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Deliverer
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And how long can Rachel keep pretending she lives in Ontario. Hubby and school in Alberta?
Courtney's dr husband likely not keen on moving to Ont,
Unless he's not satisfied with his practice in Alberta, can't see him moving, especially if Courtney has no guarantee she will even be curling with Homan after this year.
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Unless he's not satisfied with his practice in Alberta, can't see him moving, especially if Courtney has no guarantee she will even be curling with Homan after this year.
Wonder just how rigorous the enforcement process is - and when the players have to declare their home places?
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| 02-22-18 01:05AM |
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Wonder just how rigorous the enforcement process is - and when the players have to declare their home places?
We all know how 'rigorous the enforcement process is' - it is virtually non-existent. As long as the player lives somewhere on this planet, it's fine.
It's a shame that Curling Canada refuse to enforce their own rule... actually it's more of a farce.
It really only affects the Brier and Scotties directly (and the respective paths to them, that being the provincial playdowns) - but the fact is that teams are formed specifically to compete in the Brier and Scotties, so it's quite important in the actual forming of the team.
It's not like a team will play with 4 players from 4 different provinces for 7 months (when residency doesn't matter to play tournaments/bonspiels), and then form a team made up only of players from their own province for the month of the Scotties/Brier. No - it's a year-long commitment - at least - and so Curling Canada should enforce their own rule.
The tradition of pitting players from the provinces/territories against each other in the National Championships goes back many years. A team from Saskatchewan should be a team from Saskatchewan, period - no 'imports', and no overlooking their own residency rules by Curling Canada...
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| 02-22-18 02:48AM |
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there are ridiculous stories all week in the 100 sports of skaters moving from netherlands - one of 15 countries that will medl - to one of the 75 non athletic ccountries to qualify for the olympics - an even win gold -
this is happening in every sport - skating , luge , skiing etc etc
- in canada even coaches - an a lot of them !
as the olympics deteriorates the athletes are getting older -- surprisingly they media does articles on old farts going 5 times over a period of 20 years and still winning -- most of the 100 events are not sports and no one watches them between olympic years - so young people are wising up and are not watching or competing
or posting ... it seems
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Too many other teams and players got the jump on Carey by announcing early.
Thought Carey might stay together, possibly replacing nearly 50 yr old Cathy O.
Peterman becomes the top free agent on the current docket. Laine Peters prolly stays at home and either plays 5th for an established team or tries to get on with some veteran girls.
Carey will not be pursued as vigorously as Peterman - mainly due to Carey's 'unique' personality.
Wonder if she'll consider going back with her original Manitoba team including now-retired 3rd Kristy Jenion McDonald.?
One thing about Carey - no option is off the table. She might even consider offering her services to BC or Sask'n curling. Who knows?
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Peterman to join Homan, Courtney and one other now out of Alberta? Or Miskew s 4th?
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Hard to tell speculative from fact, but can you imagine Chelsea and Rachel teaming up? Uhmm no, but why can't we see it? Funny to imagine it but, why is that?
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Hard to tell speculative from fact, but can you imagine Chelsea and Rachel teaming up? Uhmm no, but why can't we see it? Funny to imagine it but, why is that?
Chelsea would at least add some personality to the team.
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| 02-24-18 09:34PM |
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CC Carey & Homan teaming up would be truly funny.
Those two. Those two!
Can't imagine the unique exchange of shocked & stunned expressions they'd routinely exchange!
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Too many other teams and players got the jump on Carey by announcing early.
Thought Carey might stay together, possibly replacing nearly 50 yr old Cathy O.
Peterman becomes the top free agent on the current docket. Laine Peters prolly stays at home and either plays 5th for an established team or tries to get on with some veteran girls.
Carey will not be pursued as vigorously as Peterman - mainly due to Carey's 'unique' personality.
Wonder if she'll consider going back with her original Manitoba team including now-retired 3rd Kristy Jenion McDonald.?
One thing about Carey - no option is off the table. She might even consider offering her services to BC or Sask'n curling. Who knows?
Read some of the older posts and not just your own... Peterman isn't a free agent and is already spoken for. So is Carey.
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Read some of the older posts and not just your own... Peterman isn't a free agent and is already spoken for. So is Carey.
Unless curling geek did not update the info, there's no mention of team Carey until she notified TODAY. What makes you think Peterman is already on another team? Care to share?
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Hard to tell speculative from fact, but can you imagine Chelsea and Rachel teaming up? Uhmm no, but why can't we see it? Funny to imagine it but, why is that?
Never happen. Both have been skips for 20 years and both have skip egos. Neither will step back. Ever.
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Unless curling geek did not update the info, there's no mention of team Carey until she notified TODAY. What makes you think Peterman is already on another team? Care to share?
Heard Jill is semi-retiring and Peterman heading for MB... Carey getting Sweeting front end and Kleibrink third Wilkes.
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Heard Jill is semi-retiring and Peterman heading for MB... Carey getting Sweeting front end and Kleibrink third Wilkes.
Don't have a line on Wilkes - but Dana & Rachel are gonna be very hard markers on their new skip (if indeed Chelsea is on board)
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If Jones can pull the ultimate heist off - and bring Peterman into Manitoba, replacing "semi-retired" Jill that would be a great coup.
