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So, this world berth challenge is next weekend. Have the US announced who will represent them? I am assuming one of the high performance squads.

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When the original announcement was about the challenge, it said it would be an HP team selected by the HP staff. I have not seen anything about which team.

Edited to add: I think team Brown is heading to Moscow the same weekend the challenge is occurring so that leaves team McCormick as the choice.

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Haven't seen anything official, but a tweet from Plys about playing Brazil tells us it will be McCormick.

My question is will they award OOM points for this in the tight race for the top of the standings?

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Will there be any streaming of the USA-BRAZIL games?

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So, this world berth challenge is next weekend. Have the US announced who will represent them? I am assuming one of the high performance squads.

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If Mello draws for a point does everybody yell 'GOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL!" ?

...just wondering...

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Re: Re: USA-Brazil challenge teams?

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Team USA

Skip: Heath McCormick
Vice: Chris Plys
Second: Joe Polo
Lead: Ryan Brunt
Alternate: Colin Hufman

Team Brazil

Skip: Marcelo Mello
Vice: Scott McMullan
Second: Cesar Santos
Lead: Filipe Nunes
Alternate: Raphael Monticello

http://fullgranitejacket.tumblr.com...curling-preview

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Another article on this event and the 'boys from brazil'
http://www.winnipegsun.com/2015/01/...hips-in-curling
(ahem, 'boys from canada')

On a related note....I think the WCF has some 'splaining to do on this graphic crafted for the event....geez, really?!
http://www.worldcurling.org/america...e-begins-friday

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Any chance this is webstreamed?

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Any chance this is webstreamed?

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Nah,

Tiger's got a better shot...assuming he hasn't teed off yet...

After all, a 58 is *possible*, which would get him under the number.

On the other hand, getting webcasting of what should be a squash match out of the WCF (they own the rights, not the USCA, as this is World Playdows) is not even remotely possible.

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Might want to check the scoreboard. Currently DFL.

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Well, I did say "assuming he hasn't teed off yet"

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Perhaps instead of having "Americas" playdowns, maybe it is time for the WCF to have a B division at the worlds. This will open up the door for more Countries and perhaps encourage the growth of curling in Canada & The USA as all of those with Caribbean, South American, Central American citizenship take up the sport along with the African & Asian countries.

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Sorry but we simply cannot, CurlerBroad. Each and every previous plan to allow access for more countries to Worlds have all included the probability that the USA would end up missing some Worlds...and then missing some valuable points towards Olympic qualification.

This must be avoided at all costs. Curling needs the USA to be at Worlds and (especially) at the Olympics. As horrid and arrogant and conceited as this may sound: International sport has trouble becoming important if it is not important in the USA...with the exception of soccer. If curling wants to rise to the level that we all hope, the USA cannot miss out on Worlds nor any Olympics.

The number of sheets used (and the number of draws per day) can play an important (and maybe overlooked) part in the math when determining who gets to Worlds and the Olympics. Putting in just 4 sheets with wide carpeted runways seems silly...even if TV likes them for some camera placements. With 5 sheets and 6 days, Worlds can easily expand to 20 teams...64 if we'd consider a triple knockout. Freezing the number at the current low for Olympic teams is just silly. There are lots of days and going to 5 sheets should be easy as pie.

The slippery slope to avoid is chasing the uncatchable goal of "Fairness". Any claim of Fairness falls short unless you have Worlds and Olympics with a dozen Canadian teams with a small handful of others. Achieving that narrow field for Fairness would be a Pyrrhic Victory (that is; a victory that costs you so much and so badly you wished that you had never gone that route).

Just some thoughts. I'm not opposed to opening access. I just fear going down a road that may be filled with unintended consequences of significant proportions.

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Oh sorry Tuck, what I meant was instead of having the USA (or Canada - that's a possiblity) play some South American team and risk not going to the worlds if they don't do well at the 3 out 5 match, have a B championship for all of these countries.

I never said exclude the USA...

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The problems that I'm seeing with a "B" Division is that qualifications for the Worlds are already based on regional playoffs. The European Championship (sponsored by Gruyere Cheese) already has an "A", "B" & "C" division. The Pacific/Asian Championships were held a few weeks ago. China and Japan advanced (although the Koreans could make a solid point for inclusion).

Australia and New Zealand are included as the "Pacific" part-this year Kazakhstan made its Asian debut (it was a "learning" experience).

The problem with the Kiwis & Roos of course is the fact that their seasons are opposite to the rest of the curling world and I don't think that their associations have the money to send their best young rinks to Canada. If you were going to broaden the scope of the World Championships, I would think that one of those rinks would be included-or instead of putting them in with the Asian rinks, have a "Southern Hemisphere" Championship" with Brazil-most of Brazil lies south of the Equator.

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Well, I did say "assuming he hasn't teed off yet"

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The problem with any plan advanced so far (some looking much like where CurlerBroad is heading) is that it must come at the expense of the current field.

Phrased another way: If we start up a B championship, the winner will expect to advance to Worlds. That spot must come from an existing spot. I don't see Europe giving up any of its spots easily. Nor do I see the Pacific/Asia area giving up a spot. Where does the spot come from?

So any talk about adjusting Worlds without the first sentence being "Add more teams" is met quickly by me with fear and loathing.

My fear and loathing are not based solely in selfish patriotism. Some of it comes from a genuine conviction that Advancement of Curling Worldwide has a huge interest in Advancement of Curling in the USA.

Forgive my fear. Ignore my loathing. Try to understand, however, my quickness to confront.

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The problem with any plan advanced so far (some looking much like where CurlerBroad is heading) is that it must come at the expense of the current field.

Phrased another way: If we start up a B championship, the winner will expect to advance to Worlds. That spot must come from an existing spot. I don't see Europe giving up any of its spots easily. Nor do I see the Pacific/Asia area giving up a spot. Where does the spot come from?

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Yeah, I hear that any nation outside of the Top 6 at Junior Worlds this year will have to go through some Qualifier next year. Czechoslovakia of someplace like that.

Expanding teams at World Juniors is a more difficult proposition as long as we keep Boys and Girls together at the same venue and at the same time.

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Well that was fun

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Looks like a 3-0 sweep puts the US where pretty much everyone knew they'd be.

It's not *official* yet (the 3rd game is still in progress), but...it would be a comeback on the order of Red Sox over Yankees in 2004 for Brazil to come back at this point.

Only it'd be more like Red Sox over the Yankees without Ortiz, and playing 7 guys on the field...

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