is better than whoever will be the eighth best European team. It's closer for the men, but there's definitely an argument for it.
Changing the format is a bit tricky though. If you had some kind of challenge event, where and when would it be played. It's a big travel expense for one team no matter what. If you just went to seven Euro and three Pacific it may make it a bit too easy to qualify out of the Pacific area, I don't know.
i dont think its fair to cut back the number of european teams. its arguable that 8 spots isnt enough anymore. and you could argue the 3rd asian team is stronger than the 8th european team but maybe not, it depends who the 8th place team is.They'd beat a latvia or a finland for sure but if its a czech republic or a germany im not so sure.
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| 11-22-14 07:33PM |
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It's possible to get six sheets onto one surface-the Brier used to do it.
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| 11-23-14 09:48AM |
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It's possible to get six sheets onto one surface-the Brier used to do it.
North American hockey arenas can't do six regulation sheets. And that's even if you try to squeeze them in without walkways for television.
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