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watcher2
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quote:
Originally posted by dugless_zone 13
Comparing the NHL to Curling is silly. They are two completely different entities that are poles apart.


Costs are costs and expenses are expenses...reality=reality. This just proves my point that most curlers have no concept of the real costs of sport.

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Three
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Awesome. Although I think all your ideas are wrong I completely support your right to push this agenda forward watcher2.

This is not sarcasm.

I suggest, first you need to get your idea out on social media. Start a Facebook group and twitter account...I'm guessing the decision makers you are targeting don't use Snap chat or Instagram much yet.
You will need to find some support here to get your idea off the ground. Target up and coming teams in Canada and see if they will publicly support your idea.

Next write a letter to Curling Canada or better yet tweet your idea to the CEO. She is easily found on Twitter I think. Then contact Sportsnet with your idea and see if they will get on board...perhaps the majority of us on the curling zone forum don't represent the majority of Canadians. Who knows, maybe Sportsnet would back you....Canadian teams might be better for ratings. Try have them do a study or better yet find the ratings for all grand slam games over the past five years and do the study yourself. Perhaps the mined data will support your view.

Also, come up with a catchy name for your movement. "Make Canadian Curling Great Again" is probably not the way to go but I leave that too you.

The great thing is that if you truly believe in an idea it is easy to find some people to help you in your quest. Posting an idea in a forum is a good start but you have to take the next step. Go for it! Be a change agent, a disruptor!

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The left the gates open to the Cuckoo's Nest.

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If Canada falls out of the metals, what would they be? Noble gases?

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If Canada falls out of the metals, what would they be? Noble gases?


Now that's funny. Metals, medals, meddles.....

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Oh. I'm sorry. Did i drift off?

Didnt realize this stupid thread was still droning on...nice job Watcher2. Gerry will love the extra post counts.

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Actually Three…..your entirely wrong. Getting to the masses is a waste of time. In reality they don’t matter much. CCA, even less.

Most of the funding for Curling (including CCA) comes from Government grants, Sports Ministry, Health Ministry, etc.
All one has to do is convenience a few government people that there is a possibility that their funding could be linked to a loss for Canada. Even the perception is all that matters. Politicians hate bad press or even the possibility of bad press. They can put their money in places where only good things can happen and it’s a lot safer. Even reading a form posting like this would make them nervous!

Politicians hate, even the wiff of bad press or being associated with losers, so what if the following happened?

Let’s say Edin wins gold at the next Olympics or worst, Canada falls out of the metals altogether. What do you think would happen to the funding to curling? If the women’s loss at the Worlds last year resulted in a reduction of funding of $500K like CCA claimed, what do you think a loss at Olympic level would result in? To be fair it could go two ways, a major increase in funding to get back to the podium which would require major smart lobbying by CCA along with influence from outside sources and we all know CCA is not smart, or a more likely result, a shift in funding to where winning is more likely.

Here’s another rat in the mix. If the NHL doesn’t participate in the Olympics,for Canada to continue to win in hockey, the hockey programs will need a ton of money. So fund hockey or curling…which way do you think that will go? Remember, there is only so much money in the pot to go around.

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Three
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Originally posted by watcher2
Actually Three…..your entirely wrong. Getting to the masses is a waste of time. In reality they don’t matter much. CCA, even less.

Most of the funding for Curling (including CCA) comes from Government grants, Sports Ministry, Health Ministry, etc.
All one has to do is convenience a few government people that there is a possibility that their funding could be linked to a loss for Canada. Even the perception is all that matters. Politicians hate bad press or even the possibility of bad press. They can put their money in places where only good things can happen and it’s a lot safer. Even reading a form posting like this would make them nervous!

Politicians hate, even the wiff of bad press or being associated with losers, so what if the following happened?

Let’s say Edin wins gold at the next Olympics or worst, Canada falls out of the metals altogether. What do you think would happen to the funding to curling? If the women’s loss at the Worlds last year resulted in a reduction of funding of $500K like CCA claimed, what do you think a loss at Olympic level would result in? To be fair it could go two ways, a major increase in funding to get back to the podium which would require major smart lobbying by CCA along with influence from outside sources and we all know CCA is not smart, or a more likely result, a shift in funding to where winning is more likely.

Here’s another rat in the mix. If the NHL doesn’t participate in the Olympics,for Canada to continue to win in hockey, the hockey programs will need a ton of money. So fund hockey or curling…which way do you think that will go? Remember, there is only so much money in the pot to go around.



Sorry you are right. I did not understand anything and was entirely wrong. I was just hoping to inspire you on your crusade. Go for it ! Chase the dream! Make it happen! Contact those few key government people and show them this forum. Prove all us nay-sayers that you were on the right track all along. Sorry to have troubled you. I look forward to all your future posts and will try learn from you for sure! Have a super fantastic day!

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Stoner
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Originally posted by watcher2
Actually Three…..your entirely wrong. Getting to the masses is a waste of time. In reality they don’t matter much. CCA, even less.

Most of the funding for Curling (including CCA) comes from Government grants, Sports Ministry, Health Ministry, etc.
All one has to do is convenience a few government people that there is a possibility that their funding could be linked to a loss for Canada. Even the perception is all that matters. Politicians hate bad press or even the possibility of bad press. They can put their money in places where only good things can happen and it’s a lot safer. Even reading a form posting like this would make them nervous!

Politicians hate, even the wiff of bad press or being associated with losers, so what if the following happened?

Let’s say Edin wins gold at the next Olympics or worst, Canada falls out of the metals altogether. What do you think would happen to the funding to curling? If the women’s loss at the Worlds last year resulted in a reduction of funding of $500K like CCA claimed, what do you think a loss at Olympic level would result in? To be fair it could go two ways, a major increase in funding to get back to the podium which would require major smart lobbying by CCA along with influence from outside sources and we all know CCA is not smart, or a more likely result, a shift in funding to where winning is more likely.

Here’s another rat in the mix. If the NHL doesn’t participate in the Olympics,for Canada to continue to win in hockey, the hockey programs will need a ton of money. So fund hockey or curling…which way do you think that will go? Remember, there is only so much money in the pot to go around.



So nice to see this post is so on the mark, I'm glad we are so clear now on what is really going on out there, that we were all clueless about this, what a great post.

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