Jill is still an elite 2nd - the best in Canada by far; perhaps Swedish Agnes has now surpassed her.
Peterman is a powerful curler - obviously not as strong on brush as Officer or Courtney (who is?) but a wonderful nuanced curler who can make almost any shot. Might enable Jones to tie up ends earlier with that kind of shot-making ability.
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We all know how 'rigorous the enforcement process is' - it is virtually non-existent. As long as the player lives somewhere on this planet, it's fine.
It's a shame that Curling Canada refuse to enforce their own rule... actually it's more of a farce.
It really only affects the Brier and Scotties directly (and the respective paths to them, that being the provincial playdowns) - but the fact is that teams are formed specifically to compete in the Brier and Scotties, so it's quite important in the actual forming of the team.
It's not like a team will play with 4 players from 4 different provinces for 7 months (when residency doesn't matter to play tournaments/bonspiels), and then form a team made up only of players from their own province for the month of the Scotties/Brier. No - it's a year-long commitment - at least - and so Curling Canada should enforce their own rule.
The tradition of pitting players from the provinces/territories against each other in the National Championships goes back many years. A team from Saskatchewan should be a team from Saskatchewan, period - no 'imports', and no overlooking their own residency rules by Curling Canada...
Much as I agree with Nose, the Genie is out of the bottle and I'll win the Lotto Max before the CCA takes back the 'one import' rule.
There is, however, a deterrent available: make any team using an out-of-province curler pay a higher entry fee for playdowns. And I'm not suggesting a small amount. I'm talking a $4000.00 entry fee. Extra money would go to the local governing body's Jr programs.
Plus any team caught lying about a players true residency would have to pay retroactively and all team members would face a competition ban of two years. And yes, you would have the right to challenge a player on their status if you thought something was dodgy, and that player would be required to provide multiple pieces of hard evidence to prove their status.
Sure, some can afford it and will pay. But at least the extra money can be put to good use and possibly some others will choose a talented local player rather than an import.
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Originally posted by jamcan make any team using an out-of-province curler pay a higher entry fee for playdowns. And I'm not suggesting a small amount. I'm talking a $4000.00 entry fee. Extra money would go to the local governing body's Jr programs.
good idea
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Make it 25000
There have been so many abusers over the years it's not funny. Biggest is Johnny Mo in BC for years well before the 1 import. These teams have the BIG sponsors so 4k is a drop in the bucket. Make it hurt if they cheat. Fine them. Shame them . All this talk lately about sportsmanship and integrity of the game....what a joke. It's easy to enforce. Where do they declare their taxes. You can have a fake address and fake part tine job but what province are your taxes declared for your real job. EG fire fighter in Canmore AB not fishing guide for one weekend in BC. Again that only works if you work, If you're a professional curler for hire it's a bit harder Same goes for Homan and Courtney in AB curling for Ontario. Courtney "moved" for the first year but they both RESIDE in AB now. Somebody at Curling Canada grow a backbone and enforce what you've legislated instead of turning the blind eye.
Again sorry for the rant of day.
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Back to the main subject of this thread...
Team Flaxey has announced they're splitting up.
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Since Peterman and Gallant are an item - wouldn't it be interesting if Newfoundland Curling Assoc. brought in Peterman to help build its dwindling women's program?
Perhaps supply her with the best two locals (one of the strong sisters, the young lady who had a nice early run this year) and bring in another professional womens curler without a team (ie. Laura Crocker, Brianne Knapp, etc.) to charge the program.
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there have been teams splitting up i just didn't see coming. carey,einarson. fleury. and teams that i kind of predicted or was fairly certain would like flaxey and sweeting. the news has been almost completely about women's teams though. nothing from the mens' teams
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Make it 25000
There have been so many abusers over the years it's not funny. Biggest is Johnny Mo in BC for years well before the 1 import. These teams have the BIG sponsors so 4k is a drop in the bucket. Make it hurt if they cheat. Fine them. Shame them . All this talk lately about sportsmanship and integrity of the game....what a joke. It's easy to enforce. Where do they declare their taxes. You can have a fake address and fake part tine job but what province are your taxes declared for your real job. EG fire fighter in Canmore AB not fishing guide for one weekend in BC. Again that only works if you work, If you're a professional curler for hire it's a bit harder Same goes for Homan and Courtney in AB curling for Ontario. Courtney "moved" for the first year but they both RESIDE in AB now. Somebody at Curling Canada grow a backbone and enforce what you've legislated instead of turning the blind eye.
Again sorry for the rant of day.
you are fully justified in your opinion. and 100% correct. it's time the CCA stopped being so gutless and enforced some of their own rules. if you aren't going to enforce them then why have them. why have any at all.
the CCA is probably one of the worst and one of the most spineless governing bodies in sport. they simply refuse to enforce any rules
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there have been teams splitting up i just didn't see coming. carey,einarson. fleury. and teams that i kind of predicted or was fairly certain would like flaxey and sweeting. the news has been almost completely about women's teams though. nothing from the mens' teams
I agree, some of these have been pretty surprising...and it's still not over yet...well, as in, there are still a few that haven't said anything yet one way or the other.
For the men, I'm sure as soon as the Brier is over it's going to kick into high gear.
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