Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Originally posted by Manitoba Legend
How many sheets of curling will be lost in the closure?
How many members registered during last few seasons?
Did the club have any ancillary revenues other than curling? (ie. bar, concessions, non-seasonal rentals, etc.)
Is the land (and building(s) on which the club is built owned by a board, an individual, a conglomerate or other?
What is the potential yield from the sale of the land (market value)?
Is the area where this club exists suitable for commercial, residential or perhaps mixed-use development?
Do the current members have any financial stake in the land & building (club assets, too)?
How will the money garnered by the sale of the property be divvied up after all debts & obligations are paid?
It's a golf and country club in Toronto's west end. The golfers have been trying to boot the curlers out for years.
There was a vote before last season to close curling which failed by literally a couple votes.
The board's response was to up the number of votes that golf members had, along with slapping a new $1,200 fee onto new members that wanted to join the curling section. I doubt they saw a single new member last year as a result.
So, basically the same story as the now closed Weston G&CC and Scarboro G&CC. The golfers wanted the curlers out, and they got their way.
Luckily all of the standalone clubs in Toronto are very healthy, in fact there's easily enough demand to build another club or two if the money could be found.
I'm the Senior Ice Manager at the Leaside Curling Club, we're located pretty close to midtown Toronto, we crossed 1,100 members last year, and were absolutely packed with rentals. Virtually all of the other stand-alone clubs are either full or close to it as well.
There's two golf and country clubs left in Toronto (Bayview and Donalda), and they are generally pretty supportive of their curling sections, so I don't see a problem there in the short term.
There's a couple other golf clubs not far from the city which have had some rumours swirling around for a few years as well though. So, it's not impossible we'll see one or two more go in the next 10 years, but with any luck we'll start to see some new clubs start popping up again.
The closures aren't due to lack of interest in curling, they're mainly due to golf club politics.
"Ladies and gentlemen, take my advice, pull down your pants and slide on the ice"
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