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On The Nose
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i know full well the role vic is there to play. howqever for the last couple of years he's developed the habit of saying"no offense" or "no disrespect intended" and then proceeds to say something that is indeed offensive or disrespectful. if he thinks it'll come off that way then dont ask or dont make the damn comment

Or he could just say what he has to say without prefacing it with "No offence", or "no disrespect intended".
We need far less 'political correctness' and artificial politeness, not more.
People should say what they honestly think and feel, and allow others to perceive them as as a genius or as a jerk.

That said, I have no major problem with Vic.

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Or he could just say what he has to say without prefacing it with "No offence", or "no disrespect intended".
We need far less 'political correctness' and artificial politeness, not more.
People should say what they honestly think and feel, and allow others to perceive them as as a genius or as a jerk.

That said, I have no major problem with Vic.




Normally ID agree but he is a commentator sonhe does need to be respectful and watch what he says

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TSN Sports is still nursing Cheryl Bernard thru her early stages of sports-casting. Bernard is a nice lady, has a rather pleasant personality but keep in mind her sports announcing experience is extremely limited.

She was an above average alberta curler who never really distinguished herself at the STOH level - or even the cash spiel level. . . . . her one claim to fame was securing an Olympic berth - in a field where Jennifer Jones crashed out and Rachel Homan wasn't old enough to go.

Yes, she went on a wildly solid run at the Vancouver Olympics but her lack of power and control as a 4th shooter came home to roost - unfortunately when she ran out of gas at the worst time possible - last couple ends vs. Annette Norberg.

As far as the announcing is concerned - its too apparent that Cheryl is waiting for cues from either Vic or Russ - cues that indicate to her whether she's on the right or wrong track. In other words she's too often waiting verification - and not verbalizing her initial thoughts about whats going on below her.

When Linda Moore first surfaced on TSN Curling she was thought to be WAY TOO SHY & FAR TOO WITHDRAWN to be an effective 3rd announcer. But she learned quickly & while she never surrendered to being boisterous or obnoxiously loud - her words became her flames & she developed into a gifted broadcaster. Off the hop - Cheryl has a bit more natural personality - unfortunately she falls short in the curling gravitas dept.

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The best sportscasters all have the same basic skills

highlighted by a pleasant demeanor, strong communication

skills, the ability to speak clearly and expressively of

the sport or sports they are broadcasting and most importantly

a distinctive voice. It is not necessary at all that they

participated in that sport at a high level. Some of the all-

time best, e.g. Al Michaels, Vince Scully, Chris Schnekel,

Bob Costas etc. were never among the best in the sports they

covered. Costas was terrible at golf, football (never played)

boxing (never) horse racing (nope) but that mattered not.

With respect to curling, I prefer Howard primarily because

of his knowledge of the game and his distinctive, obviously

authoritative voice. I think it is noteworthy that this was

not something he developed over time; it was obvious the

very fisrt day he joined the TSN team.

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Originally posted by Deliverer
The best sportscasters all have the same basic skills

highlighted by a pleasant demeanor, strong communication

skills, the ability to speak clearly and expressively of

the sport or sports they are broadcasting and most importantly

a distinctive voice. It is not necessary at all that they

participated in that sport at a high level. Some of the all-

time best, e.g. Al Michaels, Vince Scully, Chris Schnekel,

Bob Costas etc. were never among the best in the sports they

covered. Costas was terrible at golf, football (never played)

boxing (never) horse racing (nope) but that mattered not.

With respect to curling, I prefer Howard primarily because

of his knowledge of the game and his distinctive, obviously

authoritative voice. I think it is noteworthy that this was

not something he developed over time; it was obvious the

very fisrt day he joined the TSN team.



I quite agree Bob Costas was atrocious in golf coverage - but incredibly versatile at everything else.
The guy who currently does lots of golf and football might be the best of the lot.
Scully was easily the best baseball broadcaster EVER - but someone time forgot might have been 2nd - DAVE VAN HORNE...

Wonder who the best American broadcaster would be at curling???
My guess - Al Michaels! He did that Russia/USA gold medal game so well back in 1980.
Costas on Curling would be painful - more excruciating than even Resby Coutts!

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I think TSN, Sportsnet, and the occasional CBC for the most part do well with the commentary. I do have my favourites and those that make me cringe. My suggestion would be a lot less yak and a lot more listen. Instead of having a perceived need of filling the air with constant babble, let's just listen to the players and the sound of the rock sliding down the ice. Say what you have to say after the shot. Shut up while it's in play. Then count 'em up.

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